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Thank you all for your thoughts. I let the issue go with the vet because I thought I was making a big deal out of nothing because if the way she made me think. I will be looking for another vet tomorrow and getting him an sppointment right away. The good thing is that he comes out of it very quickly and doesn't act like it hurts him and once he "walks" it out all is normal. During the day he runs and plays and jumps on the couch as much as I try to keep him off of it, lol. I will keep you all posted.
At first thought, before watching the video, I was thinking it was just growing pains. I remember when my previous EM would get up after sleeping in his kennel, he'd be a little stiff, and grew out of that. Now after watching that video... I don't like getting people panicky, but something seems def. wrong.
At first thought, before watching the video, I was thinking it was just growing pains. I remember when my previous EM would get up after sleeping in his kennel, he'd be a little stiff, and grew out of that. Now after watching that video... I don't like getting people panicky, but something seems def. wrong.
That was my thought to at first. And why I asked for a video of it. These big guys can get stiff from sleeping, as they grow, it happens....but yah, I'm not liking the video either. Thought maybe I was over reacting since I've never had an EM pup, but yah.
At first thought, before watching the video, I was thinking it was just growing pains. I remember when my previous EM would get up after sleeping in his kennel, he'd be a little stiff, and grew out of that. Now after watching that video... I don't like getting people panicky, but something seems def. wrong.
I thought the same or Pano, but after seeing the video it just looks more serious.
Mustang9846 I hope the new vet or even the original will figure it out fast. The only reason I bring up the old vet is if you press your concerns at this point she may be a good option because of knowing your dogs history. I have gone back to vets that I didn't approve of because I had to and everything worked out well in the long run.
I second this. I have a 4 year old cat who limps when she first starts moving but jumps and runs without showing any signs if lameness. Vet checked her out couldn't find anything and sent her home with 5 days of painkillers. When she still had the limp a few weeks later I took her back for a recheck and took a video with me since after she has been moving the limp completely disappears. He watched the video and you could see his demeanor change from humoring me to seriously trying to figure what was wrong. Turns out she has arthritis years before it normally is seen.
Its hard to tell the video is short and to get an accurate account you'll need to really watch after getting up, running and walking about. Staying crated can cause them to be stiff, especially if they favor laying on one side. When you hunt for a second opinion it is extremely important that you ask the vet about his experience with giant breeds, have him/her actually give you examples of the patients he has treated. Most do not have experience with them and base their decisions on the "average dog". My two vets allow me to send photos or video questions. Were the parents of your pup vet checked prior to breeding and were their hips & joints examined? EM pups at a young age tend to have more legs than they know how to control, they fall and slip alot! My pups all stretched often and still do after getting up after a long time laying down. Is your pup walking on the pads of his feet or is he turning them outwards and putting pressure on the lower leg to compensate for balance?
Yep I agree. Definitely not normal and not how my spinal arthritic dog is. Her legs in the video seem very "off" to me. Not sure if it's just the video or what.
I found a new vet today. When I took Loki to puppy classes the lady who ran the class has 3 EM's so I called her and asked for her vet. I spoke to the vet's office and she said one of the vets in the office only deals with large and giant breed dogs. She also said they have all they equipment that would be needed to treat whatever it is. They are going to see him Friday because that vet is not in the office on Thursdays. The parents were not hip checked. That was something I didn't know they did before I got him. Even though I thought I did my research. I contacted the breeder and she is also concerned. She has Loki's sister because she decided to keep her and sent sent me a pic of her today. Her back legs are much thinker and more stable than Loki's. I really hope everything is ok. I love him more than anything! My husband says I have developed an unhealthy attachment to him, lol. I am staying positive, thank you all for your input.
My first EM had HD & she had little to no muscle on her back legs. They were also straight as boards. When I had found her breeders information & contacted them, they didn't care at all. She got overly defensive & said they've never had problems but didn't do any kind of testing either.
I just got out of his appt. It is HD. The vet was really good and did a very detailed exam. It is a very slight case and she said we may be able to keep it from getting any worse with the joint therapy and exercise. I've been crying all morning.
There are several members here who have had dogs with HD, its not a death sentence, and by catching it early you can do things to manage it NOW. Which isn't a bad thing.
So sorry for your bad news. My Dozer is 10 and has HD and does very well so don't give up and don't beat yourself up there was nothing you could have done. But there are things you can do now and if you had not become his mommy who knows what would have become of his life. Get him on good strong suppliments, and chicken feet. Buffered aspirin works well. Not coated aspirin. Ascriptin is the most common and well tolerated.
