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Mastiff/Wolf Hybrid?

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
If you want to talk about labs go for it but this thread is about wolf/mastiff hybrids

You're the one who stated that the only difference between dogs is their owners. By that standard there's no difference between a lab and a mastiff.
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Ok if you say so, your opinion wind the internet game ;)


If you don't like the comparison don't make the statement. Yes a dog's temperment is AFFECTED by the way the owner handles them, but that is not the same as saying that the owner is the sole cause of a dog's temperment, not even CLOSE.
 

HULK101113

Well-Known Member
Ok ok
Your cooler than me and you've been a member here longer then me... It's ok your statement is right mine is wrong ;)
 

Liza

New Member
We have a mastiff/wolf hybrid. She's still s puppy. Eight weeks now. Her features are of a mastiff, but her sister resembles the wolf. She is taller than most mastiffs her age. Definitely took after the wolf in that part. We'll keep you posted on her progress and temperament.
 

twood71

Well-Known Member
I once cross bred a malamute and a Pointer and came up with a Moot Point! Oh well, it doesn't even matter anyway. lol
 

cj-sharpy

Well-Known Member
I once cross bred a malamute and a Pointer and came up with a Moot Point! Oh well, it doesn't even matter anyway. lol

Hahaha. Love that.

Right my opinion. Every breed has certain things that come with them if you like it or not. You can teach a springer not to chase but he'll always want to given the chance. We can teach a mastiff to love strangers but he'll always want to guard what's his. And I'm sure you can teach a wolf to be obidient but he'll always be a wild animal.
I'm reminded of the ex GFs cat. He was a Bengal and he loved me but we were told that bengals might pretend to love you and do as you ask but only cos it's beneficial to them. Never think they are tame. They are still wild.
I'd think that's the same for a wolf hybrid. They may be the most loving dogs but they are still, somewhere deep down, a wild animal. They've not got the eons of domestication that a DOG has.
But as I've said I'm sure they can be lovely.


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gilles

Well-Known Member
i have seen a wolf malamute cross ...it was actually a mean dog ...talking to the owner it appeared that he raised him to be mean....i think some dog breeds have tendencies like a tendency to be a guard dog , or a tendency to be a hunter etc... but also how you raise your dog is a big part of it...
i have a CAO (Volkodav ie: wolf killer) direct descendant of old time molossers like the old tibetian mastiff, caucasian molossers, Kazakh dogs etc... and well known to be a natural untouched breed for 4000 years and some claim even much more than 10000 years! it has a tendency to attack wild animals and has also a tendency to guard and to be aggressive....i worked extremely hard ...i mean really really hard ..i had a sabbatical year at work and concentrated on him..i could eliminate aggression..and by that i mean useless random aggression ...now he is as sweet as a lab can be ...however the guarding type of agression and the aggression towards wild animals is very strong ....last night he spotted in the middle of the night a dog on the street at 300 yards he did not even bark or any aggressive reaction..he just looked and kept going...would it be a jackal ...it would have been another story ...
the only problem with him is that i have to always be working on him because he is always sort of testing me or trying to ignore my commands. other than that...very sweet and very loving...his father by the way is just a guarding and unfortunately a fighting dog and he is unapproachable.
 

Raech

Well-Known Member
I was raised with wolf hybrids, crosses of german shepard, husky, and another wolf breed. Most of our "dogs" came from Canada. They did awesome with us 5 kids and all our friends, as long as they left the hats off with our last one. They were protective of our vehicles, they rode in the back of our pickup, and house. They weren`t aggressive but stood their ground, if a person reached in the back of the pickup Cinnamon(german shepard/wolf) did snap but as a warning, she only growled if you had a hat on. One wolf was inbred and had seizures, but she would escort us kids around the yard by holding our hand and had to be put down because her seizures were increasing in frequency.

Each hybrid will have different temperments, the owner, exposure, experiances and training do have a large part in the making. But the parent's mentality has a good chunk to do with it too, but I am in no means an expert on wolf hybrids, all I have is the ones in my memory to go off of. In my opinion if you want a hybrid, get the yard and the fence secure well before you start looking. Be prepared for the rude people, they come in flocks; that is why our hybrids were never hybrids, they were husky crosses. Please make sure you are prepared to handle the animal and get it altered, unaltered adults are more like TNT than an intact adult, and if you choose to get a cross with a mastiff the battle of wills will be epic.

It took 3 years for Mom to get the shepard hybrid to listen to her, our "pack order" was Dad, us kids then Mom; she was a small hybrid and my Mom couldn`t walk her, only us kids could after the divorce. With her everyone was welcome if they came in the front door, you could also walk by the fence and get 1 bark, but you peek over the 6 foot fence she would go nuts barking. When they moved to the farm she started meeting vehicles down the driveway barking, no matter who it was, including the school bus. When I came home from being gone for 5 years, she ran up and almost layed me out when she jumped on me. When we were younger she chose to "get" us older kids from the school bus, she tracked us the 2 blocks to the bus stop and was sitting there when Dad found her, she had jumped the fence using the toybox in the breezeway to get out. After the divorce if any of the kids left the house she would sit at the door waiting for their return, if we left the yard she would wait by the gate. With Dad being a longhaul driver, she got in the habit of sleeping in the hall at night, layed under the table on our feet during meals.
 

AZ Boerboel

Well-Known Member
My Grandparents always had wolf mixes. Also crossed with Malamute and GSD. Funny thing with all of them too, no hats allowed. You wear a hat and all of them would growl and raise their hair up.
All of them were great animals with the family.
Another person in town had a Wolf GSD mix that was very aggressive to any one but her owner. Everything else that moved or breathed was a target.
 

SiberianShepherd

Well-Known Member
If you do ever get a wolf-hybrid I am more then happy to help. I have a low content wolf hybrid. Timber Wolf mixed with a Husky. (I have pictures of her dad on my old phone) I generally just call her a husky, or if people point out the longer snout,teeth, or webbed feet, I still say she is a Husky. In California we have lots of issues with hybrids. We rescued her from harsh conditions and bad people. Wolf-hybrids do tend to have sporadic temperaments. They can be happy and fine one moment, then the next moment, they can get aggressive/dominant. Mine bit me when she was a puppy and the entire tooth sank into my arm.... Not fun... You have to constantly train them. We let ours go outside(with us watching) on a steelwire leash that lets her go 1-2 feet from the sidewalk. Good for her to get to see other people/dogs walk by and realize everything is fine. They also love to dig,burrow, and jump fences. We have an 8 foot fence for ours. Ill try to figure a way to upload her dads pictures if I can get them off my old ass black berry knock off haha, if not ill just take a picture haha.

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raji

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My Cody(mother 87% wolf/dad a Newfoundland, moms owner a breeder, neighbor Newfy decided to visit!) hated a hat, too-that's too funny. I even had to ask a state trooper to take his off when I was stopped once. He looked at me like I was nuts, but with Cody going all "Cujo" in the back seat, he didn't hesitate too long! I think Cody was the reason I didn't get a speeding ticket that day!
One thing I remembered my very first vet telling me when I brought him in as a puppy was to never tell anyone what he was(think he meant vets, people who weren't friends, police, etc). He said that some vets wouldn't even vaccinate a wolf dog and others would be prejudiced against him-and this was way back in 1988. Can only imagine how they'd be perceived today with all the BSL's. I would just say he was a mix/mutt.
It's been so long and the fact that he was my first dog and I was young and dumb-I just raised him as a "dog" without much thought or research into how I probably should have. In hindsight his temperament was, actually kind of mastiff like-in that he really only accepted people in my "crew" or who I let him know were ok-certainly no affable lab! And, while he hated children, you'd think(once he figured out she was there to stay!) that he'd given birth to my daughter, himself! I got him at a little over 5 weeks(mother had quit nursing-(he was 21 lbs!)).
Boy, do I wish I had the knowledge back then that I've acquired over the years. He was neutered at 6 months-ended up with 3acl surgeries. Live and learn, I guess, but looking back, hard not to feel like he got short changed. Wish I could post pics, but that was back when you sent off your film or took it to Eckerds-and paid dearly for them!
So, basically in my (limited!)experience, I have only great thoughts toward a wolf hybrid!


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Tellmetostop

New Member
Keep in mind that true wolf hybrids are illegal in most places in the US. Texas law requires 4 generations removed from the wolf; therefore, a true 50/50 mastiff/wolf would actually be destroyed if located anywhere in Texas.

I do have a neighbor who breeds hybrids, and while most of them are great 99% of the time, they are prone to unprovoked random attacks and all of them are professional escape artists. I have seen more hybrid attacks than Pit bull attacks in my years of law enforcement, and most often on children.

While I absolutely love wolves, I would strongly suggest against breeding them or having them as pets. Wolves are meant to be wild.