SOS- need some fence advice

[Big Mutt Luva]

I'm new to the forum and any forum, ever. I've enjoyed and learned so much from everybody's experiences. I'm looking for some fence advice. Despite having a nearly 6 figure secure fence (cost wise), due to some neighbor hostility issues I am building a new site for my dogs on another property. It is large acreage, and I am building a cabin and dog suite with fenced yards for the dogs (where they will be when I'm not home). My 3 yo cane corso is the one that gives me fence worries. He is too smart, stubborn and strong for anyone's good. I don't trust electric fences with such large dogs (bad past experiences). My current fence is wrought iron, but the kennel inside is hurricane (wire) fencing which he has penetrated more than once. I have been told that the 9 gauge should be sufficient if we "beef it up" with closer post spacing and cattle panels on the ground. However, I really need peace of mind that the dog cannot get out when I'm not home. I have pretty much decided on a double fence and am looking for advice. I am considering a 6 foot 9 gauge "beefed up" hurricane fence, with a smaller 3 or 4 foot interior perimeter fence (really just something to keep him off the other fence). Possibly a second hurricane fence, or spaced picket vinyl or wood fence. Does anyone have experience with this? Is there a better suggestion? Optimal spacing? I would like it close enough to prevent him from getting between the fences and working on the hurricane fence, but am a little concerned it could be used as a stepping stone to climb the taller fence (although I haven't seen him climb). Any ideas? Thx-

 

[Hector]

You can't keep him in the house?

 

[teodora]

We had to change fences more than once - I had to keep them crated in the house when i'm not home - and Jack on long leash attached to me when outside, for training purposes.

 

[Big Mutt Luva]

Typically the dogs are inside when we are, and during inclement weather when we r gone. Most days they are outside in their dog yard while we r at work (it's pretty plush). We live on some acreage and unless u r on my property they can't even been seen in that yard.UNFORTUNATELY, I believe there is a bit of breedism here. Most of the neighbors have small dogs that they don't think the leash laws apply to. There was a terrible incident where one of their dogs died, and they believe it was my dogs because they don't know anyone else with these "viscious dogs". They have collectively demanded the dogs be removed from the neighborhood, and several have bore false witness to create a scenario where they can press criminal charges against us if we don't comply. Legally we are in the right, and can fight and win. However, I fear that because they allow their dogs and cats to freely roam (including all over my property) and we live in a heavily wooded area, the next time a coyote or other animal gets hold of one of their animals they will blame us and have no qualms about falsifying information to make charges against us. SOOOO...I have decided that I will have the most peace in my heart if we spend more of our time in the doggy haven I am building, where they can run the yard freely.But I need a really good fence

 

[teodora]

I'm in the same position - small dogs roaming free or on my property and my "menacing" dogs a danger - bs. Fortunately Jack sorted it just eyeballing him - without touching the small dog (he was on leash) and from that moment I haven't seen the intruder again.

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[Oscar'sMom]

What if you left them inside when you are gone that way nobody will blame you because your dogs are inside. is he crate trained?

 

[Big Mutt Luva]

After the complaints we kept them inside exclusively and only took them out to our dog yard supervised. Nobody can even see them when they r there because we live on some acreage. They were not satisfied. They think we run a dog fighting ring over here or something I think! They began moaning 10 years ago when we first moved in and had some new puppies. This is more about vindication, ego and magical thinking. Either way, I still need a place where they can play, run and exercise, with a secure fence. The one we have now works fine (wrought iron),I was just hoping to not have to drop such a large chunk of change AGAIN if there is a less expensive alternative. in the past when I didn't have two nickels to run together, I had a dog that loved to bust some fences. I double sided the wooden fence, and every weekend had to replace boards until I finally lined the inside fence with a chicken wire fence. That's why I'm thinking about a double fence. Maybe the 9 gauge 6 foot hurricane lines at the bottom 4 feet with a horizontal wooden ranch fence? For the sake of the dogs I think it's best. I had a friend recently had to put her dog down over similar nonsense.

 

[Big Mutt Luva]

After the complaints we kept them inside exclusively and only took them out to our dog yard supervised. Nobody can even see them when they r there because we live on some acreage. They were not satisfied. They think we run a dog fighting ring over here or something I think! They began moaning 10 years ago when we first moved in and had some new puppies. This is more about vindication, ego and magical thinking. Either way, I still need a place where they can play, run and exercise, with a secure fence. The one we have now works fine (wrought iron),I was just hoping to not have to drop such a large chunk of change AGAIN if there is a less expensive alternative. in the past when I didn't have two nickels to run together, I had a dog that loved to bust some fences. I double sided the wooden fence, and every weekend had to replace boards until I finally lined the inside fence with a chicken wire fence. That's why I'm thinking about a double fence. Maybe the 9 gauge 6 foot hurricane lines at the bottom 4 feet with a horizontal wooden ranch fence? For the sake of the dogs I think it's best. I had a friend recently had to put her dog down over similar nonsense.

 

[TricAP]

Years ago I had a doberman that sounds a lot like your corso. She could escape from anything and love to chase the cattle we had at the time as well as our neighbors. We ended up using cattle panels to make "runs" that were about 30 ft long. Top, bottom and sides wired together in a long box. We buried the bottom panels under about 6 inches of dirt and then gravel so she couldn't dig out. We used pressure treated posts set in concrete for the corners and where the panels joined together and attached with 3 inch fence staples. Cross pieces to support the top were pressure treated 2 x 4's.

Currently we have neighbors that sound a lot like yours. We spent $20,000 on a 6 foot cedar fence that surrounds our acre house yard - we call it the stockade. Neighbors can't see in and dogs can't get out. With that said we don't leave them outside if we aren't at home, even in our rural area dogs have been stolen from fenced areas and vindictive neighbors have let others out.

 

[DennasMom]

I'd invest in a camera security system and film all fence lines and the house... then if they want to press charges, you have proof of your dogs being IN the yard and NOT menacing them...

 

[Big Mutt Luva]

Yes we have some security cameras which helps. I think I will use the cattle panels on the bottom- we have in the past and that seems to help. Good points about being stolen or let out- we have a fence within a fence currently so I forgot about that. This reminds me of the ever important lesson of "the walking dead"- the real threat to humanity are humans haha. The new property is about 100 acres- hopefully the neighbors will be scarce. I'll have to think on that because there will definitely be times they are in the yard and unattended. Thx for the advice.