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Help i can't take the crying

cinnamon roll

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So my pup has been here 2 weeks and still cries CONSTANTLY while in his cage. I've never had a pup that hated to be alone as much as he does. If I let him in the backyard to potty and don't stay out there with him, he just scratches at the door and cries. Please help
 

Murphy's Master

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Im on my first mastiff, so i dont have a lot of experience, but it seems like none of them like being alone. We started out crate training, but our bedroom wasnt big enough for the expandable crate we had. We gave up an dlet him have free run after a month. The crying stopped, but when left alone he would destroy things. We have now gone back to a crate when we arent home, but hes still free at night. My only advice would be to keep the crate near you. and for the backyard, try working on being out there with him and getting further and further away for short periods of time. Remember, he will grow up and it will get better, hang in there.
 

Lisa P

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I have resorted to GNC calming treats for my new rescue Pyrenees...every night when the sun sets he starts barking ..all....night! We are on night 3 of sleeping at night! Maybe they would help your puppy?
 

season

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I always let Solo sleep with me after one night. But he's still crated when I'm gone.
U just have to put up with the crying. Yeah, it sucks but don't give in.


Carpe Diem
 

Brinks

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I agree, don't give up!
We crate trained. It's a tool worth it's weight in gold. Is the crate the proper size? Comfortable bedding? Did you bring home anything from the birth home that might have carried the scent? Do you play/walk a little before bedtime to tire the pup out?
Brinks was pretty easy after a week but we had another dog that went through a challenging time in the crate. We had a wind up alarm clock (no alarm set of course) wrapped in a towel that the puppy seemed to like the "tick tock" sound and would curl up next to it.
Best of luck!
 

Max's mom

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Ear plugs. Praise after a few minutes of quiet...then five min..then ten. Max is 2 and still doesn't like to be outside without me.
 

Boxergirl

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My Al can't be crated, but it's because he bloodies himself. He has generalized anxiety - diagnosed. I don't think that's what you have going on. However, many years ago when my girls were just babies, we had a husky named Mika. I know all the tricks for acclimating dogs to crates. Nothing worked with him. We brought him home at eight weeks and I tried for a month to get him in the crate. He howled. He screamed. He barked. He whined. Every single night. The kids couldn't sleep. My husband was working seven twelves in a steel mill and I'm surprised he didn't just open the door and let the dog run. When the neighbors complained I said enough. I puppy proofed a room and that worked nicely. Everyone was much happier. I'm guessing that you know all the crate training tips as well. Maybe it's a husky thing?
 

marke

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never really had a single pup , but i do separate them into separate kennels pretty young , as young as 8 weeks . they have to learn that they can't be barking and howling , i give them bones with lots of meat on them and food toys to keep them distracted and busy ..... and as i said they can't be out there howling or barking , i do correct them if i can catch them ........... don't know if any of that applies or is helpful , but it works for me as far as having quiet locked up dogs ...
 

season

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All dogs can be crate trained. You just need to keep at it. Solo escaped. Hurt himself. Did whatever he could to get out when I was gone. Not until I found a way he couldn't get out did he finally relax. Also, when Solo cried I corrected it. And I corrected it hard. He didn't like it. But he stopped crying.


Carpe Diem
 

Boxergirl

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All dogs can be crate trained. You just need to keep at it. Solo escaped. Hurt himself. Did whatever he could to get out when I was gone. Not until I found a way he couldn't get out did he finally relax. Also, when Solo cried I corrected it. And I corrected it hard. He didn't like it. But he stopped crying. Carpe Diem

This is simply not true. Not ALL dogs can be crate trained. Just like not all people can be in enclosed spaces. With Al, it had become abusive to force him to stay in the crate. He broke teeth. He pulled off nails. He severely injured himself. He peed and pooped himself. He screamed. He drooled. He shook. For two months he did this despite reinforcing the crate. Ignoring him. Correcting him. Which I'm ashamed that I even did now because he was terrified and it was wrong to correct him for that. Believe me, I know how to crate train dogs. Al can't be crated. I do think the husky could have been crate trained, but with two very young children and a husband working seven twelves in a steel mill I took the easy way out.
 

karennj

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Is the crate right by you? I always had a crate in the living room and a crate in the bedroom. Both right near I would sit/sleep. I would put them in for quiet time when I was just relax or sleeping. Once they were in for awhile and quiet I would slowly move the crate to wherever I wanted it to stay for the next few months until the crate could be put away.
 

gilles

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get an old jeans of yours and tie it i to knots and make toys to play and chew ..give big pieces something she can bite not swallow. also get big cow bone the biggest you can find give it to her at night... raw... keep it there in the crate for her, she will chew on it for a while and sleep but make sure its smooth and no chunks of bone are loose.
 

gilles

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give him the bone only in his crate at night let the crate be a good place to be. in the morning put the bone in the fridge you can use it for 2 weeks if you dont mind the smell...the older the bone the more they like it:)
 

dpenning

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So my pup has been here 2 weeks and still cries CONSTANTLY while in his cage. I've never had a pup that hated to be alone as much as he does. If I let him in the backyard to potty and don't stay out there with him, he just scratches at the door and cries. Please help

We need a pup update and pictures!


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PippatheMastiff

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Was he kept long enough with Mom and sibs? I believe that 8 weeks is absolute minimum and 10-12 weeks better before they leave the litter. But that's my opinion. I would put him in bed with me, but again, that's just me[emoji23].


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PippatheMastiff

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All dogs can be crate trained. You just need to keep at it. Solo escaped. Hurt himself. Did whatever he could to get out when I was gone. Not until I found a way he couldn't get out did he finally relax. Also, when Solo cried I corrected it. And I corrected it hard. He didn't like it. But he stopped crying.


Carpe Diem

See, I couldn't do that. Crying is insecurity. These babies are sensitive. "Correcting hard" seems back assward to me.


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Nik

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This is simply not true. Not ALL dogs can be crate trained. Just like not all people can be in enclosed spaces. With Al, it had become abusive to force him to stay in the crate. He broke teeth. He pulled off nails. He severely injured himself. He peed and pooped himself. He screamed. He drooled. He shook. For two months he did this despite reinforcing the crate. Ignoring him. Correcting him. Which I'm ashamed that I even did now because he was terrified and it was wrong to correct him for that. Believe me, I know how to crate train dogs. Al can't be crated. I do think the husky could have been crate trained, but with two very young children and a husband working seven twelves in a steel mill I took the easy way out.
I have to agree with Boxergirl here. I think most dogs can be crated. However, Cerberus, was claustrophobic and he never could be crated his whole life. He would hyperventilate and vomit when I tried. He was fine with being in a separate room and didn't have separation anxiety issues even though he definitely preferred to be with me whenever possible. He was also well behaved enough (once trained) that he could be trusted to have run of the house without issue.

Diesel and Kahlua both do fine with crating. They certainly prefer to be with us whenever possible but they can be crated. Both of them barked and cried in the beginning. For both of them corrections didn't work because any attention was still a reward to them. Ignoring the cries combined with rewarding calm and quiet behavior is what worked with them. It was a long process though.
 

DennasMom

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Your poor ears!!!

Can you give him a pillow from your bed that has lots of good mommy smells on it to curl up with?

I think we even curled up IN the crate with a puppy once... what ever works!

Denna also needed human companionship to potty outside... she didn't like being out there alone until she was about 5 months old (so, not long really)... but that was in the heat of summer, and she LOVES to sunbathe. She still will only play with her jolly ball if a human is watching... she likes to play keep-away, so, not very interactive, but if the human isn't watching, apparently, it's no fun.

Hope the crying ends soon. :(

I think if you share his picture here with us, we'd be better able to help. Maybe he's just sad that you haven't shared him with us yet! :)