Why does this post keep getting deleted? It is an example of poor dog ownership.

[Mollys dad]

This article has been deleted twice now. If it is a policy violation then fine - tell me that. I don't think as responsible mastiff owners we need to stick our heads in the sand in regards to mastiffs harming people. As I had mentioned before in the post that was deleted along with some of the discussion it generated, it seems so unbelievable as really gentle a bullmastiff is.

I guess the owner was teaching/causing this type of behavior?

This event seems unbelievable to me. What would drive a bullmastiff to this?

Link to source removed. Admin.

 

[musicdeb]

What can cause this behavior is either genetics, kids will be kids by harassing the dog or bad owner.

 

[ruby55]

I'm always suspicious of articles like this. I want to see a picture of the dog in question. On almost every occasion, the dog turned out to NOT be a bm, or it was a mix. I'm saddened by these reports though, as it casts a shadow on a very noble breed.

 

[Siloh]

I'm from NJ. This incident didn't really do harm to the breed for public opinion in NJ from the reactions I've heard; it did damage to ALL powerful breeds.

I haven't told my parents about Hamlet because I know my mother is irrationally suspicious of pit bulls. When I saw her last week, I was watching an episode of the Dog Whisperer about a couple of rottie pups that were being dismally handled. She automatically brought up this attack, followed by nonsense about dangerous breeds. I kept pausing and playing back the show to point out the poor training (my mom trained at least three GSDs very well--she is not dog stupid). By the time Cesar comes in, he basically says exactly what I did about how they were failing to control these young puppies.

Her mind was unchanged. These powerful breeds, to her and to many, are just bad news. It'll be interesting to see how she reacts to Hamlet once I break the news. It won't be before his AKC STAR for obvious reasons.

This just hurts all our large dog working breeds, period. I'd say the breeds this doesn't hurt but could are GSDs and huskies. Somehow smooth coat + squarish head = scary dogs all.


"Nothing is neither good nor bad, but thinking makes it so."
Hamlet Prince of Denmark

 

[Siloh]

Why does this post keep getting deleted? It is an example of poor dog owners...

A link describing conditions:
Dog that killed Paterson teen was a ticking time bomb, neighbors say | NJ.com

I'll add that Paterson is a very, very scary neighborhood. If I were stuck on the streets there, a dog attack is the last danger that would spook me. Some white girl graduate like me? I'd be as good as dead.

"Nothing is neither good nor bad, but thinking makes it so."
Hamlet Prince of Denmark

 

[Jadotha]

I have read several accounts, including the one Siloh posted, that indicated the dog had initially been friendly, but had been frequently provoked/taunted by kids. Also, the fencing was inadequate, enabling the dog to escape on more than one occasion before. By accounts of neighbors, the dog was left outside for long periods in inclement weather and cold temperatures. Additionally, judging by the picture of the dog, it was poorly bred. Hence, I think bad genetics, bad owner and harrassing kids all played a role in this tragedy.

Siloh, I don't see it as adding anything to our understanding of the scenario to bring race into the discussion.

 

[AKBull]

Not sure if or why it was previously removed.

 

[DennasMom]

I remember reading this a while back... didn't know it went away?

 

[Jadotha]

Yes, the same for me.

 

[cobb069]

Thank you for sharing this again. Ive never seen the article before.
It saddens me that these stories effect large/ strong breeds.
All dogs have the ability to "turn" and can be for a number of reasons and labeling certain breeds as dangerous in peoples eyes just because of sheer size is so wrong.
I look at Caesar Milans pittbulls Daddy and Junior and they are absolutely beautifully natured. Its all in the training and upbringing.

I have a 9 week old DDB and people have have asked about his size when he gets older and how I will keep him away from kids and other dogs. Automatically assuming he will be aggressive.

Makes me so angry but I know
it comes from lack of knowledge from their part and articles such as these.

Its a sad case but clearly there were some signs there and also the dog was mistreated to some degree.

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[Vicki]

We do not allow any negative press about any of our breeds on any of our sites. We are here to promote the breed in a positive light, offer news about the breeds in need, but, please, no bites or attacks.

Anyone who wants to read these stories or source these stories can use another site. This site, and any others owned by us will not be a source, or a reference for negative press.