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Hi everyone, this is Lucky 3-4months

natuan257

Member
Tks guys. This is the first time i've got a dog so i have no experience at all. Can u recommend that What is the standard weight when Lucky is 4 months? And do u guys think that his face will change a lot when he becomes adults?
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Welcome aboard and congrats on your new family member~ Lucky's standard weight should be that Lucky looks fit and trim. Meaning you can feel his last 3 ribs with no pressure. His adult weight will be around his parent's weight. His face will change as he matures. Lucky is extremely handsome and looks very healthy.

The following tips/suggestions are based on my experience as a dog mommy, forum member*s posts and volunteering at an animal shelter for a year.

*CRATE THE PUP

You want to crate train the pup. Make sure you have a blanket, stuffed animal (about their size) and white noise (ticking clock or ipod with soft music) so the pup can sleep. The pup is used to cuddling with siblings.

Make the crate the pup*s happy place to go to when he wants to sleep, decompress or just hang out.

*SECURE THE PUP NEAR THE FAMILY

You want to keep the pup in a room with a family member. Mastiffs need to be near their family members.

*FOOD

Find out what kind of food the shelter/rescue/breeder was feeding the pup and continue to feed it to the pup until you transition to a newer food, if you want. Most shelters/rescues use the cheapest food, meaning it is not very good for the pup.

Slow transition to the new food is as follows to prevent diarrhea. If at any time during the transition, the pup has diarrhea return to previous amounts of food per feeding. If you are switching flavors made by the same manufacturer, you should not have to do a slow transition.

Amount per feeding:

Day 1-4 ¾ cup of old food and ¼ cup of new food.

Day 5-9 ½ cup of old food and ½ cup of new food.

Day 10-14 ¾ cup of new food and ¼ cup of old food

Day 15 Start 100% of new food

Generally, mastiffs are allergic to grain and chicken found in kibble. You can check www.dogfoodadvisor.com for dog food ratings and customer feedback. Mastiff puppies should eat Large Breed puppy food and they can continue to eat the food all of their lives or you can switch them to a Large Breed Adult Food at about 8-10 months.


http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/05/31/large-dog-feeding-mistakes.aspx

You may want to check out the raw diet for your pup. Check out the sub forum on raw diet that has a wealth of information. It is not recommended to feed the pup kibble and raw food. Dr. Becker talks about this in one of her videos.

Check out Dr. Becker*s videos on youtube.com for a lot of great information regarding the raw diet. Here is Part 1 there are 3 parts to the series. Well worth the time to watch the videos.

[video=youtube;Qx2YIIpF4cc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx2YIIpF4cc[/video]

*PUP NOT EATING WHEN YOU FIRST BRING THEM HOME

They not used to their new environment and this is a natural behavior. Take the pup to a quiet place at meal times and sit and hand feed the pup. This will help the pup to eat when they are placed in a calm atmosphere, help you to bond with the pup and helps the pup establish trust with you. As they become settled, they will naturally follow your routine.

*PROTECT THE PUP FROM DISEASE

Keep the pup in your yard and place newspapers down where they will walk on the ground. Keep the pup away from dog areas unless they have had their 2nd set of shots, leaving the pup prone to infection with Parvo or other illnesses. This is very important!

*HOUSE TRAINING YOUR PUP

http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/house-training-your-puppy

*SOCIALIZE, SOCIALIZE AND SOCIALIZE SOME MORE

Socialize after they*ve had at least 2 round of shots preferably 3 rounds of shots to be safe. Prior to the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] or 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots, keep the pup in your own yard. If that is not possible, bring newspapers with you for the pup to walk on. Avoid dog parks and areas with heavy traffic of animals.

*TEETHING

The pup will chew on anything they can find unless you re-direct the chewing. Provide frozen washcloths or small towels, nylabones, ropes, deer antlers, Kongs with frozen yogurt so they can chew to their heart*s desire. Some people use boxes, be aware that the pup will chew all boxes.

*TRAINING YOUR PUP

Start basic commands and reward with motivational treats (fav food or fav toy). Train for about 5 minutes per day and slowly increase the training time. Teach one command at a time. Once they master one command, move onto another command.


Number one command is sit. Teach the pup to sit, by placing a treat in front of his head and move it to the back causing him to sit to get the treat. When the pup sits, tell them good sit and give them the treat.

Second command should be "focus/look" This will help you tremendously when the pup is over 100 lbs. Put the pup into sit. With a treat in your hand (let the pup smell it), put the treat up to your eyes and tell the pup to look or focus. They may only do this for about 1-2 seconds. As soon as they look at your eyes, tell them good look or good focus and give the treat. Generally, mastiffs do not like to look anyone in the eyes for long because that means a challenge to them. Titan is up to 55 seconds of looking me in the eyes.

Other commands are "down/off", "leave it," "wait" (short pause), "stay" (pausing until you release) and "quiet/calm".

When you are training and when the pup does not do as you ask, then tell him no in a calm, stern voice and redirect back to the command. The only time a stern and loud NO should be used is when they are doing something that can cause harm to themselves or others.


Praise is the most powerful tool you have and the dog WANTS to please you. Show them clearly what you want, notice and praise when they comply, and learning goes much faster and pleasant for you both.

Mastiffs can be extremely stubborn and if you get frustrated with them, they will shut down. Mastiffs do not do well with yelling or hitting. Hitting can result in some unwanted mastiff behavior meaning fear aggression, which equals biting.

*LEASH TRAINING

Your pup will most likely not like the leash. Have the pup wear it around the house for a few hours each day and reward when the pup wears the leash with no issues.

If the dog pulls, do not walk until they stop and turn to look at you, then thank
them and start walking again. If they nip, put them away from you so they don't get attention--don't make it a game.


*PUPPY BITING/NIPPING/AROUND CHILDREN

Do not allow children and pup on the floor together. Pup will see them as playmates and nip at them. Picture the pup playing with their siblings.

Keep the pup on leash while the children are on the floor so you can have control of the pup. Pup and children should not be allowed to play alone.

If you puppy is biting/nipping, then try the following. This behavior can sometimes take a lot of patience and consistency in training.

They bite because that is how they played with their siblings.
When they bite, tell them “OW” in a high-pitched voice and “NO” in a stern, calm voice. NEVER HIT OR YELL AT A MASTIFF. They will shut down on you and ignore you.

When the pup stops biting, tell them to sit and reward. Tell him “good sit.”

Have the children hand fed the pup and help with training, i.e. teach the pup to sit, stay and come. This helps the pup to see them as non-playmates but as people in authority. These activities are great bonding exercises.

*EXERCISE

Puppies can exercise with natural movements and free play like running, stretching, playing on soft surfaces (grass and dirt). This type of exercise is actually healthy and good for their developing bodies but they do need to be able to pace themselves.

Structured exercise/play on hard surfaces and where they don't have they ability to pace themselves is where you need to be very careful. This type of exercise could harm the pup*s joints and bones. Puppies should not do any excessive exercise, i.e. walking, jumping, running and navigate stairs for the first 12 months to avoid injury.

Stairs should be maneuvered while on leash (even in the house) especially going down the stairs. Stairs should have carpet or rubber matting to give the pup traction. Mastiffs should be assisted up and down stairs until they are about age 12 months to prevent injury.

Most mastiffs can be very lazy but they still need to exercise. Generally, the amount of time to exercise is 5 minutes per each month of age.

*YOUR PUP AND HEAT (NOT THE FEMALE HEAT)

Remember, mastiffs do not tolerate heat. In the heat, reduce walk/exercise times. Have clean water available at all times. I freeze towels to either place on Titan or put on the floor for him to lie on in the summer to cool him off. Buy a kiddies* pool for the pup to play in to keep cool.

*DE-SEXING YOUR PUP

Mastiffs should not be neutered/spayed until 18 months to 2 years. NO MATTER what the vet says. Early neutering can cause growth problems and health issues.

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Enjoy your baby! Have lots of patience! The pup will reward you with love and loyalty!
 

TBT2019

Well-Known Member
Handsome puppy. You've already got some great advice on here. You can go crazy reading so much. We had our Major on Blue Buffalo lg breed puppy, but he was gaining weight to rapidly. The puppy food had too much protein so we switched him to the large breed grain free adult and he is gaining 2-4 lbs per week. There is a growth chart that was posted awhile back on the forum and if you scroll through you will see that most everyones posts vary. My Major is 24 weeks and weighs in at 84+ lbs. His dad is two and is currently 165lbs. (Mom is 110) So it will be exciting to see if he turns out bigger than dad or somewhere in between. Have fun, take lots of pics and try to take one regularly in the same spot so you can see his growth. Best companion we have ever had. Good luck
 

natuan257

Member
Tks musicdeb. I read your post very carefully and it's really helpful to me, thank you so much. And in your opinion, what is the best way to teach puppy to be calm?
 

natuan257

Member
Tks a lot TBT2019. I'm confused abt the food for puppy, the breeder of my dog said that dry food is rubbish and he just recommend raw meat and vegetable. But, lots of people talk to me that raw food dont include something in dry food that make the dog's skin be better and something else. So i mix raw meat with a dry product called complete mix. Do u have any knowledge abt this issue, pls let me know ur opinion, tks so much.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Tks musicdeb. I read your post very carefully and it's really helpful to me, thank you so much. And in your opinion, what is the best way to teach puppy to be calm?
Your welcome, natuan257. Teach the pup the word "calm." I taught Titan the word, "calm" for when he gets the zoomies after he eats. It's best to keep the pup calm and quiet at least an hour after eating to help prevent bloat.

I hold my hand up like to show stop and say "calm" in a calm voice. The pup picks up on your tone and your body language. Reward the pup when he "calms" down with a motivational reward.

Remember, when training a pup it takes consistency in training with motivational rewards and LOTS of patience.
 
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musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Tks a lot TBT2019. I'm confused abt the food for puppy, the breeder of my dog said that dry food is rubbish and he just recommend raw meat and vegetable. But, lots of people talk to me that raw food dont include something in dry food that make the dog's skin be better and something else. So i mix raw meat with a dry product called complete mix. Do u have any knowledge abt this issue, pls let me know ur opinion, tks so much.
Some dry food is rubbish and raw is the optimal nutrition for a dog if the raw diet is done correctly. Titan is fed raw diet and has done very well on the diet. Watch the Dr Becker videos I posted in the previous post. Read the Raw Food Diets sub forum under Health and Nutrition.

Dr Becker states in the video by feeding the dog both raw meat and dry food confuses the dog's digestive system. Either feed dry food or raw meat but not both. On the forum, there a few members who feed both dry food and raw meat.

What it boils down too, is do what you feel is best for your dog and for you. Feed raw diet is not as simple as opening a bag of dog food. Raw diet requires a lot of preparation and it can be costly depending on where you live.
 

TBT2019

Well-Known Member
Tks a lot TBT2019. I'm confused abt the food for puppy, the breeder of my dog said that dry food is rubbish and he just recommend raw meat and vegetable. But, lots of people talk to me that raw food dont include something in dry food that make the dog's skin be better and something else. So i mix raw meat with a dry product called complete mix. Do u have any knowledge abt this issue, pls let me know ur opinion, tks so much.

I do not have experience with the raw diet, but there are many on the forum who do. I personally don't know that one is better than the other. I have friends with mastiffs who have even fed their animals a cheaper brand of food and they have grown up to be beautiful dogs with great coats and no problems. I think if you do decide to go with a dry kibble, definitely give him a high quality food. Nothing from the grocery store. The only time I give Major any table food (chicken and white rice) if his tummy is upset from eating grass or leaves/sticks outside. Honestly this dog would eat anything. He finally realized rocks aren't crunchy and spits them out. LOL Sorry the exception to that is I will give him pieces of carrot and green beans for a treat or ice. Like I said the dog would eat anything. Just remember that what works for one dog may not work for another. I would research the raw diet if thats what your planning to do and make sure that you are giving your dog all the essential nutrients he needs to grow and be strong. :)
 

hdlayton

Member
Good looking dog. Love the shot on the rock. Weight question: Not sure of the "standard" but my male is 40 pounds at 13 weeks old. Hope that helps.
 

Siloh

Well-Known Member
Tks musicdeb. I read your post very carefully and it's really helpful to me, thank you so much. And in your opinion, what is the best way to teach puppy to be calm?

I'm sorry guys. I know, all the Tab Shamsi...

Natuan, here are some videos that I think might be helpful. They are very simple and clear how-tos for positive reinforcement methods of sculpting and fostering good behaviors.

How To Train Calmness in Dogs! (Part I) - YouTube

How To Train Calmness In Dogs (Part II) - YouTube

How To Train A Dog To Settle Down / Relax - YouTube

He doesn't really go into massage, but I find that it is most effective for calming purposes to very gently massage in little circles with your four fingers in a slow and rhythmic motion. Just the switch from stroking to gently rubbing down the dog when it is in a calm state seems to elicit a more calm and meaningful state of mind in me. Of course, every dog is a bit different and what calms them best may vary.

Good luck! He's so cute.


"Nothing is neither good nor bad, but thinking makes it so."
Hamlet Prince of Denmark
 

Siloh

Well-Known Member
Post script (edit time elapsed...):
If this is your first time owning a dog, I think this guy's videos are an excellent starting point. I considered myself highly knowledgable with dogs before I got my mastiff mix and began diving into information (here and elsewhere) about more recent and effective dog training techniques. He is really the tip of the conditioning iceberg to me as far as other training videos go, but I just feel he gives a super solid foundation for how to increase criteria slowly and set your dog up for success in a way that couldn't be clearer. A lot of the stuff I bumped into later might not have made as much sense or been as helpful without understanding a lot of these sort of basic tenants Tab gives.


"Nothing is neither good nor bad, but thinking makes it so."
Hamlet Prince of Denmark
 

natuan257

Member
Good looking dog. Love the shot on the rock. Weight question: Not sure of the "standard" but my male is 40 pounds at 13 weeks old. Hope that helps.

Tks guy. It the same with my puppy. Im very confused because im lving in Aus now and lots of bully in here look like bigger than my dog. But my dog's father is imported form Uk and his mother is Aus, so i think may be there is some special issue :p