Woman on NYC Train Continued to Push Dog

Discussion in 'Dogs in the News' started by Steven C, Apr 26, 2018.

  1. Steven C

    Steven C Active Member

    What will probably happen is after she seeks advice, some ambulance chaser will probably say she injured a nerve in her foot and also psychological damages which will end the dogs life. In hopes they may side with the dog as I believe they should. Fingers crossed.

    Just because where you are from and where I am from people get physical all the time, doesn't mean its ok to get physical for a small infraction offense. Getting physical is still battery or assault, while putting a dog in someones personal space is a fine.

    Like I said I respect everyones opinion here so thanks for the input.
     
  2. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    True no one would, but that was over 40 yrs ago. It was A different world.
    As a child I hated my parents actions, as an adult I understand their actions... Also back then we believed if a family pet dog tasted blood good chance they would turn into killers.... Silly I know. But still it's the owners responsible for their dogs actions ;)
     
  3. Justin B.

    Justin B. Active Member

    Nobody said it was ever ok to get physical...
    He hit the lady first....
    He was the one charged. ..
    Was she charged?
     
  4. Steven C

    Steven C Active Member

    First off I wouldn't call her a lady, I would call her a caged hyena. Secondly no, she threw the first punch at his service dog. The initial charge means little, as the case progresses as prosecutors look at the evidence, perhaps she will be charged instead. We will be updating this case as it comes in. She should have been charged, but many innocents are wrongly charged all the time. Then again in the commy utopia who knows, they may side with the woman.
     
  5. Nik

    Nik Well-Known Member

    So the lady sounds like an awful person to me and very uneducated and unintelligent.

    The man seems irresponsible and hot headed...

    And all I can think is that existing in cramped corders like in NY makes people crazy in the very literal sense.

    I feel so bad for that dog who seems like he was the only one with a good head on his shoulders.
     
  6. Nik

    Nik Well-Known Member

    While I tend to agree that hitting a dog is equally as bad as hitting a person sadly the law doesnt afford the same protection to our furry friends. The law will see him as having started the violence. Its wrong and I dont agree with it but that is what will happen.

    Also I am a super liberal person and jokingly refer to myself as a flaming commy all the time so please dont confuse liberals with crazydog haters. ;-)

    Also I think calling the “lady” a hyena is an insult to hyenas. Just saying she seemed like a total garbage person (not to insult garbage collectors who provide an extremely important service).
     
  7. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    The New York Post reported that while the man claimed the dog was a service dog but it remains unclear what task the dog was trained to perform. An unidentified police source stated that there were 311 prior complaints about him. It was unclear how many of those involved the dog.

    Then there's this:

    http://abc7ny.com/owner-of-pit-bull...ested-for-separate-harassment-charge/3401124/

    And this:

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...-Again-Stalking-Incident-Bronx-481121241.html
     
  8. Nik

    Nik Well-Known Member

    This is awful. At that age I would have tried to literally kill the other children in retaliation. When I was five I tried to drown a boy in the toilet when he bit me so hard I bled. I got in trouble and he did not. I still find that unfair. I hope karma kicked the butt of those horrible bully kids and their equally awful father. Some people really dont deserve to share our planet. :-(
     
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  9. Steven C

    Steven C Active Member

    LOL. Yes I apologize to all Hyenas.

    To be honest I am hoping the liberal look at dogs prevail here. I am conservative with most things even though the United States has lost every single conservative argument since the beginning of time. Hence why we are a hair from world communism and fascism.

    One thing I can say is that I am often pissed off at the conservative look at dogs. Many of them have zero empathy for dogs where I differ tremendously, it would take an actual attack on me or a loved one for me to pull a trigger on a dog. Many conservatives pull the trigger for nothing on dogs. Basically the dogs lives are cheap, so in this forum and when it comes to animals I am sure the feeling is mutual.
     
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  10. Steven C

    Steven C Active Member

    Wow! I will read those articles now. 311 previous infractions does not help. I am beginning to worry about that dogs safety now.
     
  11. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    I don't know about karma but I got each one and beat the crap out of them... Funny no one every really bullied me again after that.
     
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  12. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    Wow! Now I'm also worried about the dog.... I really hope when they finally catch up to the guy they give the dog a chance with a better handler
     
  13. Justin B.

    Justin B. Active Member

    Nothing that ever said she punched the dog.
    Charged with what?
    Just because you dont like something doesn't make it a crime.
    Pushing a dog out of a no dogs allowed area or off of your person probably isnt a crime.
     
  14. Justin B.

    Justin B. Active Member

    Yeah im sure the judge/court will side in his favor now. (Sarcasm)

    Thanks for the links good info!
    Always so much better to just read the facts than to speculate about complete strangers.
     
  15. Steven C

    Steven C Active Member

    The fact that mainstream has this article and it went viral, it could actually be a staged incident to bring on NWO legislation regarding dogs. I know dogs will be in trouble in the future, I know agenda 21 has no place for dog ownership in its plans that I have heard or read so that is a possibility.

    As far as the other incidents go, women charge men all the time with fake rape cases so a stalking case means nothing to me in this day and age. Just look at the latest lynching of Bill Cosby, you have to see that these women were no angels. Maybe they liked coke a little too much and later regrets. Very common in todays life, reckless charges for the innocent if they think differently. If they cant charge you they take away your livelihood, job ect. Vicious!

    The son owed money or something, totally unrelated different incident.
     
  16. Steven C

    Steven C Active Member

    I am sure there is a federal crime to hit a service dog.
     
  17. Justin B.

    Justin B. Active Member

    Im talking about the specific example of what happened. The actual witness report you wanted everyone to read.
    This can't be for real....is it???
     
  18. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    Did you seriously just say all of this?
     
  19. Jarena

    Jarena Well-Known Member

    I love this. Respect for strangers. Inconsiderate asshats are what make the world a crappy place. I don’t know much about this case but you are right about respecting people’s space. I love my dog so much. But she’s a dog. If someone wanted me to move her, I would. My boyfriend is terrified of dogs (besides Lettie). He has been bitten 4 times at peoples houses (he’s an electrician). There are so so many reasons, as you mentioned, that someone might not want to be sharing space with a dog.
     
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  20. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    In answer to your question -

    http://servicedogcentral.org/content/node/445

    (510 ILCS 70/)Humane Care for Animals Act.


    (510 ILCS 70/2.01c)
    Sec. 2.01c. Service animal. "Service animal" means an animal trained in obedience and task skills to meet the needs of a disabled person.

    (510 ILCS 70/4.03) (from Ch. 8, par. 704.03)
    Sec. 4.03. Teasing, striking or tampering with police animals, service animals, or search and rescue dogs prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to willfully and maliciously taunt, torment, tease, beat, strike, or administer or subject any desensitizing drugs, chemicals or substance to (i) any animal used by a law enforcement officer in the performance of his or her functions or duties, or when placed in confinement off duty, (ii) any service animal, (iii) any search and rescue dog, or (iv) any police, service, or search and rescue animal in training. It is unlawful for any person to interfere or meddle with (i) any animal used by a law enforcement department or agency or any handler thereof in the performance of the functions or duties of the department or agency, (ii) any service animal, (iii) any search and rescue dog, or (iv) any law enforcement, service, or search and rescue animal in training.
    Any person convicted of violating this Section is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. A second or subsequent violation is a Class 4 felony.

    (510 ILCS 70/4.04) (from Ch. 8, par. 704.04)
    Sec. 4.04. Injuring or killing police animals, service animals, or search and rescue dogs prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to willfully or maliciously torture, mutilate, injure, disable, poison, or kill (i) any animal used by a law enforcement department or agency in the performance of the functions or duties of the department or agency or when placed in confinement off duty, (ii) any service animal, (iii) any search and rescue dog, or (iv) any law enforcement, service, or search and rescue animal in training. However, a police officer or veterinarian may perform euthanasia in emergency situations when delay would cause the animal undue suffering and pain.
    A person convicted of violating this Section is guilty of a Class 4 felony if the animal is not killed or totally disabled; if the animal is killed or totally disabled, the person is guilty of a Class 3 felony.
     
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