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What you allow is what you get.

season

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"So many dog behavior issues stem from dogs developing bad habits, because they've been allowed to. Barking, reactivity, pulling, jumping, guarding/protectiveness, resource guarding etc., they've all been allowed to be practiced, slowly deepened, and intensified. Once deeply patterned they become automatic reactions. Our job is to make sure we address anything we don't like as soon as we see it. Correct the jumping, get the dog to walk without pulling, stop the barking, address the reactivity. Unwanted behaviors can only occur if they're allowed.

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DennasMom

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I've heard that before, maybe stated another way...

There's a bunch of stuff dogs would like to do, and try to do, because they're animals. If you don't disagree with the behavior (most of which is natural dog behavior), than you agree with it (by default)...
 

tmricciuto

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I tell people this all the time. If you don't object to something then you are condoning it. Works in real life and with our pets.
 

teodora

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I think the hardest part is not to object or communicate straight into their dog minds what exactly we want, but to prevent them from making their own choices -to prevent them from wanting something else more than they want to listen to us. And yes, there are consequences: ie he goes to his crate with a dignified look when he 's over playing around, so he knows and own the consequences.
 

Ssams

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going to the crate? is that an effective timeout? i thought i read not to do that - maybe it was just during crate initiation. i did this for the first time last night because our 11 week old BM would not stop barking / play biting my daughter. he proceeded to destroy the sleeping pad (large stuffed pillow he sleeps on) in about 10 minutes. prior to that we were strictly trying 'no', ignoring him, redirection of attention. all of which seem not to work. i am trying to find an effective tool to get him to stop the play biting, barking, and lack of respect for my 15 yr old daughter among other things.
 

Hiraeth

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going to the crate? is that an effective timeout? i thought i read not to do that - maybe it was just during crate initiation. i did this for the first time last night because our 11 week old BM would not stop barking / play biting my daughter. he proceeded to destroy the sleeping pad (large stuffed pillow he sleeps on) in about 10 minutes. prior to that we were strictly trying 'no', ignoring him, redirection of attention. all of which seem not to work. i am trying to find an effective tool to get him to stop the play biting, barking, and lack of respect for my 15 yr old daughter among other things.

Redirection takes time and effort to show results. I assume you've had your 11 week old puppy for 3 weeks? That's not nearly long enough to see direct and definitive results from redirection, especially when it comes to impulse control behaviors like mouthing and barking. Titan stopped mouthing me hard enough to make me bleed sometimes at 4 months old.

This is a wonderful article when it comes to dealing with puppies: Its a Puppy, not a Problem! | denisefenzipetdogs

Also, does your daughter work on training with him? He will have no motivation to "listen" to or "respect" her if she isn't directly involved with positive interactions and only says "no" to him when he does something wrong.
 

Ssams

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Thanks. You are correct - we have had him three weeks. I will check the article out. Yes she does take an active roll in all aspects of his daily life. She is the one that taught him to sit which he does quite well. She is very active with him.

Thanks again


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season

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going to the crate? is that an effective timeout? i thought i read not to do that - maybe it was just during crate initiation. i did this for the first time last night because our 11 week old BM would not stop barking / play biting my daughter. he proceeded to destroy the sleeping pad (large stuffed pillow he sleeps on) in about 10 minutes. prior to that we were strictly trying 'no', ignoring him, redirection of attention. all of which seem not to work. i am trying to find an effective tool to get him to stop the play biting, barking, and lack of respect for my 15 yr old daughter among other things.
That should come as u establish rules and boundaries. One of the best throng u can do for a dog is teach the place command. It's a great way to work on impulse control. It's work for a pup/dog to just lay on its mat or whatever. As they get better increase the duration. It's a beautiful thing. Plenty of vids and how to vids on here. Also a dog needs to learn the value of the word No. If u don't like something correct. Redirect. Praise for what u want. All part of being a leader for your dog. Otherwise they will do what works for them


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season

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Also work on getting your dog to focus on you. There are so many things u can get them to do when they are in tune with you instead of being detached.


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Ssams

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Yea, I think this is where I need to start. There are many times he just completely ignores us - like when he is trying to get the cat to play ( who is NOT interested at all) or when he is going after my daughter. When he is paying attention, he is much easier to control.


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season

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Yep. Start it right away. Dogs do what works for them. They need that leadership and guidance so they can learn how to live with u and your family. I tell many ppl who end up with a bratty entitled dog to work less on giving affection and more on establishing rules etc. Affection is the easy part and the part that feels good to us. But it's not what the dog needs most.


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Ssams

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So the trick is how do you get their attention in those situations?


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season

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Work on engagement exercises. The simple sit with eye contact. Learning the word NO. It needs to be believable. Correct it for not doing what u want and praise the hell out of it for doing what u want. Rewards. Crate train. Place command. Keep it on a leash while inside. Control its every move while its learning the rules and boundaries. Don't feed into the excitement. Teach your kids how to properly interact. They can be the trigger because they want to play and excite but don't like it when the dog returns the favor. Make your dog earn its attention through good behaviors.


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season

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Is your daughter respecting the dog? Most ppl don't ask that question. Your daughter needs to be a part of its training. Your dog shouldn't be looked at play thing for your daughter. That screws dogs up. It keeps them in an excited stage. I'd teach your daughter to be indifferent to the dog. Teach them both good boundaries. I used place command from the day I brought him home. I also taught Solo the word no means no. Not negotiable. Period. I also had him with his prong collar on and on leash at all times except crate time. I controlled every second of his day. He learned real quick that I was the one to look to for everything. Some may think, Chad's mean. Chad intimidated his dog. Chad's no fun etc. Well, because I spent more time on rules, boundaries, limitations from the beginning. Because I didn't negotiate. Because I only shared affection when it was earned. Because I did those things I now have a two yr old who is a calm, well behaved balanced dog.


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season

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Do what works for u. But if u have a puppy that isn't listening then what you're doing isn't working. Feel free to PM me if I want. I'd be happy to talk to u via Skype or FaceTime if u want.


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teodora

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On leash at all times except crate - doesn't it create a frustrated dog with too much energy? Just asking.


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Hiraeth

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It's called the umbilical method, and no, if the dog is getting enough physical and mental stimulation, it does not at all frustrate the dog.