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Almost time for the big dreaded N

Nik

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We just scheduled Diesel's neuter appointment with a vet we trust. It's still over a month out but I'm a nervous wreck just thinking about it. Ugh.
 

Nik

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Mostly because we are tired of other people's neutered dogs attacking him when we are out on walks and having the owners tell us their dogs behavior is our fault for having an unfixed dog. Most of his problematic "unfixed" behaviors have already stopped or slowed down (marking and bed humping) and Im not sure the off chance of testicular cancer is reason enough but the behavior of fixed dogs towards him does worry me so that is the primary reason.


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season

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Neutering a dog won't fix behavior problems. That's our job as owners. That's my take. I don't have Solo fixed and won't.
How are dogs "attacking" your dog on walks? Just curious. I've never had a dog "attack" Solo on a walk. And if it happened it would get a size 12 right in the face. Anyway, I'm not telling u what to do but don't allow other ppl to make your decisions.


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Nik

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Season - people who are either walking their dog off leash or dont have control of their dogs. I have never let their dogs hurt Diesel even going so far as to tackle the other dog before (Diesel has been a very good angel every time, stayed put and not reacted). But it has happened enough times to concern us.

The behaviors (diesels behavior) as I said are pretty much completely under control now so that isnt an issue but the behavior of other dogs is a worry.


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Nik

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And yes the other owners who were walking off leash were breaking the law but that doesnt stop them from doing it or from insisting that their dog is harmless and only gets upset at unfixed dogs making it our fault.


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season

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Ok. Understood. But that should be the reason u neuter. Those off leash dogs would have run up on you guys regardless. Again, not telling u what to do but I wouldn't do it if I were u. Especially based on idiot owners opinions.


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season

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If you're a responsible owner (I believe u are) then in my opinion there is no need to neuter, unless there's a serious medical issue. The whole "it helps with behaviors" excuse is lame in my opinion.


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glen

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Staff member
I would honestly say those dogs would've attacked if yours had already been neutered,iv met many many people that have had there dogs neutered for this reason and for aggression its not made the slightest bit of difference. If you haven't got size 12 like season has take something with you to defend yourselves ie stick. Feel for you I get sick of owners that let there poorly behaved pets off to cause havoc, iv come to the decision to let glen off at the owners its working a treat hahaha.
 

JamieHalverson

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And vice versa, my neutered male has never acted differently with intact males than he does with other neutered males. I know I just have the experience of one dog to go off of, but my guess is you will NOT see a difference in how other neutered males treat him and you will run in to exactly the same problems after you've neutered him. Just my thoughts.
 

Smokeycat

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My guess is that by claiming that your intact dog is the reason their dog is misbehaving they are absolving themselves of guilt. They were the "responsible" owner and did the "right" thing by neutering their dog so your dog has to be a fault because you are irresponsible. I actually had a conversation with one idiot in which they stated that Kryten was the reason their dog was misbehaving and that I needed to neuter him so that other dogs felt safe around him. Because everyone knows intact males are vicious. My replay was to comment on how the intact male was standing at his owners side while the neutered male was being hung partially in the air by his collar by his owner in an attempt to control him and asked if he wanted to change his opinion on which dog was vicious. I haven't ruled out ever neutering him but I do realize that not neutering means that I will have to deal with ignorant people who do still believe that having testicles means that their dangerous.

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NYDDB

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My guess is that by claiming that your intact dog is the reason their dog is misbehaving they are absolving themselves of guilt. They were the "responsible" owner and did the "right" thing by neutering their dog so your dog has to be a fault because you are irresponsible. I actually had a conversation with one idiot in which they stated that Kryten was the reason their dog was misbehaving and that I needed to neuter him so that other dogs felt safe around him. Because everyone knows intact males are vicious. My replay was to comment on how the intact male was standing at his owners side while the neutered male was being hung partially in the air by his collar by his owner in an attempt to control him and asked if he wanted to change his opinion on which dog was vicious. I haven't ruled out ever neutering him but I do realize that not neutering means that I will have to deal with ignorant people who do still believe that having testicles means that their dangerous. Sent from my SM-G920W8 using Tapatalk

You are practically replaying a scenario that happened with me about a year ago...

There is a woman with 2 dogs that lives in our neighborhood, one is calm, a non-issue. The other one (black shepherd mix) has been after Mateo since the moment he saw him. The woman has barely been able to control the black dog, as he lunges and barks at mine (Mateo's response has been to stand tall, and just stare at him- that's it)...so whenever we see each other, one of us crosses the street, or somehow creates space between them. Even so, I have seen the black dog send the woman flying to the pavement with his lunging.

One day we were coming home from the park, when the woman and her dogs turns the corner, right into our path---her dog sees mine and lunges. The woman couldn't control him, and he runs and attacks Mateo. They both get into it full force, with me, as well as a few guys from a restaurant nearby get them apart(meanwhile the woman is standing back, about 20 feet, just watching.) After all is said and done, the woman walks up to me and screams, "This wouldn't have happened if your dog was neutered!!"

Now. As she is screaming, I look down at my dog, sitting calmly by my side...and then look at her dog: he is being pinned down with one guy's knee on his chest, and another guy's foot on his head, just to keep him under control. When I show her the difference, and please tell me which dog has issues....she just stomps off in a huff.

The only reason she said what she did was because that was her only defense (as lame as it was); she had no other.

So, Nik...this is just one example, and I get it. Whether this dog (or countless others) would still be acting aggressively towards Mateo if I ever got him neutered, I will never know. Because I will not castrate him, for my own reasons (health being one)--unless medically necessary. And I absolutely will not allow idiots to sway my decision for their own self-satisfaction...

That said (man, I wrote a book!)-- I have no issue for people who decide that it's in the best interest of their dog to neuter/spay- that's their decision, their dog. And everybody has to make their own choices... Either way, your boy will be fine. :)
 

NYDDB

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One more example that is actually impressive, and rare:

About 2 years ago, I was walking with Mateo on a sidewalk that was narrowed due to construction. A man comes towards us with a huge black Lab. When the Lab sees Mateo he lunges and growls-- the man was big enough to be able to grab his dog and slam him into the side of a building so we could pass by (and not get attacked.) As we pass, the man yells out, "Why don't you get your damn dog neutered?!- I wouldn't have this problem!" I yell something back (probably should have kept quiet, but I was pissed...) and just kept walking.

However, since then--- I notice something has changed: this guy has been doing some serious work with his dog. When we have passed each other, his dog has been right by his side (tight leash), with no reaction. I can hear him giving a command to his dog, and with authority- and the dog is listening and responding to his owner.

To this day, whenever we see each other, his dog has become completely non-reactive to Mateo. WOW- an owner who decided to stop blaming other people (and their dogs) for their own dog's behavior, and do some training to help create the behavior he wants to see in his own dog...so impressive, and something you so rarely see...
 

glen

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I think poorly behaved owners zoom in to see our dogs nuts just so they've got an excuse ready for when there dog attacks, all 3 of my boys are keeping there danglers it wouldn't be the same not to see them swaying in the wind as they run haha I really think these puppies have frazzled my brain I can't stop being stupid loll.
 

Iulicris88

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I would understand them asking you to neuter you dog if he was the agressive one, though i'm not sure it makes much of a difference. But to do it because they're too stupid to educate their own dogs? not happening!!! I would probably put a bow on his nuts whenever i took him out just so their dogs would die with envy at the beautiful display of manliness.
 

Iulicris88

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Oh, and if their dogs think they could pick on us... Well, i may not have size 12 boots, but i do have size 7 stilletos. And, i'm not afraid to use the, both on the dog and it's owner.