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These are some big dogs!

grazefull1

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i dont know about u but they seen abit over weight to me n not a musclar build more like a neo bulid but thats just me
 

ravendarat

Well-Known Member
The father and mother of my pup are both from Rockport stock, he seems like a real solid dog so far but yes the Rockport dogs to me do seem like they are a bit overweight.
 

grazefull1

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well im just saying there over feeding there dogs lol ur dog will stay solid as long as u know what his body firm should look like lol:p supa size isnt always better
 

joshuagough

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Those dogs have a huge bone structure not many of them look overweight to me, most are the prototype of the true EM.

Good examples of the standard & what a EM should reflect.
 

grazefull1

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well if the start to melt than we have a problem lol
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grazefull1

Well-Known Member
Those dogs have a huge bone structure not many of them look overweight to me, most are the prototype of the true EM.

Good examples of the standard & what a EM should reflect.

also what is the ture EM? cuz ive seen documentry that says oversize isnt good ? ill will try to find it
 

tojvan

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also what is the ture EM? cuz ive seen documentry that says oversize isnt good ? ill will try to find it
Bigger is definitely isn't better after a certain point and these dogs are too big, disgusting what some people have done to the EM for money and mainstreaming. Sorry i didn't mean to offend anyone.
 

tojvan

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Any EM lover would appreciate this documentary some of the greatest minds on the breed
[video=youtube;EW5ts7_XKas]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW5ts7_XKas[/video]
 

NeSaxena

Well-Known Member
Yeah, agreed they're really big, but when I look at their legs and paws, it looks like there's a whole lot more pressure on it that the dogs are comfy with.. especially when I saw that one picture of one of them jumping (sorry, I couldn't figure which one), my heart almost stopped! An (to my eyes) overweight OEM jumping high and is gonna land on its feet? Brrrrrrr :scared2:

And looking at their contract, I can figure why they're as big as they are....
 

grazefull1

Well-Known Member
thanks tojvan thats the one i was looking for i agree EM can still be huge but with balance if that can but done than by all means continue but if not stop for the shake of the dog
 

Smokeycat

Well-Known Member
They look oversize to me and with that are loosing some of the definition that makes a dog look healthy to me. Most appear to be lacking a tuck up and that to me makes them look overweight even in the few where you cod see rib definition.
 

Rugers-Kris

Well-Known Member
I just looked at them for the first time as I have started looking for a new puppy. Those dogs look overweight and unhealthy to me. Just my opinion but they don't represent a giant, healthy, active English Mastiff. This sounds stupid but they look unhappy. :-/
 

ruthcatrin

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I am not a fan of Rockport Mastiffs or their dogs. I am not 100% sure but I don't think they do health testing.

I didn't check every single dog (male and female) on their site, but the ones with their kennel name that are listed on their site, are NOT listed in the OFA database. Hips coulda been done Pennhip, but everything else has to go OFA as far as I know....

The picture grazefull pulled out, is of a supposedly 2yr old dog. I can't picture the strain on that dog's joints....
 

northernmastiff

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I just looked at them for the first time as I have started looking for a new puppy. Those dogs look overweight and unhealthy to me. Just my opinion but they don't represent a giant, healthy, active English Mastiff. This sounds stupid but they look unhappy. :-/

Nope, I agree with you completely. They don't look happy or healthy.
 

Rugers-Kris

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We all know that I got Ruger from what is considered a BYB but I have to tell you, thier dogs looked healthy and happy.....They were just beautiful and well cared for. Rugers dad was 260 pounds and did not have an ounce of fat on him. I hate to see dogs that appear uncomfortable in thier own bodies and overweight. :-(
Nope, I agree with you completely. They don't look happy or healthy.
 

northernmastiff

Well-Known Member
I know. There are breeders that say they have heavy dogs when all they have are fat dogs. Big doesn't mean healthy if it is all fat. I wish people would understand that. I had someone bragging to me how big his lab was 130! and when I met the dog, he could barely move. Umm...shed about 40 pounds off that dog at least. I don't think Rockport has very nice looking dogs and they are very arrogant. I sent them a few emails years ago when I was first starting the search. I asked them a lot of questions and they freaked out and told me I was a piece of crap and they could just tell that I was a puppy mill trying to get one of their dogs. So I might be a bit biased when I see their dogs.

This dog was 286 pounds and I think he looks better than a Rockport. Although I think he could have lost a few pounds. I bet 260 he would have looked trim.

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I would take a 200 pound health male over a 260 pound fat and unhappy male any day.