Breeding makes females dogs dangerous?!

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by Sheila Braund, May 11, 2019.

  1. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    ok so most of you know I want to breed Bella at least once. I would like to get into breeding Mastiffs to help bring back the larger size EMs here in Ontario Canada. We've noticed that a lot of the breeders in Ontario are breeding them smaller. Still a very nice size, but not like what I've seen in other parts of the country or other countries.
    Now my husbands uncle has him convinced that we shouldn't breed Bella.... and that if we're going to breed her to be prepared to put her down. He believes once Bella has been bred that she will be dangerous after.... His uncle has seen it before....and the example he provides is an Bull Mastiff that I swear she has something else in her blood line.... her head just isn't a "Mastiff" head shaped...
    Anyways this dog was raised with 4 very ruff boys....ages 12 and down to 6 years old. When she had pups I've seen how ruff those boys were with her pups.... so miss handled I grabbed the one boy and told him to give the pup back to the mother.... and the little shit head threw this 2week old pup at the mother.... the pup bounced off the nursing mother and onto the bedding. I've seen these kids picking up the pups and tossing them in the air and catching them like a baseball... the parents couldn't understand why their female dog started growling at the boys when ever they came near her pups.

    So now my husband is convinced that once Bella has pups that she will turn so mean that we will have to put her down..... My argument is....First of all NO ONE will handle Bella's pups but us....
    And since I've never ever ruff handled or try to use any force with Bella.... I don't hit or yell or use any kind of " fear" training or handling. I've always used " co-operative training with her.

    I just don't know how to convince my husband that just isn't going to happen.
    My husbands uncle was here today and again brought up the subject that we shouldn't breed Bella....that she's a beautiful gentle dog and he would hate to see her destroyed....I was so pissed....it took everything I had not to tell him off..... I just excused myself and left the conversation and walked away.....I may have stomped away.... I do know both of them knew I wasn't happy.

    Ok maybe I'm just ranting here.
     
  2. marke

    marke Well-Known Member

    while they got pups they can be a bit dicey depending on the dog , but I've never seen it change a dogs temperament …………..as regard to breeding a dog , your floor post would personally concern me more than her getting dangerous from having pups ………….. I've had some moms who were uncharacteristically very dangerous to strangers around their pups ………..
     
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  3. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    Thank you marke,
    My parents bred King Shepherds. I don't remember any of their females getting nasty after having pups. Yes I'm very concern about Bella being afraid of floors. We'll be seeing the vet regarding this first just to make sure it's not something I'm missing. If she's having issues because of something physical or health related I want to know before she's bred. I wouldn't want to bred her if there is any health issues. I wouldn't want to add to it by breeding her. If I even suspect a health issue I wouldn't breed her. Bella's health and well being is much more important to me then breeding her.
    I just wanted to breed her once....if she's in the best possible physical and mental health. If she's not then no she will not be having any pups. I'm not sure if I would try with another female or not. I do know I wouldn't be getting another female until Bella had lived out her full life. I wouldn't want to add to her stress of having another female around. I love my Bella too much to do that. I'm one of those dog people that I believe it's an great honour and privilege to have her in my life.
    I guess I see this relationship with Bella and Sunny as I'm their Guardian, more so then as their my property.
    My family believes because of the way I see animals, that's why I have wild deer, walk to me to check me out while I stand there. I've raised and released many wild critters in my short existence.
    So my point to my ramblings is, it just may not be meant to be for me to breed Mastiffs. Only in doing research, and taking my time will I know.
     
  4. DenyMcKusker

    DenyMcKusker Member

     
  5. DenyMcKusker

    DenyMcKusker Member

    You know, this post surprised me. I have heard over my many years that allowing a female to have a litter that it would result in a calmer more satisfied female. I have considered over the years to let the females have a litter for that reason. These were Pit Bulls not Mastiff's. I didn't do it because I am not in to the whole having babies thing. My Son is doing that! All these Pitty's were AWESOME dogs. I think Bella will have beautiful babies and you will find them beautiful homes. I don't believe the Uncle AT ALL. I would get in line for 1 of her babies.
     
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  6. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    Awww Denny that is so sweet to hear, thank you for the kind words. BTW Pittys are one of my favourite breeds as well. They do make amazing family members as well. I was very upset when Ontario decided that Pittys was a dangerous animal and band them.... I just kept thinking what an idiot that started that ball rolling.
    Oh well I've decided I'm not going to allow Uncle to upset me. Most times I have lots of respect for this man. And in most cases I will listen to him and take his guidance to mind.....BUT not when it comes to my beautiful Bella.
     
  7. BlackShadowCaneCorso

    BlackShadowCaneCorso Super Moderator Staff Member

    Unless his uncle has first hand experience then he is repeating something that they likely didn't check on to ensure that it wasn't a problem in regards to something else. My females are around my children at all times, and the kids (while supervised) are allowed in the whelping box. They know not to touch the puppies unless I say so and I make sure that I am between pups and mom at all times, as mom's, especially first time mom's can be a little more protective and that can make them dangerous. However, after about 2 weeks the mom typically settles down with the family for sure and by the time we allow visitors at 5 weeks they are usually back to their social selves. I agree with Marke I would be more concerned with the flooring problem than her getting aggressive because she had puppies.
     
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