Bella maybe pregnant

Discussion in 'General Mastiff Discussion' started by Sheila Braund, Mar 9, 2019.

  1. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    well I bred Bella....maybe.....the owner of the male said he seen them lock....but if they did it was a fast one..... oh well if they did I'm hoping this will be a small litter....for her first..
    Of course she's been even more sucky.... not sure if it's because she pregnant and is not feeling like herself or if it's because I just got back home from a conference in Mexico.....was so beautiful and warm.
  2. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    She’s still in denial and believes she can fit under my desk.... this is her after I told her she didn’t fit any more!

    Oh I can see it in her eyes telling me... want ya bet! lol
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  3. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    This is Bella’s routine when she’s at home after the office..... my lap dog.... yep that me ... under the mastiff.

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  4. BlackShadowCaneCorso

    BlackShadowCaneCorso Super Moderator Staff Member

    It doesn't take long for a breeding to happen. I am not on the board often these day so might have missed it but hope both parents are fully health tested. I am not familiar with your standard so will assume you know if the parents conform to that aspect of things.
  5. marke

    marke Well-Known Member

    hope all works out well for you and bella ……. too small a litter can cause problems …….. too big a litter can also ………..
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  6. Pastor Dave

    Pastor Dave Well-Known Member

    Blessings to you and your Bella !!!
  7. Zeela

    Zeela Well-Known Member

    Very exciting...I am looking forward to hearing what's going on....I am sure Bella will be just fine. It's a natural thing, isn't it?
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  8. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    No puppies, false alarm..... oh well perhaps Bella isn't meant to have babies. It's all good either way in my books. We'll try again next heat.... this time we will do it my way.... take Bella to Finn. Fin is such a gentleman I believe he wouldn't mount her if she showed any resistance . It maybe a little different on his turf. If not then I will get my girl fixed. I don't want to take the chance of her breed with the coyote pack out back.
  9. Bailey's Mom

    Bailey's Mom Super Moderator Staff Member

    I'm sorry...puppies with a loving dog mom is the most heartwarming sight. But, maybe the next time will take, especially if you take her to his turf where she wouldn't be as resistant to his attentions. But, if it doesn't work out, you still have Bella and all the love she gives to you.

    I know how crushing it can feel...we considered every heat about allowing Bailey to have a family, but, fate interjected and produced a tumor-like growth under one of her nipples and it was the end of speculation. She had to be spayed to protect her from the surging hormones that would have accelerated any possible cancer. She would have made a great mom, but, it wasn't to be. And, since her life arose out of a BYB, it would have been not in the breed's best interest to produce more BYB Mastiffs. We had no medical information on the sire, and only modest information on the mother. Both were papered, but, that doesn't mean good genetics or good offspring for us.
    So...I was a puppy-less Grand Ma, but my daughter's pups filled my Grand Ma heart and I am content.

    Of course....If Finn and Bella do produce 10-12-15 puppies!!!, we will want copious, round-the-clock pictures and updates on the squirming pile of puppy love! And, since you are within driving distance of me! I will be visiting and snuggling and hugging and loving the entire brood! And if you didn't know we were all puppy mad here at the Forum, now you know.

    When D.MikeM's two dogs had their puppies WE (all the Forum Members) went WILD! It was the first thing I did every morning, log on and soak in the puppy power, and every night the same thing...get home and Bang, logging on and reveling in the cuteness overload. Ahh....Puppies.... The puppy days are the sweetest days of all!
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  10. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    Well of course I would be sharing mega pictures !
    And of course Bailey's mom you're welcome to stop in for snuggles!
    Once Bella will allow it of course. I was a bit disappointed for sure at first...but I also do believe things happen for a reason....

    So if she does have a brood of pups YAY!
    And if she doesn't..... then there's a reason..... I wouldn't love her any less...

    Oh and right off topic here...Wow I have a coyote party going on in my back yard tonight..... their getting way to close again.... I've noticed with Uncle Hogan not around they have been getting braver..... I'm thinking it's coming time to clean the gun and go pick off some of the older ones.....our neighbourhood has young children..... I really don't like seeing their tracks coming up to my back door.

    Well that's it for me tonight I'm off to bed..... just maybe I'll actually sleep
  11. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    Bella has been fully checked... by vey and blood line.... Finn has uncle and auntie who are vets that tell me he is an excellent specimen.
    So here's to fingers crossed that the next time will catch
  12. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    Sheila, please don't be offended. A vet check is not the same as having the recommended health tests done. Perhaps you did have them done? You have time again now. Please, if you only had a vet check, consider having the other tests run. You're going to be responsible forever for what she brings into the world. Make sure to do it the right way. I've had my heart broken to often to not push a bit on this. The male should also have the same tests done.

    Of utmost importance would be:
    • Full eye exam. Not from your vet. It's CERF or OFA, I believe
    • Degenerative Myelopathy (DM)
    • Cystinuria
    • Hips and elbows (graded by OFA, not your vet)
    • Heart testing. I'd start with a Holter and go from there.
    I know I'm being pushy. But it's for your puppy parents. It's the right thing to do. I know Boxers forward and backward, so I may have missed something with the tests for a Mastiff. But the above is the minimum. We've had members with dogs with PRA and Cystinuria. And DM for a dog the size of a mastiff is usually a death sentence because it's just not possible for most people to carry and move them. If I've misunderstood and you have had the tests done, then I'm sorry. I'm very passionate about my breeds.
  13. marke

    marke Well-Known Member

    I agree with boxer girl , to produce and raise an outwardly healthy appearing pup they tell you at 12 weeks will most likely not live past two is a pretty sad day ..... it can happen no matter what you do , but I have to imagine it'd be worse knowing you did nothing to possibly prevent it …… two years goes fast , to watch the suffering as the end approaches is painful ……...

    personally i'd never breed a dog or breed to a dog that hasn't passed a doppler echo , hip and elbow x-rays …………….

    as far as a vet reading them , I don't believe I'd have a vet test them that couldn't read the results ……….
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  14. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    Very true, I wouldn't want to breed and the liter end up having genetic health issues.....
    that being said I know Bellas blood line.... the sire also has been checked....has sired others with no issues.....
    My dream is to breed Mastiff back to Mastiff what I mean by that the Mastiffs here around Ontario seen small.
    I would like to bring back the large Mastiffs here..... but who knows I may get threw the first liter and find it too much for we will see
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  15. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    No you're not being pushy at all..... your just trying to education me and other on being responsible

    For DM testing
    Ok both Bellas parents have been tested for DM they both came back normal
    if the parents have been tested and have “normal” results, it's not unnecessary to test their offspring

    That being said I am looking into genetic testing PRA
    , Cystinuria, degenerate eye disease, there's 2 or 3 they test for Mastiffs.
    I should have known my sister would have her pups tested for DM, her king shepherd had was very sad and heart braking to see him like that. His back end finally went and my sister had to let him go.

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