need help with some advice dog biting and growling in temper

[mx5055]

You'll be headed in the right direction if you follow Deb's and DennasMom's advice

 

[Kujo]

There is a difference of showing one's teeth as aggression and showing one's teeth as in play. The pup is 11 weeks old which to me means he's showing his teeth, growling and biting as in play.

It is true that showing teeth, growling and biting are signs of aggression. However, again I believe at 11 weeks old it would be difficult to see aggression. Again, if the same behavior exists at 6 months or later after consistent training, then one could say this could be a sign of aggression.

I believe aggression and puppy (8weeks to about 4 months) should not be used in the same sentence. Puppies need to be shown what they are suppose to do with proper and consistent training. If you are one of the lucky ones who pup doesn't do the the above behavior, then you're one of the lucky ones. Most puppies can exhibit the said behavior while playing.

There is the rare occasion where a pup will be a bad seed and will be bad to the bone, pun intended. In that case, it is bad breeding and the pup usually requires extensive training and/or usually has to be put down.

With that being said, this is my opinion based on experience with puppies and working in shelters.

and this is why I asked because I know you have more experience with puppies than I do. Thanks for sharing

 

[musicdeb]

and this is why I asked because I know you have more experience with puppies than I do. Thanks for sharing

YW

 

[naomi]

Thank you all will keep you posted on how it's going one thing I will say is we weren't playing I was lying his lead on him and he growled and bit my hand then ran to sit under sofa the part that lifts up as it reclines and I approached him saying bad boy and that was when he growled again showing me his teeth looking me straight on in the eye I didn't back down as that would be bad with a ddb so I said bad boy and again he growled and bit the air I has enough so pulled him out of the small space and he bit my arm I told him bed get to bed this went on for a while and finally he walked himself to bed it is extreme for a 11 week old but he is trying a lot like all ddb to be dominant but he will get it just have to keep at it the little so and so Is just pushing his luck

 

[musicdeb]

This episode sounds like that he felt cornered and what do animals do when they feel cornered? They defend themselves. Could you be giving a "negative" feeling towards the pup? Mastiffs can feel your emotions.

I understand you want to have control of your pup but I believe you have a different perspective on control and domination. The pup is not a "thing" to control to the point that you have to dominate him, sorta like I will dominate the world at all costs. Know what I mean? You keep mentioning the pup wants to be dominate when in reality the pup is trying to figure out what you want. DDB's want to please and they are very smart. He is willing to learn but it is up to you to teach him.

Pups require a lot of patience. Pups require consistency in training without negative reinforcements. Pups require lots of love. All of these things make a well-rounded pup who will give you lots of love and loyalty.

Does that make sense?

 

[mx5055]

this episode sounds like that he felt cornered and what do animals do when they feel cornered? They defend themselves. Could you be giving a "negative" feeling towards the pup? Mastiffs can feel your emotions.

I understand you want to have control of your pup but i believe you have a different perspective on control and domination. The pup is not a "thing" to control to the point that you have to dominate him, sorta like i will dominate the world at all costs. Know what i mean? You keep mentioning the pup wants to be dominate when in reality the pup is trying to figure out what you want. Ddb's want to please and they are very smart. He is willing to learn but it is up to you to teach him.

Pups require a lot of patience. Pups require consistency in training without negative reinforcements. Pups require lots of love. All of these things make a well-rounded pup who will give you lots of love and loyalty.

Does that make sense?

^^^^^this^^^^

 

[naomi]

Yeh i get what your saying maybe we are stressing to much on the control thing only because how big he gonna be I get what your saying will try and be less on his case lol he's sleeping now snoring away after a trip to park in sunshine soon as he's awake will teach him stay in garden he makes me laugh he's has moods and bad days just like kids he can be like play with me play with me then it's wound up mood where anything is his path gets picked up and chewed or bites then it awwwwww i love you

 

[musicdeb]

I'm glad it made sense, sometimes typing a message tends to loose some of the meaning. Yes, I agree, you need to relax on the dominating him thing. Relax and enjoy your pup while at the same time training him. Show him what you want him to do. Avoid cornering him.

When I first got Titan he was 2 1/2 yrs old. He was lying under my dining room table and I wanted to walk him. I got under the table to put his leash on because at that time we had not bonded, he growled at me and showed his teeth. Needless to say, I learned not to corner a pup at any age.

Please keep us posted on his progress. Again, relax and show him what you want him to do with positive reinforcement. He's wanting to please you...show him how to do that again with positive reinforcement.

 

[naomi]

Oooohhh dear naughty Zeus he was doin so well today then he started biting my 5 year old on the leg she was saying no Zeus and she was crying because he actually broke the skin but he was playing but rough and she ran away because he was jumping up at her and still biting leg it took me to say Zeus no for him to run away I said get to bed bad boy and he ran in my garden Bush but I went over said it again and he ran inside then I was basically walking in circles with him and then again he went under sofa bit so this time I stood back and said bed which he did I'm sol frustrated that when he gets in these moods all training and listening flys out the window

 

[musicdeb]

The running means play to the pup. It is very normal for a pup to not listen to commands that he is learning, meaning the key is consistency. Believe me when I say, the pup knows you're frustrated and he will shut down and not listen to anything.

May I recommend that you not tell him, "bad boy go to bed"? This is negative reinforcement by the tone of your voice and you're making bed a bad place to him.

I would recommend keeping him on leash when the kids are around so you can have control. For example, when he bites and runs after them you will have control. In a calm, stern voice tell him no and make him sit. When he does it, reward him. You want to reward good behavior.

Patience...relax...put the pup on a leash and remain consistent in training.

 

[naomi]

Again great advice will try this one I really need to practice my calm voice lol and take deep breaths to stay calm will have to find somewhere for a time out zone

 

[musicdeb]

Hope that helps. When I was training Titan, I would get so frustrated and he would shut down causing me to get more frustrated. I didn't know at the time, that is what they do.

When I was aware of Titan shutting down due to my frustration or yelling, when I became frustrated I would walk away and take deep breaths. I no longer yell at Titan and rid myself of the frustration. Titan and I are now bonded and he listens to me about 98% of the time. It will come for you and your pup just relax, breathe and consistent. Put out positive vibes vs negative vibes because he will pick up on your emotions.

 

[NYDDB]

The running means play to the pup. It is very normal for a pup to not listen to commands that he is learning, meaning the key is consistency. Believe me when I say, the pup knows you're frustrated and he will shut down and not listen to anything.

May I recommend that you not tell him, "bad boy go to bed"? This is negative reinforcement by the tone of your voice and you're making bed a bad place to him.

I would recommend keeping him on leash when the kids are around so you can have control. For example, when he bites and runs after them you will have control. In a calm, stern voice tell him no and make him sit. When he does it, reward him. You want to reward good behavior.

Patience...relax...put the pup on a leash and remain consistent in training.

So much good advice here^^^. I'll just chime in (and piggy-back on what musicdeb has said):

I agree with calming down; puppies are can be frustrating, but we really need to keep a cool head and reinforce in a positive manner what we expect of the pup. So, in addition to the "sit" command, maybe try some short obedience sessions with him. This will redirect his attention and bring his attention back on you. Just a few minutes of training/teaching will turn the negative into a positive and also help you bond with him.

I sense that the pup's frustrated...and you are frustrated. If you redirect that energy, it's a win/win, IMO.

 

[NYDDB]

Hope that helps. When I was training Titan, I would get so frustrated and he would shut down causing me to get more frustrated. I didn't know at the time, that is what they do.

When I was aware of Titan shutting down due to my frustration or yelling, when I became frustrated I would walk away and take deep breaths. I no longer yell at Titan and rid myself of the frustration. Titan and I are now bonded and he listens to me about 98% of the time. It will come for you and your pup just relax, breathe and consistent. Put out positive vibes vs negative vibes because he will pick up on your emotions.

I think we were typing at the same time, LOL.

 

[musicdeb]

I think we were typing at the same time, LOL.

Yep...hahahahaha Great minds think alike...

 

[musicdeb]

I wanted to mention to keep the kids off of the floor with the pup. Kids on the floor mean play time for the pup because kids will play with them. If the kids are on the floor, leash the pup so you have control.

 

[angelbears]

I think it is a combination of all the above. Mainly what Tina said. It is a pup being a pup but with a with an overtone of dominance. Usually these dogs are very smart but have to be reeled in at an early age with lots of training. Insistent, consistent, and persistent is the key!

 

[naomi]

Thanks again everyone will do the leash thing plus 5 mins at least a day of training and will keep you all posted x