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I have deer,,need advise

KimT

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I have two Ribs,giviing them to the dogs as is is fine right the bones should hurt them?and I have what I believe to be a part of a neck,my husband was going to cut the sharp edges off,will that also be fine as is,I was thinking for Norman the leg thigh thing I was gonna have my husband cut in half and let Hanna have at it,she cant bite hard enough to do ant damage to her teeth
 

ruthcatrin

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I've fed my two all sorts of deer bones. The leg/thigh bones MAY be really hard, it'll depend on the deer. As usual supervise till you're sure how they're handling the bones, but otherwise go for it.
 

DennasMom

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Ditto.

Denna enjoys deer ribs and necks... if allowed, she will eat too much of it at once, and then vomits up the extra - normally at about 3am. :\

I might avoid an electric or gas saw cut, the fast spinning blade gets really, really hot, and will 'cook' the edges of the bone, making them more brittle and potentially difficult to digest. Hand cut would probably be fine, though.

Depending on how your pups handle fat... bone marrow in large quantities can cause pudding poo's... the pup might think it's totally worth it, though. :)
 

KimT

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Thanks for the info,Ive decided to just cut up most of it into smaller portions, The neck was over 10 pounds lol and there is no guarantee that I would be able to get it away from them, so for my on sanity Im going to cut it, My husband has a small saws all that seem to go through it pretty easy
 

DDSK

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Hmmmmmmmm I have two racks of deer ribs in the fridge now.
I was thinking BBQ but the dogs may like them better.
 

Joe Flynn

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So I want to start feeding my 2 pups raw. And I think that deer is cheep answer. This is acceptable right?
 

musicdeb

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Deer is acceptable as long as you freeze the meat for at least 2 weeks before feeding. However, it's best to mix it up with the different types of meat about a month into raw.
 

Joe Flynn

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so after a month of feeding em deer, I would need to mix in some chicken and or beef a couple times a week?
 

Joe Flynn

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Deer is acceptable as long as you freeze the meat for at least 2 weeks before feeding. However, it's best to mix it up with the different types of meat about a month into raw.
u seem to know alot... my plan is to just give them meet periodically in the week while still feeding them kibble. As long as i feed them a higher end kibble they should be getting all the greens they need right?
 

musicdeb

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If you are feeding grain free kibble, you can mix it with raw meat. However, if you feed a kibble with grains, it will confuse their digestive system because they process the grains and meat differently = digestive upset.

Yes, mix it up a bit when feeding raw.

Here's my spill on raw diet.

This is my experience with the raw diet with my boy, Titan.

Ok, first of all the basics. Raw diet is 80% meat, 10% raw meaty bone and 10% organ meat. The pup is fed 2-3% of their expected weight. Expected weight is based on parent*s weight, usually take the average of the parents. For example, the pup is expected to weigh 100 lbs., you would feed the pup 2-3 lbs of meat per day. For simplicity, you feed the pup 2 lbs of meat per day. You then would feed him approximately 1.5 lbs of meat + 2 ozs of raw meaty bone and 2 ozs of organ meat.

Organ meat is not started until at least 2-3 weeks on raw diet. Organ meat is liver, kidney, spleen, etc. Hearts and gizzards are meat because they are muscle.

The best meat to start raw diet is chicken legs, leg quarters, chicken breasts, and/or chicken necks (use these sparingly due to the high bone content). The chicken legs and leg quarters are pretty close to the 80% meat and 10% raw meaty bones.

Raw chicken feet are a great source of glucosamine. Titan eats his raw chicken feet frozen.

The pup will chew the bones once or twice and swallow, do not be alarmed that is normal. Pups will regurgitate, that is normal.

You will notice the pup will drink less water and the poop will dramatically reduce in size and occurrence. Titan*s poop is about the size of a cat*s poop and he usually poops every other day.

Do the chicken for about 2-3 weeks and then you can slowly introduce other meat and organ meats. Other meats are any meat you can buy at a grocery store or coop.

If the pup starts to have diarrhea after starting new meat or organ meat, reduce the amount of meat you are giving them until the diarrhea subsides.

I have fed Titan raw diet since 2012 because he had severe skin allergies and chronic yeasty ear infections due to the chicken and grains in dog food. It took 8-12 months to notice a difference but he no longer has skin allergies or chronic yeasty ear infection. I went the route of the vet prescribing antibiotics, steroids and special shampoos. It would clear up for a couple of weeks and start again.

FYI: Although pups are allergic to chicken in dog food, they seem to be ok with fresh chicken. However, be aware that some pups are allergic to chicken and/or all poultry.

Hope this helps. Let me know if I can help you further with feeding your pup raw diet.

Check out the Raw Diet sub forum in Health & Nutrition with a wealth of information re: raw diet.

“Do your research, form your own opinion and go with gut. Do what is best for your pup and your budget.”
 

Joe Flynn

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Well I've got one in the freezer now. I am switching there kibble back to a grain free... but i had't fully transitioned them to 1 type yet. Now I'm mixing 3 types of kibble.... Is this going to be a problem?
 

musicdeb

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Should not be a problem. Are you mixing the three to just use it or are you trying to decide which one to feed them?
 

AZ Boerboel

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Variety is a good thing with raw. I mix it up as much as possible and use Sardines, herring, Rabbit, Lamb, Goat, Squirrel, Elk, Deer, Buffalo, Beef, Chicken, Turkey, Dove, and Quail. Pretty much anything I can hunt I feed except for Javalina.
 

Max's mom

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I feed my dogs a beef bone every day. I really don't know whether it's the lower leg or upper but I buy them frozen at the grocery store and the butcher cuts them in half. 4-5 inch piece. They get it frozen and chew and lick contently for hours. They lay around for about a day or so. They chew and gnaw and I throw them away. No cracking, breaking off large pieces. The ends sometimes get a little ragged looking and I know they are eating some little pieces. Bo has done this for years. Max since he was about 12 weeks old. I'd like to introduce deer because it's deer season and there is an abundance here! Big hunting region... So, my purpose for giving the bones is to occupy while I'm out and pups are crated. But also, neither chew things they are not supposed to like shoes, furniture or my woodwork so it's really just having an appropriate chew choice readily available. Would deer legs be a good substitue or addition to there routine? I understand the deep freeze for a few weeks to kill any pathogen that may be lingering. I would get the bones from an approved butcher who dresses deer.
What other bones besides the leg would be good for chewing but not necessarily eating.
Max (mastiff) is grain free. Bo (lab) is not.
 

musicdeb

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Weight-bearing bones, i.e. leg bones, can break pup's teeth quite easily. In my opinion, it's best to avoid them.