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Poll:Which dog breed would you pick?

Which dog breed would you pick?

  • Dogue De Bordeaux

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Belgian Malinois

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • German Shepard

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Rottweiler

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Giant Schnauzer

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Boxer

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tibetan Mastiff

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Presa Canario

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Akita Inu

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pitbull

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dogo Argentino

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Alano Español

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bullmastiff

    Votes: 8 21.1%
  • American Bully

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Alapaha Bulldog

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • American Bulldog

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cane Corso

    Votes: 13 34.2%
  • Boerboel

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Doberman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bandog

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    38

heanry

New Member
Hi guys, I did a post yesterday called "Ultimate dog breed?" which I'm sure some of you would have seen. I'm really happy for the great response I got on that post and read people's opinions and actually learn a thing or two about some breeds. So thank you. I'm sorry I seem so contempt on protection and guard dogs but I have always been fascinated by what breed excels all other breeds overall. So I thought it would be cool to do a poll. Unfortunately I am restricted to 20 poll options so I'm sorry if a breed you expected to be a poll option isn't an option. I did my best to round up 25 breeds which I thought were worthwhile contenders. So just like my post yesterday this is a poll for the breed for overall protection ability and guardian ability for personal and property. The breed has to have certain qualities which I listed on my post yesterday which were Top speed, Acceleration, Stamina, Energy, Agility, Endurance, Power, Intimidating, Alphaness, Companionship, Loyalty, Intelligence, Athleticism, Strength, Muscle definition, Swimming ability and Jumping ability. So all you guys have to do is select the breed which you think would excel against the other breeds listed with the qualities I listed. If you have the time I would Google search some of these breeds so you can get a better idea of them if you're unsure on what they look like and the history on them. Anyway I will leave you guys to it and hope to get a positive response again. :)
 

TWW

Well-Known Member
I'd say CAO's should have been listed.
Past that I'd say Boerboel would be your most well rounded powerhouse. Followed by the Dogo.
 

DennasMom

Well-Known Member
I know I said I'd get a Rottie for PP... but head-to-head, on your list of qualities, I'd bet the CC would win.

BB's would be right in there, too - their muscle definition can be awesome!

I'd put the CC with cropped ears higher on the "intimidation" list, though.... cropped ears seems to trigger fear in some people. Intimidation is a very subjective quality.
 

TWW

Well-Known Member
Though I did vote figured this might help with a break down as listing the top 5 for each area.
Solely my opinion. There are individual lines which will be different from the norm and there are breeds not listed which highly surpass what is. Power a EM wins, Intimidating a Fila wins hands down. But by what is listed.


Top speed: Doberman, Dogo Argentino top speed these 2 are incredible, PresaCanario, Pitbull extremely fast dogs, Cane Corso the last of the coursing mastiffs


Acceleration: Doberman, Dogo Argentino, Pitbull, German Shepard, Belgian Malinois


Stamina: Pitbull, Dogo Argentino, Boxer (according to line),German Shepard, Belgian Malinois


Energy: Pitbull, Dogo Argentino, Boxer (according to line),German Shepard, Belgian Malinois


Agility: Pitbull, Doberman, German Shepard, Belgian Malinois, Cane Corso


Endurance: Dogo Argentino, Pitbull, Doberman, PresaCanario, German Shepard


Here where the huge swing begins


Power: Boerboel, Tibetan Mastiff, Dogue De Bordeaux, Bullmastiff, Rottweiler


Intimidating: Boerboel, Cane Corso, Tibetan Mastiff, Dogue De Bordeaux, Bullmastiff


Alphaness: This is subject to lines, and individual pups.


Companionship: Boerboel, Cane Corso, Dogue De Bordeaux, Bullmastiff, Dogo Argentino


Loyalty: This again is subject to individual dog, and your bonding with.


Intelligence; No clear winning here, it is according to individual training, just because mastiff breeds are stubborn does not make them any less smart.


Athleticism: Dogo Argentino, Pitbull, Doberman, PresaCanario, German Shepard


Strength: Boerboel, Tibetan Mastiff, Dogue De Bordeaux, Bullmastiff, PresaCanario


Muscle definition: Pitbull, Boerboel, Dogo Argentino, Bandog, American Bulldog (these are all subject to lines).


Swimming ability: By how you train and subject to individual dogs.


Jumping ability: Pitbull, Boxer (according to lines), Bandog (according to line), Belgian Malinois, Cane Corso.
 

NYDDB

Well-Known Member
Though I did vote figured this might help with a break down as listing the top 5 for each area.
Solely my opinion. There are individual lines which will be different from the norm and there are breeds not listed which highly surpass what is. Power a EM wins, Intimidating a Fila wins hands down. But by what is listed.


Top speed: Doberman, Dogo Argentino top speed these 2 are incredible, PresaCanario, Pitbull extremely fast dogs, Cane Corso the last of the coursing mastiffs


Acceleration: Doberman, Dogo Argentino, Pitbull, German Shepard, Belgian Malinois


Stamina: Pitbull, Dogo Argentino, Boxer (according to line),German Shepard, Belgian Malinois


Energy: Pitbull, Dogo Argentino, Boxer (according to line),German Shepard, Belgian Malinois


Agility: Pitbull, Doberman, German Shepard, Belgian Malinois, Cane Corso


Endurance: Dogo Argentino, Pitbull, Doberman, PresaCanario, German Shepard


Here where the huge swing begins


Power: Boerboel, Tibetan Mastiff, Dogue De Bordeaux, Bullmastiff, Rottweiler


Intimidating: Boerboel, Cane Corso, Tibetan Mastiff, Dogue De Bordeaux, Bullmastiff


Alphaness: This is subject to lines, and individual pups.


Companionship: Boerboel, Cane Corso, Dogue De Bordeaux, Bullmastiff, Dogo Argentino


Loyalty: This again is subject to individual dog, and your bonding with.


Intelligence; No clear winning here, it is according to individual training, just because mastiff breeds are stubborn does not make them any less smart.


Athleticism: Dogo Argentino, Pitbull, Doberman, PresaCanario, German Shepard


Strength: Boerboel, Tibetan Mastiff, Dogue De Bordeaux, Bullmastiff, PresaCanario


Muscle definition: Pitbull, Boerboel, Dogo Argentino, Bandog, American Bulldog (these are all subject to lines).


Swimming ability: By how you train and subject to individual dogs.


Jumping ability: Pitbull, Boxer (according to lines), Bandog (according to line), Belgian Malinois, Cane Corso.

I like this list- and the breakdown according to specific characteristics.

My DDB is certainly powerful and strong...and uses intimidation as his first tool out of the box for getting a pushy personality (usually dog) to back down; it's really something to see.

But jumping? LOL, no way...he's a climber, not a jumper. And swimming, yes; he loves water....not the prettiest swimmer, but gets the job done.

By the way, Rotties can be very intimidating as well; I've been the focus of their "back away" stare and it's enough to make you want to disappear...quickly.
 

Yamizuma

Well-Known Member
Our local police breed and use Belgian Malnois, and having seen them in action, they certainly are amazing officers. A friend of mine was with the K-9 unit, and his partners were really awesome...though most did not double as the ideal family pet. They literally lived to serve.
 

HeatherA

Well-Known Member
Top speed- I am sure there are faster but my Corsi can run this yard pretty fast.
Acceleration again they can get up and go
Stamina the 4 of them can play hard rough and tough a good hour before they start to slow down
Energy excited when they need to be and calm when they need to be
Agility they are very agile
Power they are all 100+ lbs of muscle they are very powerful
Intimidating one glance and most people cross the street
Alphaness my husband and I hold the alpha role in our pack they don't have a chance to try to claim that role
Companionship best couch potatoes when momma needs cuddles and live to be by their kids sides
Loyalty again live to be with their family they love their kids and are very good at looking out for them
Intelligence all 4 of ours learned all comandsfairly quickly and are great with them
Athleticism these guys love to run fetch play tug they are all for a good workout and walk
Strength very strong
Muscle definition you can see all the bulgy muscles in 2 of my girls the other 2 not so much
Swimming love swimming
Jumping ability they can clear a 6 foot fence if allowed to

i read this list and i instantly think Cane Corso
 

gilles

Well-Known Member
from the list maybe i choose BB
thanx TWW yes CAO should have been listed:) also spanish mastiff and Tosa these three are real power houses.

my CAO (Volka) might seem lazy and slow sometimes, but then when needed he switches to an explosive power house, his stamina and speed are amazing , we went hiking and climbing the other day and some of the slopes are almost vertical and i thought Volka is too heavy for that and will refuse to go for it as sometimes he stubbornly stops walking when i take him out. ....however he proved to be a goat like climber..pulling me up at times:) also he proved to me that when i need him to be by my side in difficulties , he is always there..when we came back after a two hours hike and he went for his ball to play fetch and tug of war.
with other dogs he is still so gentle with little dogs, and self confident and dominant with larger ones. i never worry about him getting hurt his skin is so thick that it is virtually impenetrable.
 

AZ Boerboel

Well-Known Member
My family has owned everything from Rottweilers, Wolf mixes, GSD, Doberman, lots of labs and hounds for hunting, little pugs and terriers and I now own a Boerboel. No dog has ever surprised me on a daily basis like my Boerboel does with their intelligence and situational awareness. They are a very well rounded dog capable of more than just protecting. 2 weeks into having her with us she understood what light switches did and even which ones turned on certain lights.
I've been around a lot of highly trained GSD, Doberman and Rotty's and I'd take on any one of them any day of the week before I'd ever take on a Boerboel, trained or not when it is serious. The way they think, maneuver, use their weight/power and how fast they are for their size. There just isn't much else I would want in a dog. When it is time to chill, they go chill. When it is time for the Crushinator to come out, it comes out.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
I think that most of it is subjective based on particular lines in any of those above breeds. I can think of corso lines that excel at all of those things and others that don't. I see BB that I think would be the same, same as Dogo, and a lot of the other breeds. There are also some limitations in regards to perhaps weather conditions that might affect some of the breeds listed as well that would make some excel at certain times. You will also likely have some breed bias based on who has owned what in regards to dogs and I don't know a lot of people that own or have owned most of those breeds.
 

Boxergirl

Well-Known Member
I think that most of it is subjective based on particular lines in any of those above breeds. I can think of corso lines that excel at all of those things and others that don't. I see BB that I think would be the same, same as Dogo, and a lot of the other breeds. There are also some limitations in regards to perhaps weather conditions that might affect some of the breeds listed as well that would make some excel at certain times. You will also likely have some breed bias based on who has owned what in regards to dogs and I don't know a lot of people that own or have owned most of those breeds.

I completely agree with this post. I also think that the terms need to be defined better. You've chosen things like stamina and endurance. Those two words are very close in definition and not everyone uses them the same - how do you differentiate between them? Agility, athleticism, jumping ability, etc - again, very similar.
 

swanguy7

Well-Known Member
I see a lot of post here from people that have obviously not owned a bullmastiff or have much knowledge about them. They are hands down naturally purely bred guard protect dogs . Powerhouses designed to take down men etc . Very intimidating and ranked number 1 guard dog in the world on 4 different sites you can google. Even ceaser Milan (dog whisperer ) has them as top guard protect dog in world. Also owning them I can confirm all above . Also surprisingly fast and agile . Tho they won't last long in endurance etc .
 

swanguy7

Well-Known Member
Doberman could be up there also in many ways. I'm not big on them personally but my father had a big red German Doberman it was powerful protective full of energy and endurance intimidating smart etc etc
 

PrinceLorde13

Well-Known Member
I see a lot of post here from people that have obviously not owned a bullmastiff or have much knowledge about them. They are hands down naturally purely bred guard protect dogs . Powerhouses designed to take down men etc . Very intimidating and ranked number 1 guard dog in the world on 4 different sites you can google. Even ceaser Milan (dog whisperer ) has them as top guard protect dog in world. Also owning them I can confirm all above . Also surprisingly fast and agile . Tho they won't last long in endurance etc .

No one is saying the BM isn't a wonderful guard dog, just not as well rounded as some of the top ones in all the categories listed. I've been around many BMs in my life and fast and agile are not descriptions I'd use unless followed by for their size and build, same for acceleration. From your post I'd say it's you that doesn't have much experience with the breeds being discussed here and that's fine I have no issue with your opinion, everyone's entitled to one just don't come throwing jokey bits from the internet like they're evidence of some kind. finding 4 websites out of the literally trillions of dog list throughout the internet is not really empirical evidence of any sort, just like trying to use Caesar Millan as some sort of reference on this topic, also if you're referring to the list of best protection dogs on Millan's website that has BM as number 1, it wasn't written by Caesar Millan, just some girl that writes for the website and if you look through that whole list some of them get pretty laughable to be in the top 10
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
Not going to vote because my choice is swayed by my preferred breed and if I had a situation where I needed a dog for a specific task I would need to choose based on that task.

As for the my favorite breed the Boerboel I have seen them excel in everything that TWW listed.

Jumping: Agility: I have see them jump over cars and scale obsicles that a Mali or GSD could not.
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Endurance: I have seen them running along side quads and cars for miles on end with no signs of fatigue.
Stamina: They might not have this unless the endurance part is applied

Intelligence train-ability: I have trained them to perform tasks in as little as 2 repetitions.

Top speed: Acceleration: I watched Jade chase down a bicyclist peddling for his life, Watching Odi doing zoomies in the back yard is like watching a cheetah chase a springbuck.

Muscle definition: Power: I have seen some monsters.
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gilles

Well-Known Member
Dmike is right somehow, , GSD and malinois are no match for many dogs such as the BB and for sure the CAO. a CAO for example is much stronger , much bigger and has tremendous endurance since he is bred thousands of years ago to cross mountains and plains with shepherds and tribes..and to combat wolves , hyenas, bears, , its skin is impenetrable, you do not train a CAO for guarding you just train a CAO for basic obedience and the rest is totally natural...i assume the same goes for a Boerboel.
However a GSD and a Malinois are more trainable for very specific tasks, they are also easy to handle and to train and more practical to carry around etc... in short a more practical trainable dog.
i give an example: my friend is a reputable police dog trainer , he trains malinois and GSD and he refuses to train my dog for attack. he told me that once he did train a CAO for attack and the dog jumped on the man in the special suit (the guy he is supposed to attack) and with his shear weight and speed dropped the guy on the floor bit his sleeve , dragged him and started shaking the guys arm and almost tore his shoulder ligaments. in short not a practical dog to train.
i myself had few accidents where volka dragged me down trying to chase jackals, i had few injuries here and there and once had my wrist in a cast. a CAO is extremely sweet with kids and family but will not back down when it is on the move and cannot be stopped no matter how hard you train him.
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
CAO, FILA, Boerboel and a few others need to be trained to not attack rather than trained to attack people. Other breeds that need to be tought to attack are sheep hearding dogs. They were not bred with the intent of attacking humans.
 

GaMei

Well-Known Member
I will disagree with only one item from your list which is:

"Power: Boerboel, Tibetan Mastiff, Dogue De Bordeaux, Bullmastiff, Rottweiler"

Tell me of another breed on the list that can handle a 90+KG wild boar? if that's not power i don't know what is. The Dogo Argentino has a
[h=1]Mesomorph[/h] body and as a mesomorphic animal, no part stands out from the whole body which is harmonic and balanced.