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Borealis Cane Corso

bmc

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I also have nothing but good things to say about my dealings and dog from Olga. She has been very supportive for over a year, some are stating their opinions based on pictures. If you never visited, seen the dogs or interacted with them just doesn't seem fair, you must just be a expert. My dog from Olga was my first Corso and I made sure I had plenty of time to insure I ended up with a properly trained and socialized dog. Someone that has had rescues and then has issues with another dog without giving info on the problem dog seems like they don't know how to train/manage a dog. Apparently someone else trained those rescues!

I don't doubt that you had a better experience than others here if you got the dog as a puppy and the premium price you paid for the advice and care. I wish you nothing but good luck with your dog.

My reason for posting my experience and evidence is for anyone who wants to do their due diligence if they are planning to buy or "adopt" from her in the future.
 

joeyboy22999

New Member
100% satisfied. 4 years ago we bought a blue brindle male cane corso. Being that our corso was not going to be shown we elected to keep his ears and tail. Over all we are super satisfied with him. He is 178lbs and full of energy. He is about 33inches to the top of his head. Not only is he a very gentle giant but he has been trained as a license guard dog. He knows commands both in german and english. Besides being a fierce protector he is a pet pal. I bring him to autistic children centers so they can play with him. He lays down and takes as many hands as they have. He is so perfect that all my other dogs in my past can't compare. My cane corso from Borealis Cane Corso has been a blessing. He has had not a single health problem. I AM 100% SATISFIED WITH MY PUPPY. I WOULD BUY AGAIN FROM Borealis Cane Corso. If anyone is in the Brooklyn Ny area let me know so we can have a play date. I love showing off my massive mastiff.

Joe
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
You have a corso that is 178lbs and how tall to the top of his shoulders as that would be really out of standard for the breed.

I am glad you have had a great experience with the breeder and wish both you and your pup a long and healthy life.
 

traedog

New Member
O
k I have a cane corso from Borealis and Its not good .My dog has developed wobblers disease .A genetic disease of the spine.We Informed Olga of the situation and she said she had a owner that statedthere dog had the disease, but they put it down . In all the information I have found that the breader should not bread a dog if it has wobblers. Now she informed us its caused by injury. Her research and something about dog breeders wanting longer necks not true. If you have a puppy by her research it.Especially about feeding a mastiff breed so you don't face this problem. Hes only 1 year old. So theres plenty of good breeders out there. 1800 dollars on a dog is a lot of money. I sugest you look else where I have information from Cornell University who exsamined him and one othe neurologist from Scranton Pa.
 

khplaw

Well-Known Member
I am curious if the dog from Borealis that you are talking about here was a rescue or if you purchased one after having dealt with rescues before, just want to be clear on how you got the dog that carries this kennel name.



I am glad that you have had a great experience with your breeder but you are not the only one to be allowed to post your experiences with a breeder, and the others that have dogs from them do not have a favorable experience. You don't get to diminish their experiences just because they were different that yours.

As for giving an opinion based on pictures or websites that is every member's here prerogative. There are more than a few on this page with a couple of years experience that are used to looking at sites and seeing things that would be flags to them. Someone asked about this breeder and those with experience gave their reasons why they would not select this kennel, even if it was just they don't like the appearance of these dogs. They are entitle to their opinions and those that have actual experiences with the breeder certainly have more than just a casual opinion based off pictures.

As with ANYTHING, you need to do your research. I get that when a scared pup was being presented, you undertook to help this pup, good and bad. That was the right thing to do, don't you agree? But along with taking that pup came multiple problems and plenty of compassionate hard work to "re-educate" this poor pup. I am sure you considered all that.

What I want to do NOW is ask what you did AFTER you took your pup to the vet for the well puppy check up. Did you get copies of your pups medical records documenting the condition of the dog? Did you BUY this pup with papers? Was there a puppy purchase contract stating a health guarantee for a specific period of time? How did you find this particular breeder? Did you research the bloodlines represented in this breeders kennel? How many times did you speak with this breeder on the telephone before deciding to drive 6 hours? Do you have an IPhone or computer to use in a video chat?

And after all that, if the dog doesn't turn out to be the dog you thought you were getting, figure it out. If I purchased a 4 month old cane corso pup, knowing it would top 100 pounds, I would make very sure that I know all about the dog, its parents, its blood lines and its temperament. I think that I might be tempted to contact other owners of her dogs if possible, talk to her veterinarian about health care. With the liability inherent in owning any large breed dog these days, I would then ask myself if I honestly packed the mental gear needed to properly train a dog like this.

And finally, if you found the conditions abhorrent, who did you report this kennel to? The ASPCA would likely be interested, the local Animal Control office, perhaps even the local police would come an take a look. But if you did nothing, you have simply left this breeder continue unhindered and unexposed to continue her questionable practices.

I hope that helps somehow. You cannot/should not rush headlong into a purchase of an animal without doing your proper research before hand. And if what you were told does not match what you yourself actually SEE, that should tell you something.
 

khplaw

Well-Known Member
O
k I have a cane corso from Borealis and Its not good .My dog has developed wobblers disease .A genetic disease of the spine.We Informed Olga of the situation and she said she had a owner that statedthere dog had the disease, but they put it down . In all the information I have found that the breader should not bread a dog if it has wobblers. Now she informed us its caused by injury. Her research and something about dog breeders wanting longer necks not true. If you have a puppy by her research it.Especially about feeding a mastiff breed so you don't face this problem. Hes only 1 year old. So theres plenty of good breeders out there. 1800 dollars on a dog is a lot of money. I sugest you look else where I have information from Cornell University who examined him and one othe neurologist from Scranton Pa.

My God this woman has to be stopped somehow from continuing to breed and sell dogs. I am so heartbroken for you.
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
What they say and show don't match. They state that they don't crop ears because natural are allowed in the ring but all of their dogs/bitches have cropped ears. Makes me wonder what else doesn't match.

She does not croppy puppy ears unless requested by the purchaser. Her personal dogs have cropped ears. Easily learned with the slightest bit of trying instead of jumping to conclusions.
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
I got a few months old dog from Borealis. There are problems. Not everything they said was correct. The biggest issue - apparently most of the dogs are in kennels outside. Housetraining a dog that has been left outside for most of its life is EXTREMELY hard to house train. So the statement that all dogs are raised in the house is simply not true. Really bad form by Borealis.

I can not recommend them.

All her puppies are raised in the house up to a certain age, that doesn't mean every dog she owns is in the house all the time. Also your statement is confusing did you get a puppy that was a couple months old or a full grown dog that had been outside its whole life? Two different worlds there. You do realize it's on you the owner to house break your dog, not the breeder right?
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
Do not recommend borealis i bought a 4month old male dog was skittish and obviously was never raise in a house olga is only about money this is y she has a litter every 3-4 months i do not recommend this breeder!!

It is very common especially with corsos for a puppy to be skiddish, they go through different terror phases where anything can scare them, and again were talking puppies here, confidence building is a vital part of training any puppy, did you expect to pick up a 4mnth old guard puppy?
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
I have several rescue dogs - but my female Cane Corso from Borealis has been a nightmare and financial drain. I have never had such problems like I have with her. I ended up at a Veterinarian behavioral specialist - $300- walking through the door. The dog was put on medication. She had been EXTREMELY destructive, and soiling in the bedroom, where she is during the day - I did not dare leave her in the house, as she would destroy and eliminate. The destruction - tearing things to shreds, apart, including biting holes in the walls and floor!!!!
The Veterinarian diagnosed severe anxiety. After a month on medication my female appeared to slowly get better. Still accidents in the bedroom, but the destruction stopped. She has been on meds for 4 months now. The past 2 weeks, still on medication, it seems to have picked up again. And this evening I come home and find that one of the dogs urinated in my bed. She is the only one who has ever done this before.
I am beside myself. I will drop off a urine sample with the Vet, but I suspect there is nothing wrong. I have run out of money and options. I will see if the Vet Behavioral specialist can do a phone consultation. I think there something very mentally wrong with this dog. And I think I will end up having to put her down.

Borealis Cane Corso and breeder Olga is not any better than a puppy mill. There something VERY wrong when people end up having similar negative experiences with their dogs from this breeder.

Where does personal responsibility come in? It is a well known problem with corsos esp young ones that they do not like being left alone and tend to act out and become very anxious. They will do what they can to let you know they are not happy and that usually means chewing and potty. Also how old was this dog, chewing walls was something both my corsos tried to do while teething and they stopped without a need for medication. I know you have already diagnosed the problem yourself as a mentally disturbed dog, but just as likely you gave a teething puppy an anxiety complex by not providing a comfortable and stimulating home. Maybe next time you should know more about the breed before you start, and your comment about putting the dog down leads me to believe your dog is not the one that should be put down.
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
BUYER BEWARE: Do NOT get a dog from Olga. WHAT breeder poses as a RESCUE to sell off pups she can't sell? I even have the quasi fake paperwork and emails from her and her pretense to act as a rescue! She works with one of the local animal shelter there to have someone post ads in petfinder as a rescue dog but the contact info goes to her. The rescue dog I was looking at was about 5 months, not spayed, ears cropped!

Anyhow I should have seen the red flags when i drove nearly 6 hours to get there and got lost and asked a few neighbours around the area if they knew her. They all gave me that bad feeling. Anyhow as I got there there were MULTIPLE dogs in outdoor kennels I would estimate that I counted about 10 that I could see in sight. The dog I was going to "adopt" was inside the house but as I questioned Olga, she indicated that she had only brought her in to clean her up for me. She was extremely skittish and fearful and basically shaking as though the world was the scariest thing she had ever experienced. Anyhow I couldn't leave her behind after seeing her like this, I knew she was going back outside if I didnt take her. She had cuts and scrapes all over her face, bite marks and etc and when asked about it, she indicated it from fighting with the other female in the kennel. I heard a few dogs inside the house too but they were behind locked doors. I paid 350 USD for her for the "adoption fee"

My corso is still with me today, shes the most fearful dog I have ever met. I have spent countless money on training her to walk on a lead and not to run away as she was fearful, even of her own shadow. Luckily I already had a male rescue corso who she relies on heavily and helps me to train her. Now after 3 years of constant training shes still skittish of her own shadow but definitely more trusting of humans.

Wow, so since you are throwing that kind of accusation out I'm assuming you know the full history of the dog you adopted. I mean you must be right, except why would Olga pay to crop a puppies ears when she does not crop ears without a request and payment, then adopt it out for less then it costs to crop? She's all about the money right? How old is the dog now, it does take time, but I personally don't believe there is such thing a a 5month old puppy that can't be rehabilitated and trained with the right knowledge and time, not every problem can be solved simply by throwing money at a trainer.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
I always find it interesting when someone out of the blue joins a forum, not to contribute as an active member but simply to respond to breeder alligations. Like I said before people are entitle to post their experiences regards if they are agreed upon by people or not. If the breeder wishes to come and refute that is her choice.

All her puppies are raised in the house up to a certain age, that doesn't mean every dog she owns is in the house all the time. Also your statement is confusing did you get a puppy that was a couple months old or a full grown dog that had been outside its whole life? Two different worlds there. You do realize it's on you the owner to house break your dog, not the breeder right?

I don't get how it is confusing, I don't think they said the dog was an adult, just that their dog they suspect had not been raised in the house due to the difficulty in house training the dog. Regardless of who's job it is, if the pup was still inside the house with the breeder it would have been started on house breaking as I doubt the breeder would have let the dog mess all around her house, but hey I could be wrong. I don't think the owner was trying to avoid doing the training for the house, simply pointing out that it was harder than it should have been with a dog that from their post I assume they had been told was kept inside.

It is very common especially with corsos for a puppy to be skiddish, they go through different terror phases where anything can scare them, and again were talking puppies here, confidence building is a vital part of training any puppy, did you expect to pick up a 4mnth old guard puppy?

Fear stages are not un-common in and breed. Pro-longed ones however are completely different as well as extended recovery periods from something foreign. OP was that the case or did the pup recover quickly? 4 months old is a little off for a fear period but since all pups are not the same, we can run that as a scenario.

Where does personal responsibility come in? It is a well known problem with corsos esp young ones that they do not like being left alone and tend to act out and become very anxious. They will do what they can to let you know they are not happy and that usually means chewing and potty. Also how old was this dog, chewing walls was something both my corsos tried to do while teething and they stopped without a need for medication. I know you have already diagnosed the problem yourself as a mentally disturbed dog, but just as likely you gave a teething puppy an anxiety complex by not providing a comfortable and stimulating home. Maybe next time you should know more about the breed before you start, and your comment about putting the dog down leads me to believe your dog is not the one that should be put down.

Not all pups have "separation" issues and while mine certainly enjoy being with me when I am home they do not turn into nut jobs when I am not. Assuming that they all get anxious and chew or go potty because that is the breed is not the case. Why on earth would your dogs be allowed to chew on walls?
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
Do you have a personal stake in this breeder? Perhaps you would like to invite her on to defend herself? As you coming on a belittling others experiences simply because you do not agree is getting old fast on an hold thread.

Wow, so since you are throwing that kind of accusation out I'm assuming you know the full history of the dog you adopted. I mean you must be right, except why would Olga pay to crop a puppies ears when she does not crop ears without a request and payment, then adopt it out for less then it costs to crop? She's all about the money right? How old is the dog now, it does take time, but I personally don't believe there is such thing a a 5month old puppy that can't be rehabilitated and trained with the right knowledge and time, not every problem can be solved simply by throwing money at a trainer.
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
Ok now that I put my two cents in id like to introduce myself. I am new to the forum and actually came across it just looking for other people that may have siblings of my dogs, because they are amazing. I have a black brindle female and blue brindle male both from borealis and both exceptional animals. They didn't come pre trained and it is work but my female is becoming one of the smartest and bravest dogs I've ever know and gorgeous to boot. My male is still to young to boast about but no complaints yet that's for sure. I would recommend Olga to anyone getting a corso, but would def not recommend a corso for everyone, they are unique and do require a different level of commitment that not everyone is equipped to handle
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
Welcome and congrats on your dogs. I am glad that you have a good experience but with that being said you do not get to come on and discount the experience that others had simply because yours was better. We are an active forum and certainly would love to have you participate and share about your dogs but do not continue to attack others because they did not have great experiences with your breeder.
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
Welcome and congrats on your dogs. I am glad that you have a good experience but with that being said you do not get to come on and discount the experience that others had simply because yours was better. We are an active forum and certainly would love to have you participate and share about your dogs but do not continue to attack others because they did not have great experiences with your breeder.

I don't feel I attacked anyone and if I did I apologize. The only comment that may have bordered on the line was about the person who was going to kill their dog for going potty in the house and chewing things, however i was careful to not directly say anything or threaten anyone was just simply an opinion. Past that I did not do anything other then put in my opinion and try and point out that a lot of the responsibility of how a dog turns out should be with the owner and not the breeder
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
I don't feel I attacked anyone and if I did I apologize. The only comment that may have bordered on the line was about the person who was going to kill their dog for going potty in the house and chewing things, however i was careful to not directly say anything or threaten anyone was just simply an opinion. Past that I did not do anything other then put in my opinion and try and point out that a lot of the responsibility of how a dog turns out should be with the owner and not the breeder

It is a bit of a catch 22, if the breeder does not put the time in during the first 8-10 weeks (longer if the pup is with them) then the owners have a lot of ground to make up. However you are right, if the owner isn't willing to put the effort in then they should not get the dog, any dog for that matter as they all require work. While I know you don't feel you attacked someone when you personally go after their experience, questioning their details and you aren't the breeder of the dogs in question is can come off as an attack and not everyone is thick skinned.
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
Do you have a personal stake in this breeder? Perhaps you would like to invite her on to defend herself? As you coming on a belittling others experiences simply because you do not agree is getting old fast on an hold thread.

No personal stake what so ever, I'm not friends with her and have only spoken to her when purchasing dogs. My problem was the complaints people were having did not seem as valid to me as they seemed to think they were and that's fine I would never tell someone what to think, however this was not just people stating their opinion they are trying to sway people away from a breeder and possibly costing wonderful puppies the best home possible because of their own opinions and ignorance and I just did not find that right. I didn't comment on anything negative I saw just what I felt was wrong. Also now that's it's happening to me I will also say you are awful quick to jump on people who had nice comments about borealis, maybe you have a more personal reason behind it, but you shouldn't attempt to stifle people that don't share your opinion. And again anything I've said that is attacking or completely out of line I do apologize and ask you to please let me know exactly what it was I said that did this so I don't make the same mistake in the future as I do think this is a wonderful site full of plenty of amazing people knowledge
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
I always find it interesting when someone out of the blue joins a forum, not to contribute as an active member but simply to respond to breeder alligations. Like I said before people are entitle to post their experiences regards if they are agreed upon by people or not. If the breeder wishes to come and refute that is her choice.



I don't get how it is confusing, I don't think they said the dog was an adult, just that their dog they suspect had not been raised in the house due to the difficulty in house training the dog. Regardless of who's job it is, if the pup was still inside the house with the breeder it would have been started on house breaking as I doubt the breeder would have let the dog mess all around her house, but hey I could be wrong. I don't think the owner was trying to avoid doing the training for the house, simply pointing out that it was harder than it should have been with a dog that from their post I $#@!ume they had been told was kept inside.

Every time I've been there no matter the weather puppies were always inside unless out playing. From what I've seen she paper trains doesn't start house breaking procedure, that being said it took my 14week old 10 days and never had an accident in the house since. Puppies don't even have bladder control till about 12 weeks. I've just never heard of someone trying to blame a breeder for a hard to house break puppy, all dogs are dif. It was confusing because they way he said all it's life so with bladder control all it's life was about 30 days, not exactly a lifetime to get past.


Fear stages are not un-common in and breed. Pro-longed ones however are completely different as well as extended recovery periods from something foreign. OP was that the case or did the pup recover quickly? 4 months old is a little off for a fear period but since all pups are not the same, we can run that as a scenario.



Not all pups have "separation" issues and while mine certainly enjoy being with me when I am home they do not turn into nut jobs when I am not. $#@!uming that they all get anxious and chew or go potty because that is the breed is not the case. Why on earth would your dogs be allowed to chew on walls?

Not allowed to tried to, as I'm sure you know any puppy will test what can go in it's mouth and chances are if it's wood they like it.