aceoutdoor
Well-Known Member
Hulk and Thor, ALL HAIL THE QUEEN!!!!
oh brother... go to Brazil for a few days and look at the nonsense....Borghetto kennels was a very well known mixed breeder and paper hanger as are most of the current cbkc kennels. I've visited some kennels while on my trip and I can tell you it is very much still happening. I seen pups suckling off a CAFIB bitch who the breeder was already stating that those pups were actually from 2 black parents... It is very obvious why they do this... it is so that the dogs under their name gain legitimacy.
He bought the pup from a reputable breeder
ahahahahahaha.trolls need food too!
Plus i have nothing to do while i get my weiner unstuck from between my legs....
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Dogman#1, you say Ace is deflecting questions then just keep asking for pics of his dogs but yet you won't address the fact that you placed a puppy with a guy who doesn't even try to hide the fact that he is into fighting dogs. I'm not just taking Aces word, I looked into it myself, Albanylou, some wannabe rapper who glorifies the fact that his dogs are "dead game" and raps about fighting dogs. The video of him doing a temperament test on the dog he got from you is the only video he has that has nothing to do with dog fights, plus that video he has the fila tied to a pole and let's it run full speed only to reach the end of the chain and violently snatch himself back by his collar, just asking for an injury. So my question is if you love the breed and want to better it, why would you put a puppy in the hands of a guy like this. He didn't want a fila because of the nobility and loyalty of the breed, he wanted it because he's a sorry ass thug who wanted a badass dog to walk around trying to look hard. The same reason all the thugs in the ghetto wanted pit bulls, just to portray some image, but I'm sure you have a good reason for selling this guy a puppy right?
OMG, Kris! Thank you!!!!
I was so afraid that you had drunk the kool-aid. Your message is right on. RESEARCH, it is becoming harder to find a good Fila from either group. I would not buy a Fila without seeing the parents and their temperament. Buy the dog, not the club.
BTW, this is nothing compared to what I have seen in other forums.
Rugers-Kris Haven*t seen you post here in a while, figured you were still reading. You made an honest, and for the most part accurate statement. For the record here, I was a silent observer on the old forums, when just a few years ago Juan got his first dog. From the beginning he teamed up with some hardcore Cafib people who besides the ones who left the breed, still today on other pages berate anyone who does not follow the Cafib line of strict thinking. I silently watched as they literally tore people down for owning a certain color and told them to cull their dogs. I saw people looking for a black Fila for instance, treated so badly just for wanting info that they called Juan a douchebag and left the forum. I tried to contact them to help them but were unable to until I saw them on another forum and they had already purchased a puppy. Guess where they bought it, Lions Den. Now ironically although Juan would buy a dog from Lion*s Den after calling them a puppy mill, I on the other hand would do anything to help someone avoid any place like that. Why put any money in their pockets? After I saw him drive that guy away into their hands, that*s when I started speaking out, exposing them for the hypocrites they are. If I am abrasive, so be it, just a taste of their own medicine. I don*t like him, or his tactics. I don*t like the hypocrisy of the Cafib, and I expose it. I don*t think CBKC is doing anything to better the breed. But these are just clubs, registers in the CBKC instance and have no real affect on what what breeders do. I guess my point is I didn*t pick a fight, I wanted to show the truth. But a fight came, and just like a Fila, I ain*t backing down. For the few people I was snappy with without reason, I apologized to them. I care about the breed past, present and future. Back to your regular scheduled Fila drama.
I know how smart you are Kris. I also know about infatuation... I've woke up more times than I'm willing to admit with a 5 inch dick, unemployed jerk laying next to me. I swear the night before he had said he was a lawyer and the bulge in the pants sure lead me to believe I would be getting something better than I actually got. LOL
I can never help myself and must read these threads in thier entirety. LOL Personally, I love the FILA. LOVE them. I do not now, nor have I ever owned a Fila but the breed amazes me. I have read all of the threads, joined some forums and facebook pages, researched the history. Invested in many books that I read front to back more than once and spoken with experienced people on both "sides" and have drawn my own conclusions. I will, without a doubt, own a Fila someday and I will not be looking for CAFIB or Non-Cafib, I will be looking at specific dogs and bloodlines and deciding from there where to go next. I couldn't be a part of the CAFIB group because, although I feel like they started out with a great idea and a fantastic way to try to "save the breed", I don't think that they have monitored themselves in a way that would allow it to come to fruition correctly but in the same breath they are just as many fanatics on either side of this discussion which is why I intend to find the dogs I like...do my research and use this process to find the Fila puppy that I am looking for when the time comes.
For those of you reading this thread that are unfamiliar with this "battle" you need to understand that this fight has been going on for a very long time and the lyrics never really change. In my opinion, Juan and Ace get so caught up in putting each other down and trying to "out do" each other that there doesn't end up being much to learn about Fila's for those of us who truly have an interest in the breed and what they really are supposed to be which is sad because both of them have knowledge and lots of it that would be better shared honestly and directly to allow people to learn about this amazing breed, which in turn (At least in my opinion) would definitely be better for preserving the breed.
My advice for anyone that is truly interested in the breed is research on your own and find knowledgeable people (on both sides) that ae capable of discussing the breed without trying to tear someone else down.
For those of you with no interest in the Fila and have just shown up for the child like drama..You have hit the jackpot....Stay right where you are and enjoy the show.
You should always check the good prior to transporting them.
I have told you from day 1, find the dog you like not the club. It was reading old papers and chats and just reading other forums and pages that I learned to not really care what group one likes. It's amazing what is out there to read just a translation click away