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Cane Corso Encounters a Loose Pit Bull!

Mag-Pie

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I walk my CC every day around the neighborhood, we usually walk for an hour or so; up and down the streets and through parks. I use these walks as training sessions, and to desensitize Luther to the outside world. It's always a structured walk, I use a short traffic lead and keep him in “heel”. He loves going for walks now, has learned to ignore distractions, no longer is scared of cars, and is nonreactive to other dogs and people, as long as they keep their distance. I've been working diligently with him for the past 4 months, and he's improved immensely, he's well mannered and obedient on our walks. I'm very happy about that.

The other day, we were out walking, and there is this corner house with two dogs, judging by the looks of them: some black lab looking thing and a pit bull (mix?) of some sort. They're always barking and jumping around in their fenced-in yard as people with dogs walk by. As we were approaching their house, a guy with a dog walked by them and they were all yapping and jumping around behind the fence, per unusual, but they seemed contained so it was no big deal. Then it was our turn, and we actually were walking across on the other side of the street. So we walk by, cross another side street, and all of a sudden I feel Luther slowing down and looking back. As I stop and turn around I see THE pit bull standing behind us!!! Gasp, his tail and ears are up. At this point Luther is standing tall also, and I'm like fuck!!! So I say: “Hey! Get! Go home!” as I move toward that other dog facing him and claiming my space, he just looks at me, like “what?”, so I got louder “GO HOME!” and stumped my foot, which made him turn back and he ran into the street, and back unto his sidewalk. I'm like, WTF?! Did that dog just hop the fence, or open the gate? But the other dog stayed in their yard, so IDK. But whatever, Luther did NOT react, stayed cool but alert, and we moved on.

I was really happy how well he handled this encounter, but I've stepped up my game as far as how I handle loose dogs, since in the past I've had a problem with loose dogs charging at us, but that's because I was not prepared for loose/off leash dogs running up to us. I guess I was naive in thinking that other people were all responsible owners; now I know better and am prepared any time I see another dog to handle the situation. I learned to stay calm, confident, and in charge. Luther knows now that I will “protect” him, so he does not have to get involved, and hangs back.

As we continued walking, a few yards down, there was a group of guys walking towards us, but once they saw us they went into the street; they didn't have to because Luther was cool, but he was still walking tall which made him look intimidating. We passed each other, and a few moments later I hear dog barking, them yelling and hear them running back… so I assume that pit was still out and about, and this time decided to charge those guy. SMH. But, whatever, not my problem. My responsibility is to myself and my dog, making sure he is not a liability or a nuisance.

The point of all this is there are dogs everywhere, their owners not always secure them, either because they are ignorant or careless. Or maybe it's that in my neighborhood we have more then a handful of really irresponsible dog owners with rude dogs, but I doubt this problem is only around here. So, everyone should always pay attention to their surroundings, and be prepared for all kinds of encounters. Cheers!
 

DennasMom

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Perfectly done!
Great story!

Hope I can think that fast on my feet when I'm next in that situation. :)
 

Mag-Pie

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Thank you DennasMom! I was really impressed with myself (and Luther), that I did not hesitate and just automatically took control. But honestly this might have been a case of self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't want to sound like some superstitious nutcase, but I'll admit after having a few minor incidents in the past where off-leash dogs charged us, and a few small dogs came running out of their house/yard barking and snapping at Luther (while their owners were oblivious to the potential danger because their dogs are "friendly" and "never done that before"), I started wondering what if one day there will be a loose pit that comes up to us, will I be able to control the situation? So I have been kind of preparing myself in my mind, so that I wouldn't be caught off guard again.

Obviously I do not think of pit bulls as "evil incarnate", my best friend owns one and he's the sweetest thing BUT I am also aware of people's ignorance and lax attitudes while owning these dogs. And in my area there is a lot of them, and they do not seem well mannered, nor stable. Too many times I've witnessed someone walking one on the opposite side of the street totally out of control, barking and lunging, while choking on a 6 ft leash in front of their incompetent owner, who's screaming at them to sit to no avail. All the while Luther and I just keep walking calmly, ignoring the spectacle. So I've been apprehensive about such an encounter. I never want Luther to get into a fight, I know he will not instigate it but I'm pretty sure he would tango if an opportunity presented itself. It's my job to make sure that does not happen, pit bull or not, nobody's going to provoke him if I can help it. Haha! So from now on, I will only think about how pleasant our walk are, how well Luther is doing, and how no loose dogs will be coming up to us. All the while knowing, I can handle it. ;)
 

mountainfila

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Soooooooo proud of you !!!!!! Awesome job being in control and stopping a bad situation from getting out of control, goodboy Luther!!! You have now started a chain reaction of confidence in yourself, now you wont be apprehensive anymore, deal with it before it starts and don't be afraid to get loud. I get loud in hopes the owner will hear how pissed off I am that there dogs are loose and come rescue it from me. If you new me in person, I am the most calm easy going confident person, I just have a great energy bout me but mess with my dogs in anyway and boom I become a tiger ROAR lol. Onwards and upward from here, good job!!!!


And yes if a boot to the stray dog is what is needed then use any means to protect yourself and your dog
 
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NYDDB

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I learned to stay calm, confident, and in charge. Luther knows now that I will “protect†him, so he does not have to get involved, and hangs back.


The point of all this is there are dogs everywhere, their owners not always secure them, either because they are ignorant or careless. Or maybe it's that in my neighborhood we have more then a handful of really irresponsible dog owners with rude dogs, but I doubt this problem is only around here. So, everyone should always pay attention to their surroundings, and be prepared for all kinds of encounters. Cheers!

Really nice post...and a perfect example of confidence and not backing down- well done you and Luther!

And, no---it's everywhere, this loose dog + clueless owner business. I live in a large city, with tons of dogs- not too many loose ones on the streets, but I have stopped going to Central Park during off-leash hours in the mornings after realizing that yes, my dog will not start a fight, but will not hesitate to finish it.

I have a many stories, too many... But one time Mateo was in the park during this time, playing with one of his girlfriends. There were a few dogs milling around, but all was peaceful. I noticed a Husky coming over the hill, on a flexi-leash, that was being pulled out more and more as he caught sight of Mateo. The owner was a woman who had no clue of her dog's body language, or the fact that he was laser-focused on my dog.

She LET GO of the leash, figuring, what--- that he wanted to meet some new friends and why should she stop him (smh...) By the time I got up to try and block him, the Husky jumped on Mateo who, at the time, was on his side in full play mode. They got into it, with me jumping in the middle, trying to pull them apart . It wasn't pretty, and in the end I got injured more than the dogs.

And the Husky's owner? She ran away and just watched, frozen... :mad: Nice.

I should have- and could have- acted in a more proactive manner- even though I didn't realize she had let go of the leash. But hindsight...

But another time is when I really got my act together in terms of my own confidence and protective responsibilty. There was a large dog who always hated Mateo, even when Mateo was a pup. The owner was an older woman, with a pretty nasty personality; she told me that her dog hates any dog who is intact, so keep away. Okay, fine.

Well, she lived in the neighborhood, so we would cross paths every now and then, in which case her dog always lunged and growled at Mateo...he really wanted to kill him, no joke. She could barely control him but we always crossed the street if possible, just to keep space between them.

This went on for about a year, each time Mateo would get tense, but not react to him...until. One day we were walking and saw them, but did not have an alternative place to create space because of construction. Her dog went off again, lunging at Mateo, her grip started to slip, he was getting closer...then Mateo decided he had taken enough of this unruly mongrel, and I felt, truly, the power and strength of my dog. He pulled me off my feet, like I was a rag doll, going after this dog. In the process, I ripped two huge holes in my jeans, and badly scraped my legs, knee and arm. They barely connected before I got them off of each other... and yes, I was humiliated.

BUT. After that incident, I told myself that what just happened will Never. Happen. Again. I upped my training with Mateo, working every day on focus commands, and non-reactivity (he was never really reactive, but enough that it could escalate..)

He learned a new command: "Right Here," which means, stay right to my left side and do not move. Similar to heel, which he does well, but more of a stop and stay here command. My confidence has grown..because it HAD to.

Also, I've learned to stay relaxed-- alert, but calm, and Mateo feels that energy. When a dog reacts to him agressively, he stays by my side..and then we move on. The cool part is, is that he has started to look up at me after the threat has passed, as if to say, "Hey we did good, eh?"

Wow, I just wrote a book. But I guess I wanted to share my own experience a bit of how I have learned through a series of events- to finally wake up and be the protector, the leader. I know my dog will protect me if needed, but he has to know that it works both ways, too.

This has really benefited both of us and built a stronger relationship of trust. :)
 

Mag-Pie

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Soooooooo proud of you !!!!!! Awesome job being in control and stopping a bad situation from getting out of control, goodboy Luther!!!

Thank you for saying that mountainfila, I appreciate your kind words! It's true this experience has given me an added boost of confidence. Believe me, I am all about dealing with it BEFORE it starts. Kind of like when I started walking Luther, and in the beginning he would start zoning in on distractions (people, dogs, squirrels, etc.), and I would quickly snap him out of it, break his focus, redirect his attention to me, and kept walking. I learned about dog signals and started paying close attention to him, watching for any signs, and not allow him to start reacting. I think that has helped me out immensely. When I got him he was reactive with everything, but I worked with him everyday to overcome this. He's still a work in progress, his training will never stop, but we are making great strides.

Also, I have embraced the fact that sometimes I'll have to get loud with other people's dogs to stop a dangerous situation from possibly happening. I never had a problem with telling people they were out of line, but kind of felt mean about doing it to their dogs. In my mind it was kind of like correcting other people's kids, it's frowned upon especially when you don't have one (which I don't), and I see a lot who need correcting. LOL. Now that I am a Mastiff owner, I feel it's for the best IF I correct someone else's dog when they are out of line. People already think I am mean because how blunt I am, haha, so now when I correct their dog, they think I am a total bitch. I'm not, I'm actually pretty cool. But I got over that pretty quickly once I realized that owning a mastiff required me to be responsible for not only my dog but also everyone else's when around us. Which I am fine with, since I am pretty confident and responsible anyway.

And yes if a boot to the stray dog is what is needed then use any means to protect yourself and your dog

You know as much as I hate the idea of hurting another dog, I will not hesitate to protect myself and my dog if need be. I read about breaking up a dog fight, and honestly I don't think I would be able to do it by myself. So now I have a stun gun for when all else fails, though I hope the noise it makes alone would break up a fight, but the plan is to never allow a fight to start. Onwards and upward from here on out. ;)
 

Mag-Pie

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Really nice post...and a perfect example of confidence and not backing down- well done you and Luther!

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After that incident, I told myself that what just happened will Never. Happen. Again. I upped my training with Mateo, working every day on focus commands, and non-reactivity (he was never really reactive, but enough that it could escalate..)

He learned a new command: "Right Here," which means, stay right to my left side and do not move. Similar to heel, which he does well, but more of a stop and stay here command. My confidence has grown..because it HAD to.

Also, I've learned to stay relaxed-- alert, but calm, and Mateo feels that energy. When a dog reacts to him agressively, he stays by my side..and then we move on. The cool part is, is that he has started to look up at me after the threat has passed, as if to say, "Hey we did good, eh?"

Wow, I just wrote a book. But I guess I wanted to share my own experience a bit of how I have learned through a series of events- to finally wake up and be the protector, the leader. I know my dog will protect me if needed, but he has to know that it works both ways, too.

This has really benefited both of us and built a stronger relationship of trust. :)

Thank you NYDDB for the compliments, and for sharing your experiences. It's horrible that other dogs have attacked Mateo, you've gotten hurt in the process, and their owners were useless. It really sucks. But it's great that you became proactive and turned it around for you. The other clueless/careless dog owners make me soo mad, that I get irate just thinking about it. Their ignorance is almost unbelievable, how is it even possible? But it is, and it just does not make sense to me now. In trying to understand it, I'll admit that I never before thought much about it either. I guess, before I got my CC I did not know much about owning large powerful breeds and what it really meant, now that I do I look at everything differently. And I see too many irresponsible owners out there. So being proactive is the only way to be. :)

I was prepared for what Luther would be like, what he would require of me, the training, time, and patience BUT I was completely unprepared when I encountered my first irresponsible dog owners and their loose dogs. I raged about it in a rant I posted before, and I'll admit feeling humiliated also. The whole experience knocked me on my ass, literally and figuratively speaking. But honestly that was an eye opener for me, and from then on I started stepping up and protecting my big boy. Just like you. It's like I got it, a lightbulb went off in my head, it's not about calling yourself “alpha†and “dominant†with these breeds and doing nothing, like so many do. Being the alpha means you take responsibility, you make sure everyone is in line, not only your dog but EVERYONE that comes in contact with him. You are the leader. It's like I got a new perspective on life. It sounds strange, but it's true. I've heard people say that owning a mastiff changes your life, but I never thought it could be such a revelation. Cheers!
 

Mag-Pie

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Good job on raising a confident Corso!

Thank you. He's still a work in progress, working with him has been a steep learning curve, and I've only had him for almost 5 months now. He was re-homed with me at 14 months old because his previous owners didn't have time for him as he got too big, too aggressive, and just all around too much to handle. But, I feel he's totally worth all the hard work and time I've devoted to him. He's mine now, completely changed my life, and he's here to say. :)
 

HeatherA

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wow what a great thread!!

good job to you!

loose dogs is horrible i wish people took pet ownership more seriously and all dogs got basic obedience. If people would just understand its not ok to let your dog yap outside all day and jump fences, if i knew my dog could jump my fence i would be getting a better fence and training my dog NO!!
 

Mag-Pie

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Thank you musicdeb and HeatherA.

i wish people took pet ownership more seriously and all dogs got basic obedience.

Me too, me too. I think education is the way to combat ignorance, so I am grateful that this forum exists. :)