Zeuterin - Intact Male Sterilization by Injection

[raechiemay]

A friend of mine posted this link on her facebook page & my first immediate thought was, "is this a safer alternative to those mastiff owners with intact males that do not wish to breed instead of neutering?". I read through the article & I noticed they didn't mention any possible side effects of this injectable sterilization which concerns me & will obviously get me into researching this a little further. According to the article, in 99.6% of the cases where the injectable was given to male dogs between the ages of 3 months & 10 months, it created permanent sterilization. It has also been given to dogs outside of that age range with successful results as well. It allows the dog to remain intact, however making the testes smaller. Has anyone else heard about this or done some research on it? While I'm not entirely interested in pursuing this when I am in possession of a male dog, but it sounds like an acceptable way to start helping control the stray population worldwide?

Will have to post the link on my phone...the forum keeps freezing every time I try to post the link.

 

[raechiemay]

Single-Injection Dog Sterilization Zeuterin Available Starting Monday

Am I not allowed to post links? This is really weird!

 

[Th0r]

So if the hormones are still flowing after the shot, doesn't that mean they will keep marking and attempting to hump females in heat?

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[raechiemay]

So if the hormones are still flowing after the shot, doesn't that mean they will keep marking and attempting to hump females in heat?

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That is what I am trying to figure out...they do not address this in this particular article & I really want to know what side effects can come up & are they monitoring dogs after they are administering this injection if they are intending to administer it to strays.


ETA: I just read they inject directly into the testes...I am not a man but holy cow this made me cringe!!!

 

[Th0r]

Smaller nutsack is definitely a bonus but hopefully the urge and marking stops too.

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[raechiemay]

Found this site. I'm guessing this information was posted before the FDA approved it so some of the info may be a tad bit outdated. I am not particularly fond of the possible side effects, but it seems like they are less likely. This website suggests that the behavior such as roaming, marking, aggression or mounting dogs may or may not be eliminated. Suffolk Veterinary Group Animal Wellness Laser Surgery Center - Veterinarian In Selden, NY USA :: About Zeuterin Neuter

 

[DMikeM]

There never has been any proof that eliminated the testes stops marking and humping, both my Rott/Chows still do both and are neutered for over 12 years. Behavior is just behavior and a dominant male will be dominant with or without the nuts.

Leaving the hormones active with this shot will just give you a proper animal that is able to develop as it should just minus the production of sperm which is what we have always wanted for our dogs that we do not intend to breed.

 

[raechiemay]

^this was my assumption as well as there's no guarantee either way whether people give this injection or do a surgical neuter. Is it possible to train an intact male not to exhibit these behaviors? Or is it just kind of in their nature to lift their leg when they pee or mount a female in heat? I understand there's always exceptions to this, such as males who never lift their leg. I just figured it was all about training (learned behaviors).

 

[DMikeM]

^this was my assumption as well as there's no guarantee either way whether people give this injection or do a surgical neuter. Is it possible to train an intact male not to exhibit these behaviors? Or is it just kind of in their nature to lift their leg when they pee or mount a female in heat? I understand there's always exceptions to this, such as males who never lift their leg. i just figured it was all about training (learned behaviors).

^^^^^^ yep

 

[musicdeb]

Titan is neutered and he still marks outside.

 

[DennasMom]

our last dog (neutered at 6 months per adoption contract) would hump other dogs just to piss them off... hoping that would incite them to a game of chase.
Sometimes it worked, mostly not... he still tried, anyway... he did learn "off", but I had to use it a bunch at dog parks.

If the side effects and risks are acceptable, I'd be willing to go the sterilization versus full neuter for our next dog.
Risks for surgeries are not low, so avoiding going under anesthesia would be a good thing.

 

[raechiemay]

It kills me having to take my yorkie mix in for her teeth cleaning each year & I know I was a wreck when Duch went in for her spay. So any male dog in my future will be kept intact, however, if this injection becomes available in my area I may consider it. It depends on a lot of things though

 

[ruthcatrin]

I haven't looked at it closely yet, but its supposed to result in the dog still having the large majority of hte testosterone remaining, so the ONLY thing it does is remove the ability to father pups. But then, thats the ONLY thing that removal of the testes guarantees too really. I've seen far to many neutered (often neutered early) dogs who still mark and hump, and I can't count the number of times I've had people tell me their neutered male still tied with a bitch in heat!

 

[raechiemay]

Ruth that's a good point too. It did point out the ability that an injected male could still successfully breed a female up to 30 days post injection. Surgical neutering is supposedly 21 days so people would have to understand they would still need to keep their males away from females for at least 30 days.

Or did you mean neutered males still tying but not breeding an in heat female? Is that possible?! If so I had no clue!

 

[ParentsofVegas]

^this was my assumption as well as there's no guarantee either way whether people give this injection or do a surgical neuter. Is it possible to train an intact male not to exhibit these behaviors? Or is it just kind of in their nature to lift their leg when they pee or mount a female in heat? I understand there's always exceptions to this, such as males who never lift their leg. I just figured it was all about training (learned behaviors).

As far as humping a not in heat female, it really was not hard to get the new guy to stop.
For the first two days I thought we were never going to get through to him, but we
continued to work the positive reinforcement for getting down and he has not needed
to be told anything in that regard for quite a few days.

 

[ruthcatrin]

Ruth that's a good point too. It did point out the ability that an injected male could still successfully breed a female up to 30 days post injection. Surgical neutering is supposedly 21 days so people would have to understand they would still need to keep their males away from females for at least 30 days.

Or did you mean neutered males still tying but not breeding an in heat female? Is that possible?! If so I had no clue!

Neutered males can, and often do, still tie with a bitch, they just can't inseminate her.

After the removal of the testes ( a traditional neuter) some males do loose interest in bitches in heat, but MANY still show interest and some will even tie if allowed. And I don't mean in the few months after the neuter, but long time neutered males have been caught tied.

 

[ruthcatrin]

For what its worth, though I'd not trust Apollo LOOSE with a bitch in heat, he HAS obeyed the leash and my voice in the presence of a bitch in the early stages of heat.

Nor does he hump.

He does mark outside the house, and I have occasional issues with him marking in pet stores.

But we also started YOUNG with the no humping rule and had the "benefit" of having an intact bitch on a neighbor's property from day one so he learned early that no matter how good she smelled he wasn't allowed to be a jerk when she was in heat.

 

[musicdeb]

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[Th0r]

Although I have made up my mind that I will not go this route with Thor, this Duffy Jones is grasping at straws here...
Sounds like she doesn't want to lose income by using Zeuterin. Seems to be adding some non existent cost to the procedure just because it's "new".
If it was available in 03-04,then there are bound to be reports of negative impacts somewhere.
Also why would a dog with half the testosterone level be more aggressive if they weren't aggressive to begin with?

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