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DDB puppy nutrition - Orijen LBP or Acana LBP???

hthapar

Member
Hey guys,

I have been looking into different dry food options for my DDB puppy. I will be picking him up the week of Feb 17th and need to finalize on this before that.

Obviously I am going to start him off on what the breeder has him on, and gradually transition him to the new variety. There is a lot of information out there in terms of Protein content, Ca content, Ca to Ph ratios, large breed puppy food versus all life stages food, and the list goes on forever. So there are a lot of variables and obviously there is no correct answer or right choice, so to speak as we are dealing with living beings here. Every animal/human is different and will react differently to different foods.

The one constant that is important for me is that I offer the best quality food available to my boy. After countless hours of reading, it seems to me that Champion Pet Foods has done a very good job in listing the ingredients/nutrition analysis and they also claim of using high quality regional ingredients. In no way I am saying, Orijen or Acana are the best foods, but to me it seems that they definitely are among the top quality kibble out there. Also they are great contenders to be the puppies first food choice and based on how the puppy reacts to it, things can be changed.

Now, getting down to the main details of the question, as far as for the most part, the Ca to Ph ratios and also the Ca numbers by itself seemed normal in both cases (below 2% for both). The caloric value for 250ml cup size for both is almost the same. The only notable difference I could observe from the nutrition label and that other people have been pointing out over the web is the protein content. Orijen states it at 38% for LBP and Acana has it at 32%. I am very skeptical when I say this, but to me that does not sound like a big different to make a choice.

Please provide your valuable feedback? Hoping to learn a lot and contribute to the community.
 

voidecho

Well-Known Member
I've been feeding my 8 month old EM Orijen Six Fish since we brought him home. He loves it and he's growing great. However, it's a very expensive food, so I plan to switch him over to Earthborn here in a month or so (after I get my free bag of Six Fish), because it's another five star kibble and it's darn near $30 less per bag than the Orijen.

It took a long time for his poos to firm up, probably because of the high protein and fat content and low fiber. Most of them are good now, but I would never call them super solid.

Good luck.
 

Smart_Family

Dog Food Guru
Neither haha. No need for large breed puppy formulas or any puppy formulas for that matter. You can feed Orijen 6 Fish or Acana Pacifica. Both of these have no grains, no chicken and the proper level of calcium and ratio of calcium to phosphorus for a giant pup under two years of age.
 

hthapar

Member
I just looked into Orijen 6 Fish and Acana Pacifica, and I am not sure I understand the reason for your preference. The protein to fat content seems to be almost the same as for large breed puppy, the caloric content seems to be a little more, and also the Ca to Ph ratio seems to be almost the same.

Other than the noticeable difference that one is based on fish and the other on a variety of meats. What is wrong with chicken as one of the ingredients? Not arguing but need to understand the reason. I thought almost all dogs on the planet are being fed chicken.
 
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Smart_Family

Dog Food Guru
Many mastiffs have issues with chickens and grains. I recommend avoiding both to spar their digestive system in case there is an issue. To switch to any new food you need to do a slow transition. If a sign of an issue or intolerance develops then switching cold turkey to another food or even a slow transition to another food in a short period of time can put their digestive systems into shock. It's just easier to avoid all that mess. Puppy foods for the most part are a marketing gimmick, not to mention mastiffs are giant breed dogs not large breed. Many puppy foods cost more and have you feeding more than the adult or all life stages formulas which as you mentioned are almost identical to to the puppy formulas.

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Also the calcium in the 6 Fish is slightly lower which is good because the LBP is borderline too much.