Midas front paws turn out?????

[M & M]

The boys did not come with papers, their parents were rescues, she was pregnant when she was rescued with father..... I tried to get close to the parents to get good look at them but they were having none of that, going nutz so I backed off...... They were very large but I vaguely remember the dad's legs, funny what you remember so long after..... No they turned out, but he was moving & barking in a frenzy.......

 

[ruthcatrin]

Theres likely a genetic component then.

 

[M & M]

Again Mr. Know it All wanted his deal, he got both boys for 800 bucks..... I don't know what he will do about this, flaws are not except able to him..... Welp guess I am going to find out.... Do I have to look at him when I talk to him LMAO....... Ugh I don't wanna... Put your big girl pants on Tracy.....

 

[Smokeycat]

I'm going to second a need for him to see a vet. An abnormal gait and paws that turn out are both symptoms of elbow dysplasia. Kryten was diagnosed about a month ago. According to his surgeon he was born with it and exercise only caused him to become symptomatic. Like Ruth said the earlier it is caught and treated the better. One thing I've learned in the past month is that very few people even know about ED but that many dogs have it I diagnosed for years.

 

[M & M]

Ya he got a deal all right, this is the chance you take when you buy like that..... Me I am head over heels in love with both boyz & would cut my left tit off for them..... Sorry it's true, I would do whatever it takes...... But again I am leaving soon......

 

[Smokeycat]

*undiagnosed

 

[Iymala]

Can you get pictures from the front standing and side standing?

It could be genetic, but it could also be dietary. With raw they could be getting too much or too little calcium and it could cause growth issues. I used to know the math to calculate raw meals based on body weight and estimated adult weight but long forgot it. The people I knew feeding raw years ago to growing pups often had to supplement bone mean to get the %s right for calcium in their growing pups.

Can you see the last 2 ribs during movement? Right now when he is going through a skeletal growth issue he is going to need to be as lean as possible. Any extra weight on those joints will not help the issue and can cause additional issues.

Start supplementing Ester C to help correct the problem as well. I am sure I can find the appropriate dosage if anyone here doesnt know it off the top of their heads.

 

[M & M]

thank you smokeycat, you two made me feel a little better, of course I blamed me... But at least I noticed it & questioned it, will do my best to rectify it.....
Fe Fi Fo Fum only looks to see how big they are....... Ugh

 

[ruthcatrin]

Bone meal would add to much calcium for a giant breed pup, I did the math on here just recently and the PMR 10% bone is perfect for giant breed pups.

 

[M & M]

No both my boyz are lean, bone growth ligaments etc I am anal about their weight.... they are both 165lbs at 1yr 1month......
Midas hates getting his pic taken, this is priceless..... Max is a show off but he doesn't have the problem now does he....
Be right back taking pics........ Oh dosage for ester c would be appreciated thank you..... be back in a few with pics.....

 

[M & M]

You wanna know something we had a diff vet from our reg vet (SHE WAS ON VACATION) for their 1 yr check up & I asked him to check their gait & hips..... KNow what he said Oh that would take about a half hour to do....... Now I am pissed off, I knew there was a reason I asked for that...... SOB & Mr. KnowItAll said or asked nadda during it..... Me I'm a PITA.....

 

[M & M]

That vet, HE RAISES BERMERSE LARGE BREED DOGS????????? HELLLOOOOOOOOO

 

[Iymala]

http://petsalivewest.org/files/8012/8638/6240/T4.jpg

Is an extreme example of ulna osteotomies.

Here is a good read up:
http://www.vetlatranquera.com.ar/pages/wsava2002/Orthopedics16.htm

Here is a good write up on what exactly Ester C does and the benefits and results:
Ester-C: Miracle Cure for Hip Dysplasia???

It looks like the dosage is 2000mg of Ester C a day. I would err on the higher side.

 

[M & M]

ok got pics trying to load them.....

 

[M & M]

 

[ruthcatrin]

Hmm, not an expert, and since they aren't stacked (and I'm sure you couldn't get them to stack) it could be the angle, but that looks like his whole ankle is angled out?

 

[M & M]

 

[M & M]

that is why I am posting this because my gut is telling me something is not right with him...... he runs plays beats the crap out of his bro fine.... but his body alignment is not right, he's always been built like a brick shit house with huge paws....

 

[ruthcatrin]

When he's standing, can you pick up his foot and turn it straight? When you do does he turn it right back out?

 

[M & M]

wow that pic of that poor dog, can't imagine Midas with all his weight on paws joints like that...
thank you for info for ester c & info for elbow displasia....
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