Why not to support BYBs

[dogman#1]

I found another ad for this mix. not sure if it is the same breeder or not.

http://lethbridge.kijiji.ca/c-pets-dogs-puppies-for-sale-MASTIFF-PUPPIES-W0QQAdIdZ410004028

lol, "gentle giants"... someone is gonna be in for a hell of a surprise with this mixture...

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

Damn stupid people!!!!!

 

[Sadies Mom]

Check this out.....
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pet/3242814119.html

 

[RxGoforth]

Check this out.....
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pet/3242814119.html

Wow. Just wow. I don't even know what those look like, but you can tell they are small breed dogs.
They look like pomeranian mixes to me. I hate people but then they won't be as potentially dangerous
as the fila neos above could be in the wrong hands.

 

[moonglow]

I think the craigslist ad meant to say Tibetan Spaniel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Spaniel not Mastiff.

 

[RxGoforth]

I think the craigslist ad meant to say Tibetan Spaniel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Spaniel not Mastiff.

Ok that is more like it. I am not familiar with all the small breeds.
Just a question, how are people able to get these "designer" breeds papered? I knew a guy who had a english bulldog/pit bull who had papers on him. Needless to say I do not like the guy at all. He keeps the dog chained for no reason. The dog is energetic, but a total sweetheart and non-agressive. He said he was going to breed it with a staffordshire to get the "perfect" pocket bully. What the hell does this mean. Did I mention I don't like this guy.

 

[raechiemay]

Some mix breeds are starting to get recognized by certain registries. This I do not understand. People are taking one breed & breeding it with another just bc they think it's cute or someone told them they should.

With that being said, my little dog I would NEVER consider her to be a designer dog. She came from an accidental breeding & her parents lived with a really good friend of our family. I saw the pups when they were 2 weeks old & I asked if I could have one. He gave her to me for free once she was weaned & she has been the best dog I've ever had. And the guy I got her from had the parents fixed & the "oops" never happened again. When people ask what she is I usually just say yorkie mix. She looks like it but she also has dachshund ears, dachshund body length & dachshund legs. Sometimes I'll call her a "dorkie" but like I said I usually consider her a mutt but a really cute & sweet mutt.

Just for fun:

 

[babyjoemurphy]

Most people do not understand Brazil Mastiff. They just read Mastiff and think nothing more. I don't know much about Neos, but have read enough on Filas. Maybe i will send a email to see if they would correct their ad and inform people of the Filas instead of "from Brazil"

 

[Jadotha]

Unfortunately, here are some registries for 'designer dogs' and mixed breeds:

http://designerbreedregistry.com/recognized_breeds_2011.html
http://www.nambr.ca/
http://www.continentalkennelclub.com/specialfaqs.aspx

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@ Babyjoe, I think that would be a great service to the puppies and their new/ future owners. The way they are advertised now is setting up a disaster just waiting to happen for some unsuspecting buyer.

 

[Jadotha]

@ Babyjoe, I think that would be a great service to the puppies and their new/ future owners. The way they are advertised now is setting up a disaster just waiting to happen for some unsuspecting buyer.

 

[RxGoforth]

After reading this thread I wonder if Zeus is even full blooded. I love both dogs regardless. With Nikki I know it's poor breeding. Zeus just doesn't look 100%. I know he's predominately EM, but I can't help but wonder if there's a splash of something else. Or just more bad breeding. I guess it comes along with the territory when you adopt rather than select a pup from someone reputable.

 

[Jadotha]

RxGoforth,

Remind me, have you posted some pictures of Zeus? At 12 to 14 mos, pups from some lines can still be in a tall, lanky phase where their heads still need to broaden as well as their bodies filling out all over.

 

[RxGoforth]

There are a couple in the pics thread. I need to get a good standing side shot of him. I think once we get him to a healthy weight. His mouth seems odd though and he has so much black all down his front. Reminds me of sheperd mixes.

 

[RxGoforth]

 

[babyjoemurphy]

Ok wait a minute, I was just about to send a request for info on the kijiji listing for pups and did anyone else pick up on the age of the DAD? If I am reading correctly it states he is 11 months old WTF!
Warning flags all over the place

 

[RxGoforth]

Babies having babies

 

[Jadotha]

Yes, exactly! And yes, you read that correctly

 

[Smokeycat]

Ok wait a minute, I was just about to send a request for info on the kijiji listing for pups and did anyone else pick up on the age of the DAD? If I am reading correctly it states he is 11 months old WTF!
Warning flags all over the place

I think I have run into the owner in one of the local pet stores. I remember talking with a lady one day when I was out with Kryten and she had said they had a litter of mastiff puppies. There aren't that many mastiff dogs here.

 

[babyjoemurphy]

WOW I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy! So let's see. From what I understand and please correct me if I am wrong. Breeding dogs to early can lead to issues in the pups right? Or is it only if you breed Mom too soon?
Why would someone do this....ok wait a minute BYB right what was I thinking. I know Murphy is from Manitoba but being I am in Ontario I don't know if he came from a rep breeder. Everything on the site points to a good place but I can't go check it out like I could if he was from here. Kinda scary to think.
I just want to shake people that think its ok to take a Mastiff and place it any where. This is one breed that needs to be placed in a knowledgable home. Last thing I think anyone needs is an angry 200 lbs bull headed beast

 

[Jadotha]

Re: Breeding males too early. Not really. Most male dogs start to produce sperm and are physically able to mate when they are around seven months old -- but the sperm are immature, so there are frequently fertility problems. The general rule of thumb is to wait at least until one year. "Prime breeding age' is often identified as 18 mths to four or five years (probably longer for slow maturing giant breeds like Mastiffs). The other drawbacks is that at 11 mos, you don't really know how the dog is going to turn out, and whether he will ultimately be a good representative of the breed. Many genetic and developmental problems do not show up for a couple of years. Also, only preliminary tests can be done on hips -- although I suspect that health testing would have been the last thing on this breeder's mind.