Want to try a raw food diet but my Cane Corso is intolerant to all fowl

[CaneRocco]

I've read I should ideally use 4 protein sources but with chicken, duck, etc not being an option, whats left other than beef and fish? Is pork healthy for dogs?

 

[ruthcatrin]

Pork is fine, I feed alot of it.

But how did you determine intolerance? Its actually fairly common for dogs to be allergic to something in kibble form and tolerate it just fine in raw form.

 

[CaneRocco]

Pork is fine, I feed alot of it.

But how did you determine intolerance? Its actually fairly common for dogs to be allergic to something in kibble form and tolerate it just fine in raw form.

The intolerance was in kibble form. Started him on chicken kibble and was a disaster. Tried duck next and still diarrhea. Got a salmon based food and he got a little better but I noticed the food still contained some chicken meal. Switched to an all buffalo meat kibble and now he's fine.

I'd feed him real buffalo if I knew where to buy it.

 

[ruthcatrin]

Buffalo'd break the bank, and I CAN get it local, its not cheap.

In your case I'd probly suggest starting him on rabbit (instead of the usual chicken), rotate him through beef, pork, and find sources for mutton, or goat, or venison. THEN once he's solidly on raw cautiously try him on raw chicken/turkey/etc.

Are you in the US?

 

[angelbears]

^^^^^^Great advise and I second that dogs that have a problem with chicken in kibble don't necessarily have the same problem with raw. I would do it just as Ruth suggested.

 

[CaneRocco]

Buffalo'd break the bank, and I CAN get it local, its not cheap.

In your case I'd probly suggest starting him on rabbit (instead of the usual chicken), rotate him through beef, pork, and find sources for mutton, or goat, or venison. THEN once he's solidly on raw cautiously try him on raw chicken/turkey/etc.

Are you in the US?

Yes, I am in the U.S. I plan to harvest a couple deer this year but am a bit worried about Chronic Wasting disease thats popping up in the deer in my state.

Might have to start raising rabbits? I hear they're pretty easy to raise.

 

[ruthcatrin]

Canines are immune to CWD. I have a link to the study somewhere, I'll dig it out for you.

Tomorrow when I'm on the desktop instead of my ipad I'll dig out my link list of raw feeding resources for you.

 

[DDSK]

Have you tried Lamb?

 

[CaneRocco]

Canines are immune to CWD. I have a link to the study somewhere, I'll dig it out for you.

Tomorrow when I'm on the desktop instead of my ipad I'll dig out my link list of raw feeding resources for you.

Thanks. I had no idea dogs were immune to CWD. My local conservation department reccomends not eating organ meat or bones. I wonder if they would be ok to feed tony dog?

Have you tried Lamb?

Nope. Forgot all about that animal, haha. I don't recall seeing lamb at the grocery store. Will have to look for a supplier.

 

[ruthcatrin]

They would be fine to feed yes.

 

[ruthcatrin]

Study on CWD on a variety of animal types: Trans-species amplification of PrPCWD and correlation with rigid loop 170N the canine brain matter did not support the CWD prions at all.

 

[ruthcatrin]

List one of raw feeding co-ops: DogAware.com: Raw Dog Food Co-ops and Local Groups
list two: Raw Feeding Coops - Raw Chat - PMR Articles - articles - Prey Model Raw

Even if the closest co-op isn't that close to you contact them and find out how far out they go. The two local to me actually have a range of over 2hrs drive.

Also look for meat/resturant whole-salers and suppliers in your area. I also get quite a bit via a local wholesaler who's willing to sell to the private consumer as long as I buy by the case.

Also, look up deer processors and see if they'll sell you scrap meat. And ditto any small farms etc.

 

[DennasMom]

Great advice above!

Lots of non-poultry options: beef, pork, fish (we use sardines & mackerel), rabbit, venison, lamb, buffalo, goat, llama, emu (although that might be considered poultry...)

Our "base" diet is boneless beef, boneless pork shoulder, pork ribs and sardines (frozen/whole, from the Asian market); plus "toppers" of green tripe, beef kidney and lamb liver. The rest we add in as available for variety. I'm finding with our local buying group, the 'variety' is out-weighing our 'base' contents quite often.

There are also online vendors that will ship stuff: greentripe.com and hare-today.com are two that I think ship nationwide. plymouthpoultry.com is a PNW operation - that has much, much more than just poultry - maybe there's something similar in your area.

There's also a yahoo group dedicated to just finding suppliers: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CarnivoreFeed-Supplier/info

Someone here was just talking about raising 'feed rabbits'... I'm sure it could be done. I don't think I'd be able to do the slaughter piece of it... but there are traveling butchers that might help with that piece, too.

 

[CaneRocco]

List one of raw feeding co-ops: DogAware.com: Raw Dog Food Co-ops and Local Groups
list two: Raw Feeding Coops - Raw Chat - PMR Articles - articles - Prey Model Raw

Even if the closest co-op isn't that close to you contact them and find out how far out they go. The two local to me actually have a range of over 2hrs drive.

Also look for meat/resturant whole-salers and suppliers in your area. I also get quite a bit via a local wholesaler who's willing to sell to the private consumer as long as I buy by the case.

Also, look up deer processors and see if they'll sell you scrap meat. And ditto any small farms etc.

Thank you for that. There is a co-op very close to me. I've been researching rabbit raising and seriously intend to begin raising them. Maybe I can trade rabbit meat for some other kind of meat in the co-op.

 

[rdryan]

The intolerance was in kibble form. Started him on chicken kibble and was a disaster.

What do you mean by disaster? What were his symptoms?

 

[CaneRocco]

What do you mean by disaster? What were his symptoms?

He was constantly scratching himself with obvious patches of irritated skin. He had terrible gas and bad diarrhea.

He's on a buffalo only kibble now and perfectly happy/healthy with regular solid stools.

 

[rdryan]

Can I ask what brand of food? I am having a hell of time finding a food my guy can eat. He has gotten all of the above, plus regurgitates often.

 

[CaneRocco]

Can I ask what brand of food? I am having a hell of time finding a food my guy can eat. He has gotten all of the above, plus regurgitates often.

The first foods I tried were blue buffalo,grain free "wilderness." My local pet store called that their premium line. When that all failed I went to a specialty store and got American Natural Premium Grain Free "Buffalo." It solved all his problems in a matter of weeks.