Positive reinforcement training??!@!

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

I understand where you going with the dog being able to get hung up and choke, but that would be the case with any collar. I don't leave my dogs in situations where they have a chance to be hung up.

You are right it can happen with any collar, which is why flat collars are kept lose in our house but with a choke, prong, etc. the time it takes you to get there is so much more limited then when using a nylon. Like I said I am happy you haven't had any issues but the accident mentioned above wasn't expected and look what happened I hope you continue to evade any issues but I am a believer in murphy's law and it always bites me in the butt so I am not willing to chance it.

 

[ruthcatrin]

Here's a silly question. Do they make flat dog collars that have a pressure hook on them that will snap if under a certain amount of pressure or pulling? Kind of like what they have for cats. I think they're called safe collars? If the cat gets stuck or hung up on something a separate clip or buckle gives to the pressure & releases the collar from the neck. I think I've seen something similar on a lab, but I'm not sure if that's exactly what it was.

Not that I'm aware of, and I'm not sure I'd trust one to hold if you were using that as your main collar to restrain one of these big guys. They make quick release buckles, but thats not the same thing. What I did, Apollo wears a rolled leather collar sized to slide over his head fairly easily and I attach his tags to that. For leash work we put a different collar on him. Same for Arty.

 

[joshuagough]

Our lab stays out side during work hours wears no collar at all.. the EM is inside only and he wears a choker as his collar, there's nothing for him to be hung up on inside. He isn't left by himself outside of the house for any reason, even if we let him he'd break the door down trying to get back to the a/c =)

You are right it can happen with any collar, which is why flat collars are kept lose in our house but with a choke, prong, etc. the time it takes you to get there is so much more limited then when using a nylon. Like I said I am happy you haven't had any issues but the accident mentioned above wasn't expected and look what happened I hope you continue to evade any issues but I am a believer in murphy's law and it always bites me in the butt so I am not willing to chance it.

 

[Marrowshard]

You're thinking a quick-release kind of collar? I haven't seen one, but that doesn't mean they're not out there. Like ruthcatrin says though if your goal is to use that as a main means of restraint you might be defeating the purpose. I'm thinking of doing the rolled-leather thing, just linked once in the middle solely for ID and tags since 1) it doesn't make sense to attach the tags to a training collar that Oscar doesn't wear all the time and 2) his old wide flat collar where the tags are now doesn't work with the training collars. I was just not using a collar on Oscar while he was in the house but hubby complained there was "nothing to grab onto" just in case. He has a valid point.

~Marrow

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Aha, they do make them. I Googled "break-away collar" and got a bunch of hits for dog collars - some that can be used with a leash - that are designed to snap just like the smaller cat collars.

~Marrow

 

[Marrowshard]

Aha, they do make them. I Googled "break-away collar" and got a bunch of hits for dog collars - some that can be used with a leash - that are designed to snap just like the smaller cat collars.

~Marrow

 

[raechiemay]

I figured a break away collar could just be used as a "tag" collar to wear around the house or yard. Personally, wherever my dogs are, I am so I don't make them wear collars 24/7. For one the jingling of the tags drive me insane when someone has an itch they have to scratch at 3 am. I know I'm running the risk of potentially having a dog dart out the door or some kind of freak accident, but I really do make sure to try my hardest to avoid that at all costs. If people come over & are in & out through the back & front doors, the dogs get locked up.

 

[ruthcatrin]

After hitting google this morning I think if I was going to do a breakaway I'd do this one: http://www.breakawaycollar.com/products.cfm cause the way its set up you can still attach a leash if nessecary and it'd be ok as long as you do it right.

 

[ruthcatrin]

I'm thinking of doing the rolled-leather thing, just linked once in the middle solely for ID and tags since 1) it doesn't make sense to attach the tags to a training collar that Oscar doesn't wear all the time and 2) his old wide flat collar where the tags are now doesn't work with the training collars. I was just not using a collar on Oscar while he was in the house but hubby complained there was "nothing to grab onto" just in case. He has a valid point

Marrow that was our thought, the rolled leather CAN be grabbed easily enough if need be, though Apollo's ruff is a fairly good handle too when need be, and that way we can leave the tags on him safely.

 

[Rugers-Kris]

I, too, have been thinking of something that I can safely leave on Ruger at all times. I am looking for a Martingale at the moment to use for leash activities but I have always just taken Rugers off when we are at home. I am learning, though, like your husband, that I want something to grab, too. Ruger is in a trying stage where he will run to dig a hole, steal a shoe, jump on something he isn't supposed to just because he finds himself amusing and not having something to grab is an added frustration to this whole "Aren't I so cool in this new stage" bit. LOL Maybe I will also get a rolled leather collar for him to wear all of the time and put his tags on.

You're thinking a quick-release kind of collar? I haven't seen one, but that doesn't mean they're not out there. Like ruthcatrin says though if your goal is to use that as a main means of restraint you might be defeating the purpose. I'm thinking of doing the rolled-leather thing, just linked once in the middle solely for ID and tags since 1) it doesn't make sense to attach the tags to a training collar that Oscar doesn't wear all the time and 2) his old wide flat collar where the tags are now doesn't work with the training collars. I was just not using a collar on Oscar while he was in the house but hubby complained there was "nothing to grab onto" just in case. He has a valid point.

~Marrow

---------- Post added at 11:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 PM ----------

Aha, they do make them. I Googled "break-away collar" and got a bunch of hits for dog collars - some that can be used with a leash - that are designed to snap just like the smaller cat collars.

~Marrow

 

[ruthcatrin]

Word of warning, the rolled leather can be hard to find in giant sizes, I special order mine through a locally owned place, but there are a couple places that do them custom too. In the products topic is a tthread I started a while back last time I was looking with a bunch of suggestions in it.

 

[Rugers-Kris]

Thanks, Ruth. I will go look that up. It's funny how just about the time I am considering something or needing an answer, a thread shows up with all my needed info in it.

Word of warning, the rolled leather can be hard to find in giant sizes, I special order mine through a locally owned place, but there are a couple places that do them custom too. In the products topic is a tthread I started a while back last time I was looking with a bunch of suggestions in it.