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I have a stud

I am looking to stud my four year old male. He's absolutely handsome (of course I am partial). Last weight was 208. I had all the breeding tests run on him and have his papers and pedigree. I am waiting on the OFA paperwork to come back but I have a copy of the XRAYs on a disk.

I am not sure how to go about finding a female. Could I get some guidance?
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Why do you want to breed him? What qualities does he have that make it worth someone's time, money and effort to consider him as stud?
 
HAHAHA! Let me help you with a picture!

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He's perfect with children, intelligent, great stature, loyal, my best friend and look at that head! He is everything that embodies the standard of an english mastiff. I never had intentions of breeding him but kept him in tact to allow him to grow. Then my vet asked me why I had not studded him out. He himself owns two mastiffs. We went through all the testing.

I am sure everyone thinks this that has a mastiff, but I really do have the perfect mastiff specimen. I actually would like to have one of his offspring for myself. He is one of three EM I have owned.

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Sorry that sounded kinda cocky but I have a great love and respect for this breed and would not have spent almost $1000 on testing if I did not care to continue on perfection in the breed. He really is a sweet healthy beautiful boy.
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Wich tests did you have done? Are his parents and grand parents tested?

Although I can understand why you think he's awesome I'd want to see something else. An AKC or UKC (if you're in the states) or at least points heading for one. Or proof of working ability.

Do you know anything about the breed standard? Do you know how he stands up to it?

Without those about the only breeders who'd be willing to breed to him are essentially BYBs. And frankly the world has more than enough mastiff pups coming from BYBs as it is.

You can TRY contacting the national breed club, for a list of breeders in your area. And try contacting them about breeding your boy. If he's NOT headed for a championship then you want a bitch who has hers. Who has conformation thats strong where his is weak. A breeder who's also done all the health testing on her bitch. A breeder who's prepared to deal with any problems that may arrise during pregnancy and who's prepared to keep any pups who don't find homes or who are returned later in life. Since you're the one initiating the breeding you need to be prepared to share any medical costs the bitch may incure, to assist in housing any pups who don't immediately find homes, and potentially be able to assist in housing any pups who come back.
 

SavingGrace

Well-Known Member
I have to agree with everyone who's posted. Seeing as how I'm completely obsessed with my dogs I can understand the thought to breed and keep an offspring - however there are so many things that go into breeding there's no way I would attempt to do it unless I already had a reputable member of the breed coaching me. Even then, I personally wouldn't be interested.

As someone who's gone through something very difficult with what I would consider a BYB - I would make sure to not only have every single one of my tests done, I would have the research for the grandparents done and I would research the heck out of whoever was to breed with my boy. We've had 2 CC's now, and personally I would leave the breeding to those that have much more experience than me or be seriously financially ready to back up your litter if something were to happen.
 

fila4me

Well-Known Member
HAHAHA! Let me help you with a picture!

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He's perfect with children, intelligent, great stature, loyal, my best friend and look at that head! He is everything that embodies the standard of an english mastiff. I never had intentions of breeding him but kept him in tact to allow him to grow. Then my vet asked me why I had not studded him out. He himself owns two mastiffs. We went through all the testing.

I am sure everyone thinks this that has a mastiff, but I really do have the perfect mastiff specimen. I actually would like to have one of his offspring for myself. He is one of three EM I have owned.

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what's up with his backend or is it just the angle and his stance?also, his front feet?
 

fila4me

Well-Known Member
this is a perfect specimen of an EM.
Oliver is Number one Mastiff 2013, all breed BIS , Mastiff club of America BOB under Dr.Bill Newman.
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Iymala

Well-Known Member
what's up with his backend or is it just the angle and his stance?also, his front feet?

He is cow hocked and has weak pasterns causing an incorrect paw. He should have tight "cat feet". He looks a bit straight in the front and it may be an illusion due to the stripes and angle of the picture but looks high in the rear.

He is a good looking pet. I can understand wanting to have a progeny of your heart dog, but I believe you need to have a better understanding of the breed standard and be honest about your dogs faults. No dog is perfect...even champions...but good breeders try to make pairings that compliment each others strengths and weaknesses. A good breeder is the FIRST to point out their dogs faults and try to avoid kennel blindness.

It's great you are health testing with OFAs and that is a great start. I would look into working with a reputable mentor in English Mastiff breeding that can help you evaluate your dog and suggest pairings that would be a betterment to the breed with future endeavors.
 

fila4me

Well-Known Member
He is amazing. I love his chest and neck.
she said he was very tense and stressed.not even a week before ,Oliver and couple other show dogs,plus my friend and her personal dogs(em's and dogos)were in a horrific accident.my friend,the handler, had a broken back in the pic and didn't know.this was her rv after the accident,so Oliver was still very worried and more so about her!!rv.jpg
 

Iymala

Well-Known Member
Wow that is horrific. Amazing tenacity on both your friends part and Oliver shown to go on to win BOB at national specialty so soon after.
 

WalnutCrest

Well-Known Member
My bitch, Jade, was on the RV with Oliver. She took her class at the National Specialty (although she didn't take WB or RWB).

Earlier this year, Jade whelped a litter of two lovely little girls sired by Oliver's dad, Zahar.
 

WalnutCrest

Well-Known Member
Now, onto the point of this thread ... given the long list of very nice (deceased) boys on ice and the long list of very nice (living) boys, both domestically and internationally, the chances are quite high that the boy owned by the OP should not be bred. The best determination of this should not be made by a vet who owns mastiffs who'd stand to benefit if he were involved in collecting semen, doing an AI and/or whelping a litter.

Attend a half-dozen dog shows ... get a private audience with a couple of breed-specialist judges ... show him to a few private breeders who are members of a local breed club and/or the MCOA. Maybe, you should hire a professional handler and enter him into 10-15 dog shows to see how he stacks up against some of the nicer specimens in the breed. Read the standard twice a day for a month and find and watch all of the videos of Mastiffs on YouTube that were uploaded by Old School Mastiffs.

...after you do this, come back to us...

You may have the most awesome DOG in the world ... but, even if he has the best personality and has passed all his testing does not (unfortunately) make him the most awesome MASTIFF in the world.