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Cane corso snout question, need advice

DragosMom

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Hi guys! Today we received the weirdest comment in regards to Drago's snout. We were at a friend of a friends home from a barbecue. Apparently one of the guests family members "breeds" cc's. We were told that Drago's snout is too long to be full blooded cane corso. We were like what???? We have his akc papers, we met the breeder, saw the parents blablabla. He argued with us incessantly that we are wrong.. can anyone explain difference in snout such as short vs long! Is this a bad thing etc. We love our guy and think he's perfect just curious about the different snout shapes we see on one cane corso vs another. Is this like a person's facial trait? Like we are all made different or does Drago's snout not fit the typical cane corso snout.. just curious!
Thanks

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DragosMom

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Also there are pics of Drago in the feeds bellow for comparison.

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Iulicris88

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I'm not an expert in corsos but, as far as i've seen, there seems to be quite a bit of variety in the breed. Some have tighter skin, some, like mine, are more loose. Again with the size, nowadays you see alot of corsos way bigger than the standard. Just enjoy your gorgeous baby!
 

glen

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I think he looks full cc, we have 2 full brothers and they are different,gollum is there nephew and has looser skin and longer jowls.
 

season

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Solo has a longer snout that is recommended as far as showing etc goes. But I bought him as a pet quality. So, I don't really care. I don't study the breed standard or anything. I know Solo's breeder follows the Italian standard, but even with that you will have some dogs that aren't show or breed quality. I wouldn't get too worked up about it.
 

Hiraeth

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The standard is as follows:

"Muzzle - Very broad and deep, width is almost equal to its length, which reaches approximately one third of the total length of the head; the depth of muzzle is more than 50 percent of the length of the muzzle. The top and bottom muzzle planes are parallel, and the nose and chin form a perpendicular line. Viewed from the front, the anterior face should look flat and form a trapezoid, wider at the bottom. Muzzle is not overly narrow or snipey."

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I don't mean this to be offensive, just factual, since you're asking. As far as a show standard, yes, he's very out of standard (from the photos I can see, his muzzle is about half of the length of his head instead of the third it's supposed to be). I would also not think he was pureblooded CC if I saw him on the street. His size (he's heavier than my quite large Great Dane puppy) and head are very incorrect and make me wonder what his breeder is trying to do with their lines. They're clearly not breeding with conformation in mind, so what are they trying to accomplish? Do they work and/or title their dogs?

I'm not a "standard purist" and think a lot of changes need to be made to the world of dog showing, but I do think that bigger does not equal better, and anyone breeding CCs that are heavier than Great Danes of the same age needs to take a step back and examine exactly what they are trying to accomplish with their breeding program (besides making profit).

That all being said, there's no good reason on this earth to be rude to someone and insist their dog isn't purebred when they inform you that it is. It sounds like this guy was just a jerk. The fact that Drago doesn't look like a standard CC doesn't mean he isn't a great dog, or that he won't be a great companion or live a healthy, long life. I'd suggest you ignore this person and continue on enjoying your dog :)
 

Joao M

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I have to agree with Hiraeth on this, IF you are looking at the breed standard.

And I would emphasize the last paragraph. That is what really matters !
 

sjdavenport

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Drago's muzzle is longer than the standard calls for. The breed is all over the place at the moment. Every dog has its flaws, and I think it's important to recognize those in order to better the breed. Rhaegar (although a perfect little boy in my eyes, lol) almost borders on hypertype. His muzzle is a bit short, and his head is much too rounded. His nares are also not as wide as they should be (not quite stenotic though). His tail set is low. He has good attributes as well though. His topline isn't bad compared to many, although he's just a little high in the rear (probably not if I learned how to stack him though). He has those perfect little cat feet, the correct coat texture, and his rear leg angulation and depth of chest are pretty good. It hurts a lot of people's feeling to hear that their dogs don't fit the standard perfectly, although it shouldn't. Especially if purchased as a pet/pet quality like Rhaegar was. It is, however, extremely rude for someone to insist that Drago isn't a purebred cane corso. I know how that feels. I get it a lot because of Rhaegar's color pattern. It isn't worth the argument to me. Just enjoy your lovely pet!
 

DennasMom

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I think Drago is a beautiful dog. Is his snout longer than "breed standard"? probably... but I bet he does better in the hot summers because of it - more cooling capacity! :)

Denna is our first "pure" breed dog... so we're not used to defending this sort of attack... I pretty much just ignore them (she's not papered, so I can't really argue too much anyway). Maybe a suggestion of "I could give you the breeder's number, if you wanted to talk to them about it" would shut them up?
 

DragosMom

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Thanks guys! We really appreciate the info. So what if our guy doesn't meet show standards. He wasn't purchased for us to show, he was purchased for us to love. We think he's absolutely gorgeous and someone's foolish comments are not going to ruin our day haha. We appreciate everyone's input so much and as always, Thk you all for the kind and supportive comments!

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DragosMom

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Mom was 155 dad 170 I believe. Drago was just at vet and at 10 mos he weighs 123

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Hiraeth

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Mom was 155 dad 170 I believe. Drago was just at vet and at 10 mos he weighs 123Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using Tapatalk

My hope is that this breeder is doing all of the necessary health testing to produce dogs of this size. Which would be OFA or PennHIP, OFA thyroid and OFA cardiac testing. CCs are also prone to eye issues, so CERF eye exams should be done. CCs aren't as bloat-prone as Danes, but bloat can occur, so making sure to remove any dog who bloats from the breeding program is also important.

I mean, no two ways about it, they're breeding massive hyper types that are out of standard. If they aren't titling or showing their dogs, then they're breeding for profit. MOST of the time, when someone is breeding solely for profit, health testing and temperament take a back seat to breeding bigger and bigger dogs.

So, I hope that despite the fact that they're breeding hyper types, they're still taking the overall health and wellness of the breed into consideration when they're producing absolutely massive CCs.