Penelope's Mom
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I may still keep her vet appointment because I will have to increase her food at some point in her life. I'll wait to see how she does over the weekend and decide on Monday.
Marke: "I'm sure" is nice and all, but where did you get your numbers from?? And just based on your own numbers, giving a puppy a drumstick would be supplementing with calcium, so please make up your mind on what you're trying to say.
I would not think of giving a dog a bone as supplementing with calcium anymore than i'd consider adding pumpkin to their diet as supplementing with vitamin a ....... I've watched food/feeding fads since the internet , and honestly I've not seen them solve any health issues ........ these mb's are cluttered with dog health problems , none of them have ever been my dogs , makes me wonder why ???????Composition
Bone itself consists mainly of collagen fibres and an inorganic bone mineral in the form of small crystals. In vivo bone (living bone in the body) contains between 10% and 20% water. Of its dry mass, approximately 60-70% is bone mineral. Most of the rest is collagen, but bone also contains a small amount of other substances such as proteins and inorganic salts.
Collagen is the main fibrous protein in the body. It has a triple helical structure, and specific points along the collagen fibres serve as nucleation sites for the bone mineral crystals. This is shown in the animation below.
The composition of the mineral component can be approximated as hydroxyapatite (HA), with the chemical formula Ca[SUB]10[/SUB](PO[SUB]4[/SUB])[SUB]6[/SUB](OH)[SUB]2[/SUB]. However, whereas HA as has a Ca ratio of 5:3 (1.67), bone mineral itself has Ca ratios ranging from 1.37 - 1.87. This is because the composition of bone mineral is much more complex and contains additional ions such as silicon, carbonate and zinc.
Cartilage is a collagen-based tissue containing very large protein-polysaccharide molecules that form a gel in which the collagen fibres are entangled. Articular, or hyaline, cartilage forms the bearing surfaces of the movable joints of the body. Mechanically, articular cartilage behaves as a linear viscoelastic solid. It also has a very low coefficient of friction (< 0.01), largely attributed to the presence of synovial fluid that can be squeezed out upon compressive loading.
The animation below allows you to explore the microstructure of cortical bone.
I would not think of giving a dog a bone as supplementing with calcium anymore than i'd consider adding pumpkin to their diet as supplementing with vitamin a ....... I've watched food/feeding fads since the internet , and honestly I've not seen them solve any health issues ........ these mb's are cluttered with dog health problems , none of them have ever been my dogs , makes me wonder why ???????
Well, I think I have the poop thing figured out but now she's back to eating it. Ugh. I can't win.
university of Cambridge ..............I didn't know I was "arguing" about the calcium content of a bone ? I don't think a chicken leg a day will harm a puppy , I actually think it would be good for it as long as you kept the pup lean and exercised properly ................ when you remove the marrow , cartilage , and connective tissue , i'd like to see the study that says bone compromises 30% of a chicken leg by weight ...... whatever amount bone does compromise , 65% of the dry weight is calcium phosphate , and of that 60% is calcium and 40% is phosphorus ....... not that I believe any of it matters . the dailey recommended dosage of vitamin a for a dog is 2272 iu per pound of food , canned pumpkin contains 4358 iu of vitamin A per ounce , along with 63mg of calcium , 87mg phosphorus , 505mg potassium and 56mg of magnesium ............what is it you give your puppies to chew on ?Ok....so where are you quoting from?? Not that you've bothered to answer that question the last several times I asked....
How can you NOT consider adding bone to their diet a supplementation of calcium?? You're the one arguing for bones to have a really high calcium content. And you're the only one saying pumpkin's a vitamin, fiber would be more correct....
Penelope has had almost perfect poop this weekend, so I'm calling to cancel her vet appointment this morning.
Thanks to everyone who helped me get to the bottom of this and helping P with her poop problems.
university of Cambridge ..............I didn't know I was "arguing" about the calcium content of a bone ? I don't think a chicken leg a day will harm a puppy , I actually think it would be good for it as long as you kept the pup lean and exercised properly ................ when you remove the marrow , cartilage , and connective tissue , i'd like to see the study that says bone compromises 30% of a chicken leg by weight ...... whatever amount bone does compromise , 65% of the dry weight is calcium phosphate , and of that 60% is calcium and 40% is phosphorus ....... not that I believe any of it matters . the dailey recommended dosage of vitamin a for a dog is 2272 iu per pound of food , canned pumpkin contains 4358 iu of vitamin A per ounce , along with 63mg of calcium , 87mg phosphorus , 505mg potassium and 56mg of magnesium ............what is it you give your puppies to chew on ?
personally i don't believe the entire drumstick weighs much more than 48 grams ......Your average bone in drumstick contains about 48 grams of bone,
.So that brings us to 3.84grams of bone,
(and since you missed the whole point of this thread. Franklin's mom was trying to find a solution for her dog that didn't require her to give pumpkin all the time. Try reading next time, k?)
So giving her an extra chicken drumstick a day doubles her calcium intake.
She's less than 1yr old.
Are you TRYING to screw up her growth?