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Planning to Buy French Mastiff - Need last time suggestions

mcc

Member
Hello, friends

I am in the final stage of purchasing a FM puppy, some 40 days old.

I have a few questions, I hope you would answer :) ::

1. My sister's baby who is 7 months old, is coming in a month to meet me. How good is the puppy/grown dog with strange human babies?

2. This is my first dog. Spending almost 500USD for buying one. Want to make sure if the breed is pure. Is there anyway to confirm this apart from relying on the seller? Because hes' just a middle man and not a breeder himself.

3. What kind of food they like? Veg or non veg or anything? Type of food is not an issue, just want to make sure dog does not get malnutritioned.

Awaiting replies :)
 

KimT

Well-Known Member
$500.00 for a Bordeaux???? Do you know who the breeder is? Your either getting a hell of a deal or I would have a lot of questions on why she is so cheap. I feed grain free..Fromm puppy,still going back and forth about raw,I have 3 so Im not sure it will be affordable for me. Puppies generally like kids unless they have had a bad experience with them.
 

mcc

Member
I am not from US so 500$ is quite a money for me during the times Dollar is getting Expensive :(

Anyways, My main concern is to know how can I check the bred? I mean I dont want to get a dog which I not intend to keep.
 

KimT

Well-Known Member
Contact the breeder yourself,ask for references and call them. Ask for pictures of the parents but then again you are taking a chance with just their word. Ask if they are DNA profiled. If they are AKC registered,check with AKC if there has been any complaints about them. Ask them if it is a repeat breeding,ask for pictures of the previous litter and see if they have the look you want. Its your money..protect it.
 

cinnamon roll

Super Moderator
Super Moderator
Why are you going thru a middle man? that right there sounds like a red flag to me

Hello, friends

I am in the final stage of purchasing a FM puppy, some 40 days old.

I have a few questions, I hope you would answer :) ::

1. My sister's baby who is 7 months old, is coming in a month to meet me. How good is the puppy/grown dog with strange human babies?

2. This is my first dog. Spending almost 500USD for buying one. Want to make sure if the breed is pure. Is there anyway to confirm this apart from relying on the seller? Because hes' just a middle man and not a breeder himself.

3. What kind of food they like? Veg or non veg or anything? Type of food is not an issue, just want to make sure dog does not get malnutritioned.

Awaiting replies :)
 

mcc

Member
They are reputed sellers here. They deal with Army as well. Its just my past experiences with purchases that push me to ask such questions. :p

He sent me a pic. I want a reddish one. But these look more towards white.

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KimT

Well-Known Member
RUN and RUN fast,sounds fishy to me. Even pet Bordeauxs cost $1500.00 or better. Sorry I wouldn't do it.
 

mcc

Member
Me already said no to these puppies. Asked him if he could get some reddish in color. He said give me a day. Lets see if he can get hold of any brown or red ones. CAn you guys, from a picture, tell that the puppy is real FM?
 

KimT

Well-Known Member
155747_10200472825897444_329467654_n.jpg541656_10200472822857368_518080468_n.jpgIndy 1st pic 15 months 2nd picture 9 weeks
Me already said no to these puppies. Asked him if he could get some reddish in color. He said give me a day. Lets see if he can get hold of any brown or red ones. CAn you guys, from a picture, tell that the puppy is real FM?
 

NYDDB

Well-Known Member
I agree- run away from this "deal." I paid $2,500. for my DDB, not an unusual price from a decent breeder.

Don't make a decision that could lead to a great deal of heartbreak down the road. :(

And, yes- at least be able to see the parents, in person, if possible. Ask for health records, etc...
 

mcc

Member
Lets see if he calls me up again. I will ask him if I can see parents. Otherwise I will see some other person to get a dog :)
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Congrats on your new family member~

The following tips/suggestions are based on my experience as a dog mommy, forum member’s posts and volunteering at an animal shelter for a year.

*CRATE THE PUP

You want to crate train the pup. Make sure you have a blanket, stuffed animal (about their size) and white noise (ticking clock or ipod with soft music) so the pup can sleep. The pup is used to cuddling with siblings.

*SECURE THE PUP NEAR THE FAMILY

You want to keep the pup in a room with a family member. Mastiffs need to be near their family members.

*FOOD

Find out what kind of food the shelter/rescue/breeder was feeding the pup and continue to feed it to the pup until you transition to a newer food, if you want. Most shelters/rescues use the cheapest food, meaning it is not very good for the pup.

Slow transition to the new food is as follows to prevent diarrhea. If at any time during the transition, the pup has diarrhea return to previous amounts of food per feeding.

Amount per feeding:

Day 1-4 ¾ cup of old food and ¼ cup of new food.

Day 5-9 ½ cup of old food and ½ cup of new food.

Day 10-14 ¾ cup of new food and ¼ cup of old food

Day 15 Start 100% of new food

Generally, mastiffs are allergic to grain and chicken found in kibble. There are a number of posts on the forum regarding kibble for your new pup. Do a search for food to check them out.

You can check www.dogfoodadvisor.com www.dogfoodanalysis.com On this forum, Smart_Family is our resident food guru.

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/05/31/large-dog-feeding-mistakes.aspx

You may want to check out the raw diet for your pup. Do a forum search for raw or raw diet.

Check out Dr. Becker’s videos on youtube.com for a lot of great information regarding the raw diet.

*PUP NOT EATING WHEN YOU FIRST BRING THEM HOME

They not used to their new environment and this is a natural behavior. Take the pup to a quiet place at meal times and sit and hand feed the pup. This will help the pup to eat when they are placed in a calm atmosphere, helps you to bond with the pup and helps the pup establish trust with you. As they become settled, they will naturally follow your routine.

*GETTING THE PUP USED TO THE LEASH

You want to keep the leash on the pup for a few hours each day while in the house so they gets used to it. This will help when you try to walk him outside.

*PROTECT THE PUP FROM DISEASE

Keep the pup in your yard and place newspapers down where they will walk on the ground. Keep the pup away from dog areas unless they have had their 2nd set of shots, leaving the pup prone to infection with Parvo or other illnesses. This is very important!

*HOUSE TRAINING YOUR PUP

http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/house-training-your-puppy

*TRAINING YOUR PUP

Start basic commands. Train for about 5 minutes per day and slowy increase the training time. Teach one command at a time. Once they master one command, move onto another command.


Number one command is sit. Teach the pup to sit, by placing a treat in front of his head and move it to the back causing him to sit to get the treat. When the pup sits, tell them good sit and give them the treat.

Second command should be "focus/look" This will help you tremendously when the pup is over 100 lbs. Put the pup into sit. With a treat in your hand (let the pup smell it), put the treat up to your eyes and tell the pup to look or focus. They may only do this for about 1-2 seconds. As soon as they look at your eyes, tell them good look or good focus and give the treat. Some mastiffs (DDBs generally) do not like to look anyone in the eyes for long because that means a challenge to them. Titan is up to 35 seconds of looking at me.

Other commands are stay, come, leave it and drop it.

When you are training and when the pup does not do as you ask, then tell him no no no and redirect back to command in a normal voice. The only time a stern and somewhat loud NO should be used is when they are doing something that can cause harm to themselves or others.

For example, when I'm doing the look at me training with Titan. He will look at me and then his eyes will move to the left or right. I say, "no no no, look at me" and he returns to the look to my eyes.

When they do what you want them to do, get all giddy and excited and say, "Yes, good look!" I clap, giggle, and sometimes do a little dance. My dog looks at me like, really woman?

Mastiffs can be extremely stubborn and if you get frustrated with them, they will shut down. Mastiffs do not do well with yelling or hitting. Hitting can result in some unwanted mastiff behavior meaning fear aggression, which equals biting.

*EXERCISE

Puppies can exercise with natural movements and free play like running, stretching, playing on soft surfaces (grass and dirt). This type of exercise is actually healthy and good for their developing bodies but they do need to be able to pace themselves.

Structured exercise/play on hard surfaces and where they don't have they ability to pace themselves is where you need to be very careful. This type of exercise could harm the pup’s joints and bones. Puppies should not do any heavy exercise or walking for the first 1-2 years.

Stairs should be maneuvered while on leash (even in the house) especially going down the stairs. Stairs should have carpet or rubber matting to give the pup traction.

Most mastiffs (DDBs especially) can be very lazy but they still need to exercise. Puppies should not be walked for more than 15-20 minutes for the first 6-8 months and do your best to avoid heavy running or jumping for the first 1-2 years. Excessive jumping, running and long walks (1-2 hours) can cause hip, elbow, knee and joint injuries.

*PUPPY BITING/NIPPING

If you puppy is biting/nipping, then try the following. This behavior can sometimes take a lot of patience and consistency in training.

They bite because that is how they played with their siblings.
When they bite, tell them “OW” in a high-pitched voice and “NO” in a stern, calm voice. NEVER HIT OR YELL AT A MASTIFF. They will shut down on you and ignore you.
When they stop biting, tell them to sit and reward. Tell him “good sit and good no bite.”

*YOUR PUP AND HEAT

Remember, mastiffs do not tolerate heat. In the heat, reduce walk/exercise times. Have clean water available at all times. I freeze towels to either place on Titan or put on the floor for him to lie on in the summer to cool him off. Buy a kiddies’ pool for the pup to play in to keep cool.

*DE-SEXING YOUR PUP

Mastiffs should not be neutered/spayed until 18 months to 2 years. NO MATTER what the vet says. Early neutering can cause growth problems.

Enjoy your baby! Have lots of patience! The pup will reward you with love and loyalty!