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Reputable Cane Corso Breeders in Texas?

I was under the assumption that it was against the rules of most forums to "drag in" dirt from other forums? Even if it is not my PERSONAL and political opinions about social issues are not relevant to the questions I was asking.

I do NOT purchase dogs on a whim and have been doing research as well as mentally preparing myself for months before I even started making it known that I was considering a Corso.

Thank you all for your help and advice, but I think it would be more productive for me if I did research on my own.

Thank you all again for your time.
 
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cinnamon roll

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Against the rules to warn people so that our beloved breeds don't end up in the wrong hands? Thanks to everyone for letting us know about this.
 

HayleyMarie

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That's kind of a loaded question, why does anyone "need" any breed? Your fila is your first fila, everyone has to have a "firt in everything. I want one because I like them as a DOG, not because I want a big scary dog or a mean aggressive dog. I love how they bond with their people and love you like no other.

I have spent time soul searching and I want to the all breed dog show that was recently here and that's where I got to meet the Corso breed (as well as some dogs in person) and was able to have a very long and enlightening conversation with some breed reps about me, AND my mild anxiety. It's not like I go into a panic attack in social situations. I only get anxious in restaurant or environments like Walmart, both of which I will not have a dog with me anyway.

The dog in question that doesn't get along with other dogs actually doesn't get along with ONE dog, a long term foster we have here that is the only dog she has not gotten along with to date, for some reason they don't like each other ... They have since been separated.

FYI Panzer is a Boerboel not a Fila. Yes, Panzer is my first Boerboel, but I have a reason for him. He is a working dog and will be used as an alert system and protection as well as a family pet. And I've done extensive research for 4 years before I took the plunge. If you want a CC one of the reasons should be because they are protective. Because that is what you will be dealing with. And IMO if you want a submissive CC, then maybe the breed in not for you. The breed by nature is protective and more on the dominant side. Or are you meaning Biddable? Are you willing to deal with Crate and rotate if you CC reaches maturity and decides it wants to eat the other dogs in your household of the same sex?

What happens if you take your dog into lowes or home depo and people rush you with questions and you get nervous. Your dog will feel that tension and react accordingly. I am not meaning to jump on you, but these are honest questions you need to ask yourself.
 
Look, I just wanted to say this: I know that some people have issues with me because of my political and social opinions but that doesn't effect the way I treat my dogs. I know I have never owned a large molosser before but that doesn't mean I am a stranger to sharp, hard or difficult dogs with little or no handler forgiveness. My training regime consists of NILF with lots of positive reinforcement and association between me and the dogs. The dogs respect me but don't fear me, they listen because they WANT to and because it is rewarding to do so. I have consulted a trainer in the past when I had an issue that I felt was beyond my "expertise" and I would not hesitate to do it again if I needed to.

I am not looking for "wash and wear" dogs, I spend over half the day outside with my dogs and they are a part of EVERYTHING I do, whether its activities directly related to them, or whether it is jogging, or just yard work. For me spending time with my dogs is not a chore, it's my release.

That is all, thank you for your time.
 

khplaw

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Not having met you personally, nor read anything on any other forum written by, or about you, I would like to offer the following comments. Let me also mention that I have a law degree though am not a licensed attorney at this time, and can speak to other elements of this issue as well. Bear with me please.

One of the first requirement of owning a corso is understanding the mental discipline that is required of the OWNER as well as the dog. Same requirements, same commands, same expectations, over and over and over without deviance. It is not always convenient to be patient and yet disciplined but it is necessary. Hitting a corso will not get the response you are looking for; it will slowly build intense resentment. Think ahead for some creative discipline.

Dominance is bred into the Corso, and you will be dealing with that issue, in some form, every day. You MUST be on top of them in a firm manner, but also kindly. Because you have dealt with other "hard or difficult dogs" does NOT qualify you to own a corso. Just because someone once rode a pony at a birthday party does NOT make them qualified to jump a 6 foot fence in the Olympics. There are many subtle, and not so subtle difference inherent in the corso as a breed.

The first thing to be aware of is that their default response to ALL new people and ALL new situations is suspicion, which can be expressed in many ways. You will have to work to overcome that FIRST before getting to anything else; not just once, but in every new situation and with every new person. Actually, one of the FIRST changes you should make is contacting your insurance carrier to see if there is an increase in premium for owning one of these dogs. Failing to carry proper insurance can cost you not just your dog (to euthanasia), but your home; any and every asset that can be liquidated to pay a judgment against you for personal harm, injury or damage. And yes, it will go just like that.

These dogs read you like a book. It is up to you as the owner to have properly instructed your dog, keep a roving eye for potential problems, in the home, outside the home, everywhere. Bringing a corso into a home with other animals or children ups the ante.

In chatting with other corso owners they indicate that when they are in a bad mood, so are their dogs. I have found this to be true. Same when they are in a good mood. So how YOU feel is entirely germaine to dealing with your dog. These are also the most attentive dogs; I recently was developing a migraine headache which eventually caused me to go to the ER, and my corso just KNEW there was something wrong and kept pestering me to get up and tell someone. In a suit for personal injury, for instance, a good attorney can delve into your background, discover "an issue" and run with it. For instance"...if you knew you experience panic attacks (insert whatever issue you have here) then why did you obtain an animal you knew you did not possess the mental capacity to control?" And yes, it will go just like that; that's where I would take it.

And if you are not taking the dog into situations where you experience these panic attacks, then conceivably the dog is only meant for protection? Then why a mossler breed at all? A GSP is another good choice, if all you are looking for is an "alarm" dog. Or any mid sized terrier, say a Boston or Schnauzer. You mention that you spend a good deal of your day out of doors; how do you plan to maintain control of your young corso? Or protect the other animal or child members of your household from being subjected to corso domination? It is one thing to read about these things, and an entirely other thing dealing with them.

I used to retrain mentally damaged/traumatized horses that outweighed me 150-1, then at age 47 I took on law school and graduated, and I thought that was hard. Even after all that I thought long and hard before committing to this breed. I may not be the smartest person on the planet but I do know that I cannot muscle down a 125 pound dog that wants to be somewhere else any more than I can put an 1800 pound horse down physically. It takes forethought, foresight and proper training to be able to effectively manage any sentient being. For instance, I trained in a command into my corso that I didn't think I would ever use, for emergencies, and I used it and it worked. It is that kind of forethought that will be required. Then being able to recognize when to use it and do all this in a split second or less.

I suspect, in reading this thread, that you have heard all this before. So I have to ask myself, why are you really limiting your search to Texas? Have other breeders refused to sell you a dog? Is that what makes them disreputable breeders in you mind?

I know that breeders are looking to build this breed into something safe and dependable, not intimidating and reckless. The application process itself seems tedious but is very necessary. If you are not completely honest with the breeder, you are placing them as well as yourself in danger physically and potentially legally. in the event an owner is sued, there may also be an attempt to sue the breeder of the dog, and these applications ask many important questions in the event a lawsuit against the breeder may arise. Even hold harmless agreements may require defending on the part of the breeder, which is costly as well!

You will not be able to control a corso with a shock collar or a prong collar, which btw break at the most inopportune times, physical pain doesn't phase them when they are intent on doing something. Emotional inconsistency will cripple a corso and make it the most dangerous animal you will ever see. Indecisiveness on the part of an owner will confuse and potentially anger a corso, forcing it to go to their default behavior.

I would be more than happy to chat with you if you want to PM me your number. I would urge you most ferverently to reconsider a cane corso as a choice for you. I seriously doubt that all the posters, both here and on other forums, would take the time or effort just to be malicious or vindictive. Perhaps try to see it more as wise counsel. After all, we all learn from each other's experiences, right?

And from a legal standpoint, just the information on this and presumable other forums would likely provide the requirements to obtain a subpoena for other discoverable records. It costs just as much to prove your innocence as it does to defend if you are guilty.
 

khplaw

Well-Known Member
Another thought; issuing thinly veiled allegations against other posters for being potentially out to get you or prevent you from getting a corso. No one can prevent you if you are determined enough. However, I seriously doubt all these people would take the time and effort to respond to YOUR requests for information for any propose other than to prevent you the potential heartache at the loss of your dog, and the financial devastation that can accompany that loss.
 
I don't have to worry about people or neighbors because I live out in the middle of no where. Home owners insurance has no breed restrictions. I wanted to go with a Texas breeder because that's where I am and since this would be my first of this breed, I don't feel comfortable buying sight unseen. I haven't even starting contacting breeders yet.

But everyone has to start somewhere. everyone here had a first mastiff and a first in multiple types of mastiffs. No one starts out as an expert.
 
Thank you to everyone who offered their advice. I have been talking with Khplaw and I am now almost 100% sure that a Corso is NOT the dog for me. But I appreciate everyone's advice and putting up with me. I still love mastiffs and would still like to remain a member of this forum, if for nothing else, for the information that can be found here.

I know that a lot of members were under the assumption that I was he'll bend in getting a Corso no matter what and I wan to stress that that was never the case.
 

khplaw

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It was a pleasure speaking with you. Sometimes what is lacking on these message boards is any sense of personalism. I am grateful that you asked all your questions and that I was able to answer many of them, and fill in the blanks as someone who owns a corso and knows first hand the differences. Please do let us all know what breed you choose to go with; I am sure you will find another dog who will be just as devoted and loving as a corso, without all the worries!

And as always, we are ALL here to help out and answer questions; some of us have other dogs as well. Just ask! Have a good night!:)
 
No, after an extensive conversation with khplaw, I have decided to go with another breed when it is time for a new pup, given my living arrangements and the fact that I have dogs of mixed sexes.

I am very grateful to her for actually trying to help me instead of accusing me of being an irresponsible person who is bound and determined do acquire a CC at all cost, as this was not the case. I merely came on here looking for information about the breed so I could make an informed decision ... Which I have now done, thanks to her.

I still respect them as a breed though.
 
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