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Why do people hate ear cropping?

Duetsche_Doggen

Well-Known Member
This may be slightly off topic. Do any of you notice that a cropped dogs ears get dirty faster than a non-cropped?

I've had both and to be honest it was about the same :/ it just depends on the dog. Duke ( cropped) and Thor ( natural) had NASTY ears. However both had allergies. Stone who is natural has fairly clean ears. The only time they get dirty is if I don't clean them.

Most are AR folks who humanize animals thus deem it painful, yet have no complaints about mutilating reproductive organs.....

Anyway if I found someone I trusted I would get ears cropped. With the GM I can do either way, but natural ears on a American dane don't look right to me.
 

raji

Well-Known Member
Just a question(no opinion, either way)...why and when did this practice(ear/tail cropping) start?
 

Geisthexe

Banned
Just a question(no opinion, either way)...why and when did this practice(ear/tail cropping) start?

History of Tail Docking & Ear Cropping

Tail docking and ear cropping date to the early Romans, who believed that the practices prevented rabies. During the European Middle Ages, through the end of the 18th century, Lamarck's theory of acquired characteristics was widely accepted. As such, people believed that by docking the tails of the parents, "the new born puppies would look like their parents" and also exhibit short tails. In addition, long-tailed or floppy-eared dogs used for hunting, fighting, or watching flocks were at a greater risk of injury associated with those activities. As such, tails were docked and ears cropped to reduce the number of places another dog or other animal could grab. The owners of working dogs often believed that tail docking reduced a dog's maneuverability, thereby discouraging the dog from chasing game, while the other dog owners often believed that tail docking resulted in a stronger back and increased speed.

Finally, various tax schemes may have accounted for the proliferation of tail docking. In some areas, dogs used for work were not taxed, so the owners of such dogs would dock the tails to indicate that the dog was used for work and not subject to tax. In other areas, farmers were taxed according to the length of their dogs' tails, so docking was used to reduce the tax liability. Moreover, sport hunting was considered to be reserved for the wealthy nobility, and it was believed that only long-tailed dogs were suitable for hunting. As such, the owners of long-tailed dogs were required to pay a high tax and tail docking became a practice of the commoners.
 

Kelly

Well-Known Member
Ha, and the ancient Romans were known for their humane treatment of, oh never mind.

I dont agree with it. Ive read the same book as Cee Cee, actually reading it again for the send time. Dog use their ears, eyes, tails, body language to communicate with each other. I think if you are cropping ears and docking tails, you are running the risk of having a dog who is misunderstood and perhaps picked on by other dogs.

I wouldn't judge anyone else and only offer this opinion as it was requested. Having said all that, I really do like the look. but would never choose to have it done.
 

Geisthexe

Banned
I completely disagree with the statement above bc you can still read cropped ears unless they are a fighting crop .. JMO
 

Einjag

New Member
I think its ok for certain dogs. Dobermans look like bird dogs to me if they aren't cropped,and Canes dont look like they suppose too if they aren't cropped as well. So guess its personal preference.
 

Molosserlvr

Well-Known Member
Most of the people that I come across who hate ear cropping are ignorant of just about everything dog related, so I have a hard time taking them seriously, lol... My personal opinion is that if you don't care for cropping and docking, then don't get into a breed that is traditionally cropped/docked.
 

Duetsche_Doggen

Well-Known Member
Most of the people that I come across who hate ear cropping are ignorant of just about everything dog related, so I have a hard time taking them seriously, lol... My personal opinion is that if you don't care for cropping and docking, then don't get into a breed that is traditionally cropped/docked.

I've been told the reverse form of that statement, get a dog with "pricked" ears, lol. I huge pro-choice, but that day I feel is coming to an end its hard to find a vet that will perform the surgery. Blackshadow has to travel what was it? 11 hours just to get it done?

Crazy.....
 

mx5055

Well-Known Member
Most of the people that I come across who hate ear cropping are ignorant of just about everything dog related, so I have a hard time taking them seriously, lol... My personal opinion is that if you don't care for cropping and docking, then don't get into a breed that is traditionally cropped/docked.

I don't think "ignorant of just about everything dog related" should be used to describe people who don't care for ear cropping; and I feel just as strongly that they have a right to get any dog they choose to get no matter how they feel about ear cropping. I have had boxers most of my life, and when younger and before my children were born I was also involved in breeding and showing; because of this and the time when this was there was never a question in my mind about whether or not to crop....the dogs ears were cropped. Years later (quite a few...lol) when I got my last boxer, I decided not to crop his ears; I had no plans to show him and certainly no plans to breed him. I actually liked the uncropped look on him, and was never sorry that I chose not to crop them. With my new pup, Bella, a cc...well she was 13 weeks when I got her, no papers, no history, certainly no plans to breed her. Even though she was old at 13 weeks, I am sure if I looked hard enough I could have found someone to do the crop. I chose not too....for reasons stated, and fact that I got her purely as a pet....and to me she is one of the most beautiful dogs (so far) that I have ever had the pleasure of owning. Do I like the cc look with the cropped ears? Absolutely! They are great looking dogs and that ear crop when they are done right is "the icing on the cake". I really don't feel this should be such an "issue"....It's like tattoos, tongue piercings, etc....In our society today why should people who don't like cropping be so upset....when humans are doing pretty much the same things to their bodies, and their children's bodies. I just think life is too short to argue about these things....Do what YOU want to do! But then, what do I know? If given the choice to crop vs non-crop I have chosen not too the last couple of times so I am probably just ignorant of just about everything dog related :)
 

Molosserlvr

Well-Known Member
I said "most people that I come across who hate ear cropping are ignorant of just about everything dog related". My post is simply that, what I have experienced and my personal opinion :)
 

xtrain

Member
I have had Rotties with docked tails. Never had an animal with altered ears. I also have had Rotties without docked tails. Tails to me dont make a difference either way docked or not. The ears, however, I have never personally had one. But for my 2 cents. I have seen some that look good and some that dont. I wouldnt mind if I adopted an animal with cropped ears. But personally, I believe that if we want to change a reputation of a "certain breed" (pits) hint hint. Then we should maybe hold off on the cropping because it does, in a way, make them look mean. Of course IMO. And of course if you do have it cropped, have it done by a good vet. We just had a dog in our area that was taken from their owner because they tried it themselves and the poor dog was in very much pain and bleeding.
 

mx5055

Well-Known Member
I said "most people that I come across who hate ear cropping are ignorant of just about everything dog related". My post is simply that, what I have experienced and my personal opinion :)

I have to apologize to you...I even had to laugh at myself this morning when I read what I had written...Things in my personal life haven't been too smooth this last week, and I think I just needed to "vent" about "anything available"...When I reread what I had written I realized that I had argued both sides of the issue..."one woman debate team". I'm sorry I used your quote, it was not necessary and I realize not to be taken personally. I love both the cropped and uncropped looks, and have no problem with people choosing whichever them prefer :)
 

VentiandMe

Well-Known Member
I personally think floppy ears look better on most breeds. So I don't really understand the whole ear cropping thing. I assume the dog is put under some kind of anesthesia when doing this so not sure on how much pain they feel, hopefully not much. I don't believe the dog cares too much though, lol I don't see them looking in the mirror too much primping and worrying about their looks. :D
 

voidecho

Well-Known Member
I don't care if people dock or crop their dogs (if it's done safely and correctly), but I personally prefer the look of dogs that are not cropped or docked. I generally like dogs that look "nice", and cropped ears immediately make me think a dog is "mean". Can't help it, it's just my first thought. There are some beautiful CC and Presas on here that are cropped and docked, but I won't dock or crop any dog I get, even if I decided on a Corso at some point.
 

kbuchanan66

Well-Known Member
I love the look of cropped ears. I have never owned a breed that was suppose to be cropped....oh wait I had a Min pin once lol but he was already 6 months when I got him so the time was past. I think if I ever got a breed and had to choose I honestly don't know what I'd choose.
 

voidecho

Well-Known Member
Yeah, it's definitely personal preferrence. For breeds like Danes and Boxers, I always prefer the floppy ear look.

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cwayaustx

Banned
I agree on the boxer. I personally never had a dog that needed cropping but if I had a Corso you can bet he'd be cropped. Ill prolly get slaughtered for this but I used to dock all my buddies rott pups at less than a day old. Count two-three digits, snip and dip in alcohol. Pups were done yelping before you put them back on the ground. Never had a problem.
 

Tiger12490

Well-Known Member
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it's associated with fighting

Dogfighters don't crop dogs ears though....I personally like a natural dog I wish I had docked kronos' tail but not for looks but for his happy tail...but I dont think id ever crop a dog unless I think it fit the dog better..but have no problem with either.....its your dog...

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