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Urgent Help! Bowed Leg/ Knuckling Over puppy potential?

musicdeb

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Since he has to remain on the lean side due to his leg issues, I would feed him 2% of expected weight rather than 3%. Keep an eye on his body condition to be sure he doesn't get too lean.
 

corsotx

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Is it necessary for me to check with the vet now? Or I could try taping the puppy as per picture.

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DMikeM

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I read up on taping and it can help but I would be afraid to do it myself. Might be too tight might be too loose, dog will chew it off and waste my time. I think they make socks or compression tubes for this too but for me it was just too easy to feed him right and get some exersize on those joints. I feel Odi started his issue because I had him crated too much and he was not getting a good balance of Cal/Phos plus he was growing really, really fast. So fast actually that I was feeding him 4 to 6 lbs of meat per day plus 2 to 3 cups of kibble and he always looked like I was not feeding him. So I started adding 2 eggs a day plus rice and pasta at night 2 times a week. He filled out ever so slightly and his growth evened out. I took him hiking and to the lake where it is muddy and soft and his legs got strong in no time at all.

In December 2014 his legs and feet were perfect.
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If you look here 01/24/2014 you can see his front paws have just a little bit of flipper foot.
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So I researched found the Sure Grow and exersize instructions and by 02/10/2014 his legs started to straighten out.
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By 05/20/2014 his legs looked good but sometimes he would look a little easty/westy in front and cowhocked in the back. But we have worked that out too for the most part.
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At just a year old 10/26/2014 no more easty/westy or cowhocks.
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I believe that these problems are not inherted as much as environmental. Proper feeding and exersize will give you a strong dog with good legs. Oh and leaving them intact with all their gonads helps too.
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corsotx

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Thank you Mike for the pictures. We have found areas where he could walk on sand (beach volleyball), slight muddy park with about 25 deg incline, kiddie ground with small marbles, gravel like areas and areas that have stretch of grass. All in one area =)

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About taping, we, are also very skeptical about potential rashes if we didn't monitor it right. Were you afraid that Obi's flipper feet wouldn't straighten out if you didn't tape it?
 

DMikeM

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No I never thought he would be stuck with the problem. I had enough data in my mind that told me it was correctable if I went after it aggressively.
 

corsotx

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Thank you all. Gotten all the supplements. Will update in a couple of weeks. I hope it will be good news and for all the other owners.
 

DMikeM

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Oh fantastic, I ordered a couple bottles of the Sure Grow yesterday too just in case the pups need them. I bet you will see some difference in the first week. Keep us updated.
 

corsotx

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Here's the update. Food intake has been reduced, adding salmon oil, feeding 1.5 tablets Sure Grow 100 and walking/running on grass, gravel, sand, mud as much as possible.

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Still, flipper feet is very concerning :(
 

DMikeM

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it's not as bad and looks like they are coming up. Do you have any steps he could go up? Just a small amount and make sure to assist him going down steps until a year or so old.
 

corsotx

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He is restricted from going up stairs. We are walking him on hills, slopes, or anything that is not asphalt.
 

DMikeM

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Going up stairs is fine it is just going down that is a problem. The action used to go up stairs will develop those tendons and muscles that are weak and causing the flippers. This is why we use uneven ground, rock piles and sandy areas to help develop a proper stifle and pastern.
 

corsotx

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Just leaving the vet, they were saying his front right paw, giving us pain meds and antibacterial meds just in case something in his bone, suggested puppy food to get the proper vitamins, told him that he's on some supplements but wasn't sure what and guess they didn't have it on record here. Suggested something we've been doing, limited activity and if it gets worse possible let x-ray. I kept on asking about relation to his flipper foot and they didn't really address that.

 

musicdeb

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I was thinking about you the other day, good to see your post. The vet must not agree with feeding raw diet since he recommended a puppy food. What did the vet diagnosis for the front right paw?
 

corsotx

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Updates. Got 2 weeks of antibiotic and painkiller for the puppy. The vet thought it might be parasite from the food. We thought that it might just be the sprain as he is not limping as much now. We figured we should x ray the puppy upon completing the course of medication.

I will update photo of his feet soon.
 

corsotx

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The vet isn't sure. Both breeder and vet mentioned panosteitis. It is raining now. Will try taking clearer picture whenever possible.