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8 month old female pup difficult to sociaize

gilles

Well-Known Member
a Caucasian shepherd and a central asian shepherd (CO and CAO)are both very very independent and stubborn breeds..they are also very ancient breeds (almost pure breeds) dating several thousands of years back and are mainly bred or raised to take their own decisions when guarding and attacking are required. they are used to guard livestock and attack wild animals like wolves ....this instinct is engraved in them , they coexist with people and livestock but do not take orders , they take their own decisions ...
today training such dogs is limited to basic obedience, but it has to be done with extreme firmness and no compromise, however you must avoid using force or violence, you cannot give them the chance to show you that they are stronger than you. they will always try to test their master. aggressive behavior is due mainly because the dog does not have a firm master, the dog feels that he can take decisions when he sees that his master is not strong enough to be the leader. the solution starts with a good trainer that can help you retrain for basic obedience and also train you to regain the dogs confidence and your role as the ultimate master.
8 months old is not too late and it is the most difficult stage when it comes to aggression with these dogs.
you should not allow the dog also to invade your space...there should be a space for the dog only ...the dog is not allowed in your space and should not rule the house. no couches or beds or roaming and sleeping randomly in the house.
3 months of rigorous and firm training you will have a different dog i promise you.
when you meet another dog on the street you should instantly give a command to stay, you should not allow your dog any time to think and make decisions.
 

gilles

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after you regain full leadership, socializing becomes much easier , and if done gradually will be very successful. remember your baby is probably the fiercest dog breed there is and must be treated firmly without violence. 8 months is a crucial period i have been there ,
 

gilles

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and i forgot... when you feel its time to meet other dogs, try to make her meet a dog that will not cause any threat and will not try to confront her ,,... a playful dog who will not challenge her...and a dog of the same age
 

zstevens

Well-Known Member
The dog is a guard dog first and foremost the modern lines are more guard dog vs livestock guardians from what I understand. I"m no expert on Caucasian Shepherds obviously but I can tell you this isn't your average dog. As far as agression goes yes I would say my dog is very aggressive towards other dogs and to a lesser extent people.

I have been taking her out everyday/every other day for a few months, and prior to that less so but still taking her out to the park and in the car. She hates surprises for example an opening door someone approaching from behind. And if she sees another dog even across the street she goes nuts. She took a nip at a Great Pyrnees I was trying to introduce her to. After that I decided no more interaction with other dogs it's not safe and very stressful.

Thanks Gilles for all the advise I will take it into consideration.
 

Hector

Well-Known Member
If you have the right technique or if someone can show you how to use the slip leash or even prong collar, you can make it work. This video is probably one of the best ones I've seen working with a big aggressive dog that demonstrates similar problems you have.

Does anyone know what language ?

[video=youtube;otDyrkkwqho]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otDyrkkwqho[/video]

If you haven't already started, it's never too late to work on basics and foundation skills (kennel, waiting at doors, impulse control, etc). It can be done.

[video=youtube;NdiL691xVD8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdiL691xVD8[/video]
 

zstevens

Well-Known Member
If you have the right technique or if someone can show you how to use the slip leash or even prong collar, you can make it work. This video is probably one of the best ones I've seen working with a big aggressive dog that demonstrates similar problems you have.

Does anyone know what language ?

[video=youtube;otDyrkkwqho]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otDyrkkwqho[/video]

If you haven't already started, it's never too late to work on basics and foundation skills (kennel, waiting at doors, impulse control, etc). It can be done.

[video=youtube;NdiL691xVD8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdiL691xVD8[/video]

I will try the old neck chop maybe that will straighten her out. J/K thanks for the video interesting technique.
 

gilles

Well-Known Member
CO and CAO tend to be explosive in their behavior. any odd noise or startling noise will switch them on instantly to an aggressive mode. this is normal. but you have to work on obedience and control. uncalled aggressive behavior should not be allowed because it can escalate and become worst and dangerous to you and to others. a 2 years caucasian is a totally different story than an 8 months caucasian. a prong was very helpful to me.
i could not clean volka's ears at 6 months old without being bit...6 months later i could take his bone out of his mouth no problem... but at 6 months to a year i had a real problem and was facing the sad truth that i might have to send him away. you still have time but you have to act quickly.
i would say also avoid any situation where she can get aggressive for now and concentrate on obedience and control. no matter how many times you will introduce her to other dogs she will not be desensitized. forget parks for a while.