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Lunging and barking at strangers, bit a neighbor

season

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Not only can't u trust him but if he's doing that garbage he can't trust u to lead him.


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Liz_M

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Not only can't u trust him but if he's doing that garbage he can't trust u to lead him.


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Well I think the OP is looking for advice on how to deal with this, got any specific, helpful tips?
 

season

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Yes. Go back to basics. Be a protector and leader for your dog. A dog won't feel the need to protect you if they can trust u to protect them. You develop leadership by setting non negotiable rules and boundaries. Less affection and more discipline. Work on structured walks. You lead the walk not the other way around. Correct with good timing. Make them believable. Work on a place command. Crate your dog. Make your dog earn everything. Make sure your energy is calm and assertive. If you are anxious and nervous so will you dog be. I've shared the same link from Ed Frawley on pack structure. I'll post it again. They should make a sticky out of this link.


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Liz_M

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That's a really great article! I agree it would be a handy sticky. It very handily debunks the loathsome "furbaby" mentality (which I find offensive and demeaning towards animals; I think infantilizing pets is very insulting to them.
 

season

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That's a really great article! I agree it would be a handy sticky. It very handily debunks the loathsome "furbaby" mentality (which I find offensive and demeaning towards animals; I think infantilizing pets is very insulting to them.

Totally agree. And it makes the owners look a tad off their rocker too.


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teodora

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definitely use a muzzle... And yes, a SCARY one. The scariest one you can find. One that will prevent people from petting him - if they do, they're not safe and he's not safe. It's your job to keep him away from people until you're 100% confident that he won't snap. I suppose you can't physically control a neo determined to launch (I can't) , so a solid muzzle would do.
 

7121548

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Yes. Go back to basics. Be a protector and leader for your dog. A dog won't feel the need to protect you if they can trust u to protect them. You develop leadership by setting non negotiable rules and boundaries. Less affection and more discipline. Work on structured walks. You lead the walk not the other way around. Correct with good timing. Make them believable. Work on a place command. Crate your dog. Make your dog earn everything. Make sure your energy is calm and assertive. If you are anxious and nervous so will you dog be. I've shared the same link from Ed Frawley on pack structure. I'll post it again. They should make a sticky out of this link.


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Thank you. I agree that if he's acting up, it's most definitely a reflection of my leadership skills. I'm working on it, but I'm currently a nervous wreck after this incident. Hopefully I can get past it soon, or at least act like it.

The article is very informative--thanks for posting it.
 

season

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definitely use a muzzle... And yes, a SCARY one. The scariest one you can find. One that will prevent people from petting him - if they do, they're not safe and he's not safe. It's your job to keep him away from people until you're 100% confident that he won't snap. I suppose you can't physically control a neo determined to launch (I can't) , so a solid muzzle would do.

If you as an owner can't stop people, by yourself, from petting your dog then you shouldn't have one. It's your job to protect your dog. Not the other way around. No one should be able to simply come up to your dog and pet them. That's just poor leadership.


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season

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Thank you. I agree that if he's acting up, it's most definitely a reflection of my leadership skills. I'm working on it, but I'm currently a nervous wreck after this incident. Hopefully I can get past it soon, or at least act like it.

The article is very informative--thanks for posting it.

You're more than welcome. Like the article says, your dog knows what you know and they know what you don't. There's no fooling your dog into following your lead.


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7121548

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That's a really great article! I agree it would be a handy sticky. It very handily debunks the loathsome "furbaby" mentality (which I find offensive and demeaning towards animals; I think infantilizing pets is very insulting to them.

I don't even know how many times I've seen dogs being "walked" in strollers or riding in shopping carts at the grocery store. It's out of control here!
 

teodora

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If you as an owner can't stop people, by yourself, from petting your dog then you shouldn't have one. It's your job to protect your dog. Not the other way around. No one should be able to simply come up to your dog and pet them. That's just poor leadership.


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I agree. Personally, I bite (well, not literally) - but there are other fellows more polite than me who can't prevent strangers from jumping on their dogs because they're "soo cute". :scared2: I've seen it many times. Prevention is better than dealing with the outcome.
 

7121548

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definitely use a muzzle... And yes, a SCARY one. The scariest one you can find. One that will prevent people from petting him - if they do, they're not safe and he's not safe. It's your job to keep him away from people until you're 100% confident that he won't snap. I suppose you can't physically control a neo determined to launch (I can't) , so a solid muzzle would do.

Yup, once he sees something he wants to run after, it's very difficult to stop him. I have him on an easy walk harness with a double ended leash clipped to both the harness and his collar to keep the harness from sliding down. It's been helpful in stopping him from getting too much momentum.

As much as we avoid people, I did get a muzzle for those just in case moments. It's not uncommon for a drunk, strung out, or mentally unstable person to stumble by, and sometimes I can't even tell when there's a homeless person sleeping under a blanket when it's dark outside. (I'm so over living in this neighborhood, by the way!)
 

teodora

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well... i live in a rural peaceful area (theoretically) but with this justice system I could as well live in a ghetto - doesn't really matter.
The scumbag that broke into our house and attacked us just got away with a suspended conviction today. And kisses in the meaningful parts.
My mastiffs will be put down in they bite anyone: that's the law. They won't get a "suspended sentence". I am not allowed a gun for protection. Police reached my house in 20 minutes. All I seem to be allowed to do is be a victim and then ask for counselling and write pathetic statements - it surely helps... If you try to save your ass you become outlaw. And there isn't anyone else to save it, anyway.
Rant over.
And yes, I have muzzles and crates in the house to protect my pups from protecting me. Not really necessary with the girls yet, even if Luna will be a damn good dog!
 

season

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Yup, once he sees something he wants to run after, it's very difficult to stop him. I have him on an easy walk harness with a double ended leash clipped to both the harness and his collar to keep the harness from sliding down. It's been helpful in stopping him from getting too much momentum.

As much as we avoid people, I did get a muzzle for those just in case moments. It's not uncommon for a drunk, strung out, or mentally unstable person to stumble by, and sometimes I can't even tell when there's a homeless person sleeping under a blanket when it's dark outside. (I'm so over living in this neighborhood, by the way!)

Get a Herm Sprenger prong collar.


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season

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A harness won't correct the pulling. Only encourages it.


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Boxergirl

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Front hook harnesses don't encourage pulling, they aren't made the same as a regular harness. But I agree that a front hook harness isn't the proper tool for this dog in this situation. If you do choose to go with a prong, Herm Sprenger is the only brand to get. Please do make sure to attach it to the regular collar with a carabiner. Prongs have been known to come loose just when you need them most.
 

tlov

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I had a lot of problems with Xena pulling on walks. Treats didn't get her attention at all. I was using a front hook harness and that didn't help either. I started using a prong and now she walks great. I haven't had any problems walking her since we started using the prong.


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Liz_M

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Its been a while since l had a dog l needed to use a prong collar with but l agree, it was the "magic bullet" in getting his attention. He was not aggressive but had a ferocious prey drive and tried to chase cars, squirrels, anything moving and while not a Neo, he was a strong Rottweiler and l am too small to physically control a big dog in full lunge mode! Once he understood it would bring him up short, he calmed down and stopped trying.
I did get the Herm Springer, still have it around here somewhere.