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Wow how unexpected! Neo attacks.

voidecho

Well-Known Member
Hmmm...wonder if it was the owner or a dog walker walking the dog. They called the person the handler, not the owner.
 

voidecho

Well-Known Member
Reading some of the comments. I love people that think EM's and BM's are dangerous agressive attack dogs just because they're large. Who knows if these stats are correct, but if so EM's and BM's are waaaay down the list of dangerous dogs.

Looks like Lassie crossbreeds are more dangerous than EM's and BM's combined.

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purtypaws

Member
poor kid, I hope she recovers well...

I expect these type of attacks will become more commonplace, a few years ago all the 'hardest' people :rolleyes: in my neighborhood strutted their stuff with a staffy, they were quickly replaced by husky / akita type dogs and just lately I've noticed an influx of american bulldogs / mastiffs.

I've only had one incident myself where a friend was walking with his 3 month old puppy, a young lad with a cane corso walked up to him and asked him what kind of dog it was, he then nonchantly walked away a few paces, let his corso off his lead and told him to 'get it' I have no doubt in my mind that my friends puppy would be dead if my friend had not immediately picked his pup up and pushed the corso away, my friends first impression of a corso = devil dog, and though he knows that it was not the dogs fault he will always expect the worst from that breed.

god willing this latest trend will burn out before too many people are injured and too many good dogs find themselves in shelters or worse.
 

voidecho

Well-Known Member
I always carry a very, very sharp knife in my pocket when I walk Lincoln. If another dog starts to attack I wil not hesitate to use it. I know it's not the dog's fault, but my job is to protect my dog, not someone else's.
 

kbuchanan66

Well-Known Member
I hate news like this as they NEVER convey the whole story properly. They "Say" the child was just walking by with her cousin. Were they really though? I know a lot of kids that age jumping, running, talking loudly and excited and flailing arms. Now I am not saying that this happened but just the way the writer writes the column depends how the public sees it.
 

Alysse

New Member
This is a terrible story, but you are right, they never convey the whole story and thats the problem. Now people who are afraid of these dogs for simple lack of knowledge can try and push through another breed specific ban based on vague articles and loosely based facts.

In Ontario we have a Pitbull ban that has been in place since 2005 I believe. They did a recent study and found that dog attacks and bites have not decreased since the ban came into effect... Blame needs to be placed on the owners in these situations, not the breed.
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Love how they can't get their stories straight. In the first one the dog's a Neo and being walked by someone, in the second its a BM and escaped from its yard.....

And yah, there's MUCH more information that really needs to be conveyed. The kid was "walking" but young kids tend to bounce everywhere, and waive their arms, and talk quickly in high pitched voices.....which can be very exciting for some dogs, its not the kid's fault true, but still. Or if the dog DID escape from the yard, where the kids standing outside the fence taunting the dog? Kids do that ALL THE TIME. They think they're safe behind the fence and think its funny when teh dog gets worked up. And frankly in that case I don't blame the dog AT ALL....the property kitty corner to me has two intact (male and female) GSDs restrained by ONLY an efence. And I have watched the neighborhood kids taunt those dogs....I've yelled at them myself on several occasions, to be told that "that dog's to scared to come over here".....and I swear to god, as much as I personally really DO NOT LIKE those two dogs, if they EVER go through that efence to attack one of those kids I WILL be testifying on the dogs' behalf....
 

taraann81

Well-Known Member
I dont think even if the kid was bouncing flailing and talking in a high pitch voice....that that should be posted in the news atory....It is NOT the kids fault PERIOD....and if they did state the child was "running" past, waving her arms and talking high pitched it would be a disservice to a 4 year old child attempting to place any blame on them. Kids by nature.do theae things, and it does not make it any less of the ownera fault that a kid was acting like a kid on public property whwn theie dog eacapes and attacked. Purposely taunting the dog ia different, but still I believw the reaposiblity lays on the owner to protect thwir dog from A-such situations if possible and B- from being able to escape. Responsiblilty also lays on the parents of the attackes child in the "taunting" situation for not teaching there child "safe" dog behaviour.....even still the ultimate onus is on the dogs owner as they are not in control of the actions of othera but should be in control of there dogs at all times....but this is just my opinion...and you know what they say about those....."Opinions are like a$$holes, everbody has 1" ;)
 

Tiger12490

Well-Known Member
Where in the hell were all the adults....there are 2 things in this situation that probably didn't excatly understand what was going on, the child and the dog. We know how dogs and children can be... there should of been a level adult head on both ends to either control the dog or the child or both...if I thought my dogs could get out of the fence (in my case im sure of) id be outside everytime my dogs were out there...and my 5 year old goes no where without someone who can defend him in my absence. ..fail fail fail. ..this is a fail scenario where a child gets a hospital visit and a dog gets a needle and both are a damn shame because it could of been prevented ....cull the humans....

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Rugers-Kris

Well-Known Member
So sad for the child and the dog. I am sorry to hear that this has happened. I certainly don't think that looks like a Bull Mastiff, though.
 

northernmastiff

Well-Known Member
The latest update. The girl was 5 years old and it is a mastiff breed but they are not specifying the breed any more (which often means it was a mix). The dog was often seen roaming the neighbourhood off lead, which makes it a problem with the owner, not the dog and definitely not the child. Sad state of affairs this is. Thankfully the little girl is in stable condition.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...somption-st-sulpice-girl-attacked-by-dog.html
 
These kinds of stories kill me mainly because of the comments I see in dog breed forums like this. Yes, this is probably a case of bad ownership. Yes, that really sucks for the dog. But that still doesn't change the fact that this dog brutally attacked a child. I love my mastiff, but if he ever did something like this I'd put him down myself. Please think before you speculate about how children are always bouncing around and being rambunctious. That's what childred do! It's not their fault if a dog gets out. Just stinks that there aren't more people here concered that perhaps that kid might have a malformed face for the rest of her life. This is not meant to attack anyone. I just want people to realize that any dog breed can become like this without proper ownership.
 

voidecho

Well-Known Member
Believe me...I feel awful for the little girl. The dog was put down and the owner should be held responsible.
 

dsmith91163

Well-Known Member
I agree that the owner should pay some sort of price for not making sure her dog was secured in her home...when my 4 dogs are out side I have stood there and watch the neighbors little girl barking at my dogs so I told her that was not very nice and she needed to stop doing that but I put my dogs inside the house right away cuz the little girl just stood there looking at me in shock that I told her to stop ..so now my dogs are brought in when I know the kids are outside cuz I do not want those kids to make my dogs hate kids or people...but my dogs only go outside for 30 min play time or potty they are indoor 4 legged family members..plus I have a double chain link fence around my house so there is no way they can get out..and they really dont want to leave they have it to good at my house..But it is still sad about that little girl I hope the doctors can fix her..but I know for a fact she will be afraid of dogs from this point on and dogs will sense it
 

northernmastiff

Well-Known Member
I care about the kid in this situation. Kids do stupid things (silly, dangerous, etc) and while the dog may have been set off by the kid, it is not the kid to blame. Blame falls on the owner. In one of the news stories, the woman was outside working on her garden with the dog in the front yard with her. She had no control as her attention was not on her dog. When I am working in the front yard, the dog is leashed and tied to a tree so she can't do anything but lay down in a designated spot or she is inside. (Usually the latter, my backyard is fully fenced so she can wander when I am working in the backyard) The only time she is off lead on my front lawn is when I have my attention 100% on her. Not because I don't trust her but because I know things can happen. Something might set her off, or more likely, a dog will come out of nowhere since we live right beside a hiking trail.

In addition, another news report said the woman has been given several warnings to improve the quality of her fence to prevent something like this from happening. My younger brother was attacked by a doberman who hopped the fence of his backyard. 72 stitches to his face. Any dog can attack and as responsible dog owners, we need to be sure that we are doing everything in our power to ensure that it does not happen. Training, proper fencing, keeping the dog leashed off the property, etc. The owner did not do this and neighbors had complained repeatedly about the dog being loose. The owner is completely responsible for this happening.

My biggest problem is the comments that have people screaming for BSL after each attack. People want mastiff breeds put on the BSL after this incident. Studies have shown that over 20 years, these breeds aren't as devastating as people believe. In fact, some breeds are far worse than a mastiff breed. For instance, if you asked what a person would feel safer with, a husky or a Presa, most people would say Husky since very few know the Presa and most think that they are extremely aggressive, not to be trusted dogs. However, it is the husky that has more fatalities (15 in 20 years) than the Presa. No one would talk about banning the husky, but the Presa is banned in several countries.

The reason why dog lovers, especially those who own breeds targeted by BSL, are asking what the kid did, is not because they don't feel for the child or hope for a speedy recovery with few scars. It is because they are worried of the repercussions that one stupid dog owner will cause for the responsible owners of that respective breed. I think everyone would tell you they are concerned for the child but their gut instinct is to wonder what this will mean for the breed.