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Cane Corso - Advice before I adopt / Breeder Suggestions / Introduction

Vantage

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Just wanted to say thanks again to BlackShadow, I will be going to the AKC event this Saturday :D! Hopefully I can meet a fellow Corso there! Even if I do not I still would like to check it out and see how they preform, as I do plan on doing this with my boy when I get him! The club hosting the AKC obedience event also has classes, so this would be a good opportunity to see how they work over there and to get some more information. I also think it will be a fun time to just go and see some beautiful dogs compete :p.

Also been talking with one of the breeders I mentioned in one of my earlier posts. I'll get some more info. then get your guys opinions :).
 

lexinrose

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I agree with hireth. First thing that popped out at me about your situation is your chronic back pain. What happens to you if your dog takes a quick lunge at something that you weren't prepared for and where your not standing in the proper position to counter act that lunge so 120 lbs force will it hurt your back? Really think about this. I broke my knee not being ready from my 90 lbs pitbull. So add another 30 lbs to that equation. Another concern you live with your parents. Don't you ever want to move out will the dog go with you? You said your finances aren't good. My cc pup is 5 months I had to buy 2 crates already to house her. That was $200.00 Dog bed, $30.00 puppy food not the cheap stuff $50.00 she goes through the the big bag in about 2.1/2 weeks every week. I had to buy alot of chew toys Kong toys they cost $20.00 or she will chew you out of your home if you buy the cheap ones she'll break them with in a day. I had to take the pup for her shots visit was $50.00 and meds ran to $30.00. You have to do that 3 times for 3 weeks. Then there is the puppy school at petsmart. $120.00 for a six weeks course. Which you want to star right away. I have owned my pup for 2 months so far so all this and more has been paid out. Will you crop ears, tail that cost and needs to get done right away. My girl is getting Ready to get fixed at her 6 month cycle 1 Mont away $350.00 she broke 3 puppy teeth playing on pull rope with my pit they want $90.00 you said you have a yorkie. She will be bigger then him this breed is very rough. My pup was 3 months old and refused to back down to my pit she would try to jump on him and bite his neck them she does this high speed flying run to him. My pits 90 lbs. Also first month I had to be very careful that he didn't bite her for her actions. Your yorkie is 4 already set in his kingdom she will torment him non stop because she wants to play. My cc also needs a long walk everyday or I can hersee misbehaving how does your back handle this. Lastly you said your yorkie is 4 years old and hasn't learned the heal command so she's been pulling you for 4 years shaking my head at that 1. OK 1 more you said your looking for reputable breeders it sounds like you found a bunch of them that don't want to sell to you because of your situation and you finally found 1 that will. That sounds like the other ones where good and that this one is looking to get paid. Maybe you should check into a cane corso rescue center and become a foster parent or volunteer there. See the big picture up front. I think you are attracted to this breed but I don't think you have done your homework on what life will be like. If your walking this breed outside when there full grown 90% of the population will say it's a huge pitbull if you can't have pits trust me where can you walk this dog. Only far away from civilization so not in town not at Dog parks not boarding it. Saddest thing you can do to yourself and the dog is to get 1 fall in love with it ignore what we said something happen and you have to surrender it cause it hurt your back or you get violations. Who will take your baby it's nice to dream about the breed but get your self straight first then do right by this breed

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Boxergirl

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I apologize for the small hijack, Vantage, but I wanted to ask lexinrose a question. Lexinrose, please do some research before you spay your girl at 6 months. It's generally recommended to spay after maturity, so 18-24 months. If you absolutely must spay earlier, wait as long as you can. Most of the literature will site cancer and HD statistics, but please also look at spay incontinence for a female. It's extremely common in dogs that are spayed early. Again, sorry for the hijack.
 

lexinrose

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Shipping is usually not a huge issue. Air Canada will no long transport the breed so all those being flown in will have to com in on West Jet which might come down on places you would get a pup from. Also if shipping in from the US they have to be in a reinforced crate so there is an increased cost if flying in from the US. I agree with not settling on the first breeder you come across, and actually have nothing I can offer you and don't know when I will. We have a waiting list usually started for our litters before we breed them as we don't breed often, typically when we plan to keep something back for us. You however are more than welcome to ask any questions you have and I will help with whatever I can. If you build a relationship with a breeder then there might be aspects of their contract they are willing to talk about or work with you on but for those that they don't have a deep relationship with it would likely stay with those conditions as they are to protect the pup, breeder and owner so that everyone know what is expected from the start. While there are shady breeders there are also shady owners that think nothing of saying one thing and doing another and breeders get burned too by owners that don't honestly care for the breed
Hi I have a quick question about not neutering or spaying this breed to young I have my girl she'll be 6.months soon vet wanted to do it. I was going to do it but your stating to wait could you let me know what the pros and cons are to waiting and not waiting before it's to late.

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lexinrose

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It seems as though there should not be any surprises for me! I've looked through countless number of sites, and the "is this the right breed for me" section on them (always names a little differently), and have yes to say "no" to any fact listed, on any of the sites. I'm confident I know what I am getting into. Now to find a trustworthy breeder!There are a couple more I have been looking at;Liliani Cane Corso (Local) [Breed looks good! But I'm not sure about the "working" aspect of it]http://www.avituscanecorso.com (Long-Dist.)Bodyguard Cane Corso | Available Puppies and Upcoming Litters Classes (Long-Dist.) [But looks promising] ...I'd make the drive out if necessary.Can anyone say anything about the above breeders? Or can anyone recommend any other places I should check out? :) Although the search continues!Also, a side question, does anyone else have a Corso that has not been spayed/neutered? Or has your pup had this done? ...I do not really see any plus to having a male Corso neutered? (Other than the decrease, in very low chance of cancer?) And to protect the breeder...
2 intact male dogs will fight.

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lexinrose

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What are the reasons to Hold off fixing a female cc. Pup that will be 6 months soon just curious.

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lexinrose

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I apologize for the small hijack, Vantage, but I wanted to ask lexinrose a question. Lexinrose, please do some research before you spay your girl at 6 months. It's generally recommended to spay after maturity, so 18-24 months. If you absolutely must spay earlier, wait as long as you can. Most of the literature will site cancer and HD statistics, but please also look at spay incontinence for a female. It's extremely common in dogs that are spayed early. Again, sorry for the hijack.
Thanks for the advise boxer I always thought the younger the easier it will be on the pup recuperating that's what vet said

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Boxergirl

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What are the reasons to Hold off fixing a female cc. Pup that will be 6 months soon just curious. Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

I don't have the links handy on this computer, but Hiraeth posted some links to the studies on this thread.
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If you start a separate thread with your question you'll probably get more answers. Definitely also look up spay incontinence as well. I don't want to hijack Vantage's thread too much.
 

lexinrose

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This might sound dumb but I don't know how to start a thread yet. I gotta run for few but if you tell me I'd love to speak with you. Not sure where this will post from and I don't want to hijack her post. I also figured was good related question

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Vantage

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@Lexinrose, no offence but you sound like a first time dog owner. I've grown up with large dog breeds all my life. You posted a lot of different things in that wall, but I'll try my best to address each. Firstly, I don't know why your pit is lunging at people, that is part of the reason I am looking for a GOOD breeder with a reputable and STABLE bloodline. Well bred Corsi should NOT be attacking everyone they see. Again depending on where you get your corso, the breeder I am looking at..most of their dams/sires and around or under 100lbs, some are larger and that is totally possible. And I have taken that into consideration.

And please do NOT take my words out of context and make assumptions, where did I post that most good breeders have not accepted me??? I NEVER said that. I said I am doing my RESEARCH, and looking at as MANY different reputable breeders as I can. If I decided not to go with one, it is NOT because "THEY" did not accept me, but because I CHOSE they were not what I am looking for, for whatever reason that may be. (Like one breeder saying they had big heads, solid bones, longest breeder in ___ area, but could not provide me with anything more than a preliminary hip consultation.)

Back to finances and training - I appreciate you outlining all those things, but fact of the matter is they do not *need a Toy box full of toys. They need attention, physical and mental exercise. Just as they do not *need a bunch of treats (like many owners think they do.) Sure some antler or RAW bones are nice from time to time, but they don't *need multiple treats a day to keep them occupied.
Next my Yorkie did not learn heel for a while, but was it necessary? Because he can't heel does not mean he is pulling on a leash. And if you know a lot about small breed dogs they do not necessarily need a lot of exercise. 30 minutes of Fetch (which I taught him, go get it, come, release, etc) and he's all tired out. He can't last more than 5 minutes in 5degree CELCIUS temperature without shivering (with a thick coat/sweater ON). So in winter he is always inside and we tire him out with mental training and fetch :p. I am a nature guy and I enjoy going to the park, sitting by water, walking trails and forests, thus I am looking for a breed I can take with me on these activities, since I don't know a lot of people who personally enjoy these things. (most people I know like to go to bars, play basketball, etc...and that is not me... I don't recall going to even ONE party in high school or university, just not my thing. I don't drink or do anything else like that.) I do enjoy a came of friendly soccer form time to time.
Finances will be shared by my parents and I, THEY also want a large breed dog and will ALSO be contributing to the expenses. They are just allowing me to pick a breed I want, and would like me to care for him, which I am more than willing and knowledgable to do. (more on that in my next paragraph). Still on finances, I do not have ANY intentions of moving out of my parents home for the next 10-15 years to be completely honest. We have a good sized home and they welcome me to stay. (I guess it might be more of a culture/religion thing. My cousin is 28 and he still lives with his parents. One of my best friends is 33 and his sister 29 and they both live with their parents, in a million+ dollar home might I add.) I have zero interest in going on any vacations in the future, my last trip on a plane was 12 years ago, and to be honest I just don't have interest in travelling. I like to spend my time in my city, outdoors, and at home.
Next is training? Firstly my Yorkie is as trained as he needs to be, he knows sit,stand,stay, lay, wait, leave it, paw, and more in two different languages. We groom him, hair cut, shower, nails, ears and he lets us without issue, he actually enjoys it. And in most cases we can just pick him up if we need to. I carry him up a flight of stairs to his bed most days, which is what I'll be doing with my Corso *as a puppy*(yeah he'll be heavier I am aware).
Lol @ petsmart (and lol $120), that is where I took my first dog when I was 10 or so. No offence but they are horrible. I plan on going to a reputable trainer, and am looking at one that works in conjunction with AKC and holds AKC obedience/tracking events/trials (as well as others more experienced with the Cane Corso/Molosser breeds). $265 for puppy kindergarten. $300or so for obedience. And then possible tracking and schutzhund/bite work. I plan on getting him his CGC title asap. Followed by working towards an Obedience title and then IPO. I've been doing a lot of reading and research on this lately, and what better way than hands on? Of course I will have a professional to help me.
Sure I will still buy him toys to play and help train. Strong rope toys, firehose material toys, things he can not eat and tear apart easily, as most large breed dogs usually do with things like teddy bears/squeak toys. My best friend has a King Shepard and I walk him from time to time, he pulls a little, but I'm fine with it. Over time I have learned what aggravates my back, and how to do things to not aggravate it, and what kind of things I should not do.
For food - Taste of the Wild is what I plan on feed my Corso, and possible raw from time to time. My yorkie only gets Natural food, no artificial flavors/colours/additivies, and it is one of the pricer foods there. But we care for his health. My vet works at an Animal Hospital, and he does not just stick a bunch of needles in him every year (like most vets do for money). He tells me what is necessary and what is not.

I think that covers most of it. And finally I'm NOT attracted to this breed soley on it's appearance. But it's temperament, the fact that it is a strong protective breed, but one that also loves to be loved. I could get a husky, similar in taking care of needs/training, but one that does not want to cuddle and chill with that family (not what I want.) And lastly, I could care less about what Joe-Blow and others things. The Corso is for me because that is what I want. I don't buy ANYTHING soley to "show off" to others. I could care less what anything thinks, as long as my corso is well behaved and trained. I'm not really sure where half your post came from, reading between the lines? Making assumptions? But if you actually read my entire thread then maybe you'd have a better understanding. Hopefully from this post you do.
If I plan on making a 14+ hour drive (there and back) to get my puppy, spend $3000+ dollars on him, $300+ on gas (when I can get a pup shipped for ~$400), you don't think I would have sectioned out and thought of other costs, food, vet training before diving into something like that?

And I'm not sure if you have spayed your pup yet, but it sounds like you are the one that bought a pup without doing your research. Please don't spay or neuter before the age of 18months. Do *your* research. And Please, Please, do not do this, that early. Oh also why are you spaying her, is there reason? (think about it, don't reply to me here, start your own thread if you really want to get into that conversation, thank you.)
 

Vantage

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Also no worries @BoxerGirl thanks for respecting the forums/my thread. As well, I noticed you welcomed me in one of the other introduction thread posts, Thank You! From what I see you are a truly compassionate person (Going back to that Cane Corso thread and asking the owner if they went to the vet tech and had their vet appointment and results, towards the guy asking if his pup had dirrahea.)
 

Vantage

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2 intact male dogs will fight.Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
2 intact *UNTRAINED* male dogs will fight, sure. That is owner responsibility and training. And quite frankly if they grow up together and this is instilled very early as a puppy, I don't see it being an issue. IF it becomes one, then I will take the necessary steps to doing what needs to be done (whether it is a behaviourist, or a trainer, or just more training.) People here have Corsi, Small breed dogs, and Cats living under one roof.

Why your pitibull is lunging and attacking people, I don't know. Bad temperament? No training? You should get that worked out. Again I'm not against pitbulls, I think it is RIDICULOUS they banned a breed.. not the breeds fault - but neglectful, uneducated owners.
 

lexinrose

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Sorry I offended you but your first thread said I have a bad back and I am young and I need my parents help to take care of this dog. And you asked what people had to say so I told you now my dog lunged but my husband threw a ball while my back was turned whipped me right around just like that my pit wasn't attacking anybody. Next. Your a ball of contradictions if you have it all figured except the breeder part and that's what your questions where based you should have posted that. And lastly you yourself said alot of the breeders have requirements of seeing pictures of where you live and we live in a townhome. Not a million dollar house. So going by your own words that's why I thought well you probably didn't like the other breeders because of how much they wanted to be in your business that you where searching for someone that would be accepting I never said they turned you down. Anyway I wish you best regards because you think you know what your talking about so good luck to you can't wait to see your puppy and all the fun you two will be having and end of the day its your problem not ours we can afford our animals you well prove it to us by doing right by your animal so we can say bravo. Oh and your right about the when to fix my pet I was going by the schedule her veterinarian gave me. I joined this forum to learn about cc she is my first but believe me I have had more animals in my care custody and control then you. I provided for all of them with the best care any of them can get. So keep in touch send us pics of your pup playing in the yard of your new house once you move and please share the videos of your pup going through the special training that your going to give it. Love watching those videos and don't forget the ones when you take your dog on those long hikes love seeing wilderness pics to have a great day.

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Vantage

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The suggestions you gave did not offend me. That fact that you read in-between the lines, made assumptions, jumped to conclusions about my dog, and were disrespectful did. Yes I said I'm fairly young but way more mature than my age, and I had a back injury four years ago that I am just getting over now. Hiraetch responded to my post in a respectful manner, and offered suggestions I could take into mind. I still can not tell if you are being a sarcastic arse or if you are being serious...And you are still mixing up my sentences.... I did not say they require pictures of where you live (I said ONE breeder I looked at requires pictures of the pup growing up...the puppy not the house), and I am not bringing a Corso to a townhouse... I said I'm bringing it to a large detached home, with a large fenced yard...and that is why I waited to not get a puppy earlier. You just assumed they were not going to sell me a pup because I did not meet their requirements.
I said MY FRIEND that is 33/29 live in a million+ dollar home with their parents, suggesting I don't plan on moving out any time soon. Again you are mixing up my sentences.
I said my parents would help me take care of the dog FINANCIALLY. So as you put it "it is my problem and not yours that you can take care of your pets and say bravo..." suggests your are being a sarcastic arse. If I get a puppy it will be taken care of exceptionally well, just as my yorkie is, just as my dogs in the past had been... And I definitely won't take them to pet smart, I realized what a waste it was the first time I took my dog there. I have nothing to hide and am straight forward and outright with the breeders I talk to, so they can provide me with a dog that would be a good match for me.
...the fun I will be having at the end of the day is my problem not yours... lmao, I'm not even going to argue with you, any nonsense posts you post will just be ignored. Like congratulations you have a whole bunch of pets in your care...and? Has nothing to do with me...did they all go to pet smart? That's considered the best care any can get... then I'm truly afraid. (Your post suggests lack of knowledge. Ever watch animal rescue where they take away 30 cats from a house that can not take care of them, number of animals has nothing to do with knowledge or how well they are cared for or trained.) "Special training" lol you are ignorant. Tracking, Obedience, Agility are considered "Specialized" training? Like what Swat or Secret service? Haha. A lot of people do these kind of things with their dogs and with working breeds. I'm not going to argue with you like a twelve year old. You clearly doubt I will buy a dog and clearly think because I'm young I have no knowledge. Your response is bias and I see no point going back and forth with you. I clarified my thread in my last post and stated what I would like to do with my dog. -not to argue with you. You are right, I do know what I am talking about (that my family and I can care for a dog, train him, and keep them well groomed), I did not say I know it ALL, and don't think anyone on this forum can say they do.
My original post asked for breed specific things that they had dealt with, when it comes to Cane Corso. Not what is needed to take care of a dog and not what is needed to take care of a large breed dog.

I respected all others responses to my thread and will continue to have an open minded towards anyone else that responds. I've been watching these forums for quite a while now and I have to say, you are the first person I've seen act this rude and aggressive.
 

lexinrose

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Anyway like you said your not a 12 year old we don't need to keep this going. Just looking forward to seeing your pup and all the good things you'll be doing for it. Oh my pit is protection trained through private classes my pup for her basic training which I do in the home the reason I choose petsmart for sit stay come go. Is its cheap and she gets to interact with alot of other dogs and she gets to wander all over the store that's why it's a good cheap place to start when it's time for advanced attack training she goes to private school. No need to reply I think we've come to our end

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Vantage

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^lol, just had to get that last word in didn't you ;) ...in your position I would not have replied. But since you told me I don't need too reply to my own thread I just had to