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Do nots for a new bullmastiff owner??

Ruger2013

Member
What are absolute do nots with a bullmastiff? I have 4 dogs already they get along great. I have owned Rottweiler's , dalmations, border terriers and everthing in between but Ruger our new pup is our first bull. What are some things a new owner should never do as for discipline, praise and so on. I know what books tell me but would like some actual bull owners opinions :) Thanks in advance Oh and Ruger has been great so far.

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17 weeks old here and 51lbs
 

Ruger2013

Member
I should note that he does awesome on a leash, is house broken, already knows a few commands and is very good with our kids.
 
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LizB

Well-Known Member
Well, I've owned 3 bullmastiffs over the past nearly 20 years, and I've learned, as many will agree, that you can't get rough or lose your temper with them. Training starts the first day you get home, and I like the "nothing in life is free" method, which means you basically own everything in the house, all the toys, all the food the doorways, the stairs, etc. They need to sit or do something before you feed them, give them a treat, give them a toy, let them out or in the door, etc.

These are very stubborn, independent thinking dogs who were developed to make decisions for themselves, and that is exactly what they do. Depending on the dog, they are not particularly eager to please, but they enjoy doing what you want, to a point, lol.

Rather than "dog proof" your house, let them have an opportunity to fail in front of you, so you can correct the behavior. We could leave food on the coffee table with us out of the room and our dogs would not take it, simply because people food belongs to US and they wouldn't dare. It takes time, and the dog will go through a teenage phase that will drive you nuts, but patience and consistency are important. Obedience classes are great. Socialize socialize socialize, oh, and socialize. This dog will be large and powerful and you don't want it to be nervous or fearful in new situations. Take him everywhere you can. We like the classes that train for Canine Good Citizen, because it exposes the dog to many situations and helps the dog achieve a bombproof nature.

We have kind of a strict attitude when it comes to training (dogs are not allowed to beg or look us in the eye when we're eating, for instance) because when we got our first one we had a 3 year old and we were petrified he'd knock her down, step on her, bite her, etc. so we stuck to a program and it paid off. We then had twins later on and we've continued this method for all the dogs we've ever had, so our dogs never took food from kids or bowled them over in play.

I think you'll find that you've got a wonderful companion on your hands, and don't be surprised when you want another one! We never want to be without one.
 

Ruger2013

Member
Thank you for the input :) We walk him everyday to pick up the kids from school so he interacts with many adults and kids every day. Plus I take him everywhere in my Jeep. Only real problem we have had is when we keep my fathers scottie dog(17lbs btw) , the scottie attacks Ruger they both keep trying to be between me (the papa of all these things in my house) and each other. Ruger actually nipped at my face when there was a confrontation with each other and I was on the ground and tried getting in the middle. the scottie is a male and has always been around female dogs, he is neutered. Is this still a dominance issue?
 

ruby55

Well-Known Member
Although we've never had a problem with our males, male bm's have a reputation for not tolerating other males, any breed, intact or neutered. A friend who is a breeder says your male may decide one day that he's had enough of the other male. If that happens, close the door, pour yourself a stiff drink, & decide where to bury the loser. Sounds a little harsh.
The one thing all of our dogs MUST learn is "leave it". That command pretty much means "Don't even think about it", whatever "it" is: getting on the couch, picking up something from the floor, starting a play/fight with another dog, etc. If it's in their mouth, drop it; if they want to pick it up, don't; if they try to get up on the furniture, stop.
I would just watch the two of them at all times, you're going to know when it's escalating, & nip it in the bud. Oh; and NEVER put yourself in the middle of a dog fight, no matter how big/small the dogs are. Ruby's brother got very aggressive at about 14 months old -- long story; not his fault -- & the owner broke up a fight with a baby gate shoved in the middle of the two dogs.
Sounds like Scottie & Ruger were rescource guarding YOU. So maybe Ruger has a little problem sharing, and the scottie does too. The NILIF training method is great for dogs like this. They learn quickly that they have to work for everything, including you.
 

LizB

Well-Known Member
Good advice from Ruby. We never had a problem with our males, but too many experienced breeders have told me about not having a male BM with any other male dog - I got the advice about pouring a drink and deciding where to bury the loser too! I think it is pretty true of the breed.

We absolutely adore the command "leave it/drop it" too. We use Drop It to cover both situations (ignoring something we don't want them getting mixed up in or physically dropping something out of their mouth) and it has come in handy so many times.
 

Ruger2013

Member
What's funny is I was told that too. We have a male border terrier neutered is about 5 years old. he weighs around 20lbs. Him and ruger are the best of friends and the 2 that are always running and playing.You can see from this video
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So the good news thus far is he is alright with male dogs other then the visiting scottish terrier. The bad news is I have a couple more days of it lol then the scottie goes home. Thanks all :)
 

BAMA-BM

Banned
The male with male advice is relevant only because male BMs like to be second in command to their owner of choice (usually they are a one owner dog), Sometimes owners of two males, same or other breeds are fortunate enough to get a male that doesn't mind being third or lower on the pecking order. Ones that have horrid experience (like i did a few times) is usually having (for me) 2 BMs that wanted to be my second and competing for that right.
 

wtfdskin

Member
I found out the hard way about breaking up fights. Not fun being caught between 300 lbs of feuding dog. Zeus got me in the forearm just missing a vein. He immediately relased and retreated when he realized he got me. Out vet suggested using an object to intervene such as a plastic wiffle ball bat.

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