Is a bullmastiff right for me?

Discussion in 'The Bullmastiff' started by Doglover85, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. Doglover85

    Doglover85 New Member

    Hello everyone! Thanks for allowing me to join the community! I'll apologize in advance for the long post lol.
    Well I'm here because eventually I'm wanting to buy a Bullmastiff whenever my wife and I buy a house (3-8 years) . I've read a bunch of info but it all basically seems copy and paste. So instead of doing the bulletpoints of what I want, I'll give my experience and maybe someone can point me in the right direction of this or another breed.
    A little about my background;
    I'm 35 my wife is 28, I've owned dogs of all sizes, from shih tsus, to Shepards, and pibbles/staffies. Growing up we bred dogs and it was my job to train them. So I've Bred and rescued dogs. I've actually been told I should become a behaviorist and trainer, as I naturally can read dogs and train them very easily. I use a mix of positive reinforcement and mother/alpha cues I've picked up along the way (lightly grabbing the snout if they nip or try to grab food, guiding by the collar if they get stubborn or don't know where I want them, scooting with my body to move them etc) I used to have a deaf dog so I had to use all hand and bodily cues to tell her what to do. Now I just do it naturally and definitely speeds training drastically.
    Ive never had to use prong collars or anything of that sort and I don't believe in hitting any animals (it's going to be a bad day if I catch someone)
    So 1 newbie-10 being professional in training and being a pack leader, I'd say I'm a sold 9 as Ive never cared about crazy tricks, showing or anything if that nature
    I don't care about drool as I'm used to dealing with my sister in law's corso (I love him). My knees are shot from Army life, so a good potty walk in the morning and evening with a good game of tug and maybe a little wrestle time is all I'm good for. Both my wife and I currently work overnight, but that isn't a perminant thing. I curb separation anxiety real quick with my current dogs by getting a blanket and rubbing it over the mother and other puppies on one side and me and now my wife on the other side, with a good full Kong and timed leaves nixes any bad behavior real quick.

    I'm looking for a couch buddy and a gaurd to take with me to be the "bouncer" of my business,(aka snoozing in my office) and just be a family companion. I plan to have his bed in our room and feed him a raw or semi raw diet. My mother in law is a vet tech so all of our needs are discounted.
    We also don't have or want children so that's not a concern. Ive found dogs that were $1200 all the way up to $5k so I have no idea what an average price is.
    I already know to get full health screens and all that( my mother bred Shepards) I'm just wary about backyard breeders and the like.

    So that's my info, again sorry for the long post, I just like to be thorough lol.
  2. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum. I don't have a BM, but my sister-in-law does. I'm a boxer and EM girl for now. I think that with your experience a BM would be a good fit for your home. You sound like you know how to find a good breeder. I know many people have a problem not getting to choose whatever pup they want from a litter, but most responsible breeders will get to know you and what you're looking for in a pup and then match a pup (or several) to your needs. As long as you find a breeder you trust, this usually works out really well for successful placements. I'd expect somewhere between $1500-$2000 for a pet quality pup to be about normal. The last boxer I got was ten years ago and he was pet quality for $1200.

    We do have BM owners here that have gotten pups from various types of breeders and I'm sure they'll give their opinions. Wishing you lots of luck and just wanted to say that it's really good to see someone doing their research well ahead of getting a pup. I'm hoping Marke will see this. He has tons of BM experience.
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  3. Loverboy Skyline

    Loverboy Skyline Active Member

    It sounds like the BM will be a good fit for you. They are a good dog for people who can only give a limited amount of exercise and they are very protective. In my experience most established reputable breeders start at about $2500 and up, and $2500 will get you a puppy from one of their pet quality litters. The more you pay, the better the pedigree. You might find a good deal for $1500 from someone starting out or from a hobby breeder, but then you take the risk of running into a scammer or someone who doesn't know what they are doing, so in that case you need to do your research to make sure the person is legit.
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  4. marke

    marke Well-Known Member

    i had this guy years ago , he was hanover simon's son ....... he was not lazy , he was afraid of nothing to the point of stupidity , being bold and nosey made him kinda scary to people ....... didn't take a hard correction well , let you know you weren't doing it twice , people , dog , and stranger friendly ........... if it wasn't too hot he could run 6 miles without a problem ....... he was a great dog .one of my favorite all time dogs ....... his pups were some of the best dogs i ever had , better than him ...... in 3 generations he had 8 champions in his pedigree , his mother and father were both international champions , and 4 ROM dogs , he threw himself with anything ......... i believe i gave away most of his pups that i didn't keep ........ unregistered .........

    pics don't do him justice , he moved like a freight train , seen a lot of dogs , and he was a sight ......




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    with one of his sons , buddah

    and a pretty nice daughter of his

  5. Jakesmum

    Jakesmum Well-Known Member

    I am raising my second BM. The first one didn't prepare me for the energy and attitude of my newest one, my first guy Jake was so super laid back right from a puppy, but looking back at all the health problems he had I have to wonder if he was truly healthy right from a pup (he was our first and I don't think I chose a good breeder, look back at some of my posts). Bruce will be a year old next week and he is full of energy, even outplays the greyhound cross in his puppy daycare. They need a lot of training and need to be around their families. We have his kennel in our room and that's where he sleeps at night and when we have to leave him at home, otherwise our house would be destroyed. He loves people and other animals so much that he is still learning his manners when it comes to proper greetings (that will be our next class). All that being said, he is a wonderful companion! I have been working from home and he is happy to lay beside me for most of the day. Loves going for walks around the block and snoofle his whole way around. He's been great out camping and just being with us.
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  6. Doglover85

    Doglover85 New Member

    Those are gorgeous dogs! I know some dogs are more energetic than others. When we bred dogs I'd match the puppy to the personality. If the people were athletic I'd give them the most rambunctious dog, if they were more laid back I'd give them the pup that chilled while the rest of the puppies went nuts lol. I'd expect the same from my breeder. I live in Pittsburgh PA and apartments here don't allow large breeds. So while my wife and I save for a house it's pitties for now. I can do some stuff I just cant run longer than short bursts as my knees are completely shot. Everything else is good tho. I trained and play with my sister in laws 160 pound corso and he loves to wrestle. We will have a large yard for any dog we have to run around in I just won't be running along side lol
  7. Doglover85

    Doglover85 New Member

    I originally wanted a ddb but that changed over time to the bm. I want a dog that will watch my property but also be playful and chill. As I get older all of my athletic and army injuries are catching up on me. So I want a big dog that can basically do what I need it without me having to guide it if shit gets real.
    I treat all of my dogs as if they are my kids and spoil them a lithle more than I should, but they know when I mean business.

    I'm 35 now and owned and fostered over 50 animals mostly dogs from shihtsus, border collies, mastadors, labs, staffies and pitties. My uncle taught me how to train dogs and I learned from various sources as I got older to what I do now. I'm actually really good at reading all dogs. I'm usually the one telling owners that their dogs want this or that and I'm always right. I trained my sis in laws corso, and he was nuts as a puppy. And no one even remotely picked up on his cues and needs. I had him doing basic obedience after 3 days and now he listens but if I'm around he gives me all the drooly lovins because I knew he had severe separation anxiety and craved attention by any means he could get it.

    So I focused that energy into patrolling the family farm. Now when he gets antsy you just have to say patrol and he shoots out the door and chases the chickens into their pens and has the other dogs follow him around and he comes back in and is chilled out. My dog now was a severely neglected and abused back yard breeder dog(she escaped being chained to a pipe so the guy could rapid breed her for her first 4 years then she escaped with a puppy that died and way a stray for 2 years) . She had no training at all. It took me a solid 3 months to go from scratch to walking leash free knowing all commands to walking herself on a leash.

    She still has her moments but I just scoot her on her pillow and scold her and then she listens lol. I mainly use food and toys to train. I also know when a dog is bored and to stop. Which is why I think a bm is perfect cause I just teach the basics unless the dog craves to do something. And I only do 15-20 minute sessions a day anyway. Usually I start with a potty walk and then some tug then the training then more tug and a treat then just relax. So it all seems like one big play session.

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  8. Doglover85

    Doglover85 New Member

    How would he act if corrected? I don't mind a stubborn dog. I find it fun to learn what gets to to listen. And they always make me laugh lol. The first dog I rescued was a kelpie Shepard American pit mix after my first dog died. She was a handful. She would let you know she wanted to play by slamming into you or pouncing on you. It was annoying at first but after awhile we'd play football she would slam into my like crazy but would instantly stop if I said ow or easy. We couldn't let her run so when we were outside she was on a 15 pound 50 foot chain... She damn near sawed the tree it was attached to down as the chain was 3 inches deep. She loved it though. She was a great gaurd dog too. Super loving but if you came on the porch uninvited she'd burst through the screen door and try to rip your balls off lol. Which happened a couple times. (bad neighborhood) But once they left she just wanted to lay and watch TV and get belly rubs. That's really all I'm looking for in a dog. A buddy that will go for a walk then play and train and chill maybe wrestle and watch over the house while we are at work. After work he could sit outside with me and or run the yard play in his pool and be a big goofball that happens to love to chill and watch TV with me. If a dog turns out to be a super athlete I'd put him to work pulling shit on the farm until he was tired lol
  9. Loverboy Skyline

    Loverboy Skyline Active Member

    In general, Bullmastiffs don't take corrections well. Most of them won't be as dominant as the one Marke described, but they object to corrections in other ways, such as shutting down and not listening to you or walking away from you. They might even just play dead and have been known to do that on walks. A funny piece of advice I heard is never walk your Bullmastiff any farther than you are willing to carry him. Mine is pretty dominant for a 6-7 month old, and he already tries to assert himself at times, but I raised big dogs before and I know I have to be strong pack leader. You are probably well aware of that, and I'm sure you'll figure out a way to cope with it.
  10. marke

    marke Well-Known Member

    he wasn't stubborn at all ........ if you threatened him , he threatened back , he wasn't one to go belly up ........... like i said , he was a sight , looked like a monster , i never pushed back on a threat to find out if he meant it , just moved on and figured out another way ......... he was a good boy
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