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About to be a mastiff mommy!

afidz

Active Member
Hey guys
I live in the Dallas area. We are expecting our mastiff to be born tomorrow and come home sometime in the beginning of August. We are getting a boy, his name is Apollo. We have intentions of training Apollo (the god of healing) to be a therapy dog. I am chronically ill and want to find a way to give to the medical community. We have never had a mastiff before but my boyfriend trained our current dog and he is the best dog anyone could ask for so I have faith that he can train Apollo and train me on how to train him.

So some other points to address- Our dog Rufus just underwent surgery on his knee to repair the cartilage that he tore a few weeks ago. With him having that injury, and the need to protect Apollo's joints from damage, we are going to build them a ramp to get in and out of the car. Has anyone ever built one? I am hoping to be buying an SUV soon and we definitely don't want either of them trying to jump out of the car.

Lastly, I have SCOURED the web looking for anything bad on the breeder we are going through. I haven't found a single bad thing about her and she has been nothing but nice and informative since we started this journey. However, we have NOT been to her facility. Everytime we have scheduled either her or I have had to cancel. I am trying not to be naive, but I really don't think she is a scam artist or a bad breeder. She seems like she genuinely cares about the breed and the pups that leave her facility. I have seen a lot of people in the Dallas area, has anyone ever gone through Terri with North Texas Mastiffs? I did a lot of research on her, and everything she has told me about her past and present mastiffs I have found to be true on various websites, so she can't be all that bad can she?
 

Slinger-girl

Well-Known Member
I have not heard about them one way or another, so cannot advise for or against. They don't have pedigrees posted, so I am unfamiliar with the lines they are using but their dog's appear to be well cared for from the pictures. I did not see a contract displayed, did you get a copy of one?

However, I would caution getting a pup from any breeder willing to let them go prior to 8 weeks of age. If the pups are due tomorrow, you shouldn't be getting one until mid August at 8 weeks of age, anything earlier than that is inviting trouble with behavioral issues etc. Doesn't mean it will happen but the likely hood that it can increases dramatically ever week a puppy is not with its litter mates. 8 weeks should be the youngest.

Sorry, never had a ramp, so not advice there.

Best Wishes!!!!
 

afidz

Active Member
Thanks for replying
She did give me the pedigree and I did find them on the AKC website I think, he's coming from very strong blood.
I did my math wrong, she's not letting the puppies go until 8 weeks.
There was a contract that we signed
 

Slinger-girl

Well-Known Member
good to hear!! Sometimes calculating the weeks is a pain in the rump, especially when anticipating something so fun!! Congrats I hope you end up with a happy, healthy puppy and a breeder who will be with you on your new journey, sounds like a good start!!
 

afidz

Active Member
The breeder just in formed me that she is concerned about reabsorbtion. She is taking her to the vet tomorrow. She isn't sure if she has lost the whole litter or not. I am 3rd pick, so hopefully I will still get a puppy
 

Slinger-girl

Well-Known Member
Breeding animals is never a "sure thing" and occasionally crap just happens this is why most breeders don't take deposits prior to birth, just too many variables and things just dont pan out. Hopefully this isn't the case here and she has a healthy litter.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Welcome aboard, fellow Texan~ Keep us posted on your new arrival.


The following tips/suggestions are based on my experience as a dog mommy, forum member*s posts and volunteering at an animal shelter for a year.

*CRATE THE PUP

You want to crate train the pup. Make sure you have a blanket, stuffed animal (about their size) and white noise (ticking clock or ipod with soft music) so the pup can sleep. The pup is used to cuddling with siblings.

Make the crate the pup*s happy place to go to when he wants to sleep, decompress or just hang out.

*SECURE THE PUP NEAR THE FAMILY

You want to keep the pup in a room with a family member. Mastiffs need to be near their family members.

*FOOD

Find out what kind of food the shelter/rescue/breeder was feeding the pup and continue to feed it to the pup until you transition to a newer food because most shelters/rescues/breeders use the cheapest food, meaning it is not very good for the pup.

Slow transition to the new food is as follows to prevent diarrhea. If at any time during the transition, the pup has diarrhea return to previous amounts of food per feeding. If you are switching flavors made by the same manufacturer, you should not have to do a slow transition.

Amount per feeding:

Day 1-4 ¾ cup of old food and ¼ cup of new food.

Day 5-9 ½ cup of old food and ½ cup of new food.

Day 10-14 ¾ cup of new food and ¼ cup of old food

Day 15 Start 100% of new food

Generally, mastiffs are allergic to grain and chicken found in kibble. You can check www.dogfoodadvisor.com for dog food ratings and customer feedback. Mastiff puppies should eat Large Breed puppy food and they can continue to eat the food all of their lives or you can switch them to a Large Breed Adult Food at about 8-10 months.

Check out Acana Regionals, Wellness Core, Earthborn Holistics, Fromm*s or Taste of the Wild. Chewy.com is a great place to order dog food.

You may want to check out the raw diet for your pup. Check out the sub forum on raw diet that has a wealth of information. It is not recommended to feed the pup kibble (one with grains) and raw food. Dr. Becker talks about this in one of her videos. Search Dr. Becker*s videos on youtube.com for a lot of great information regarding the raw diet. There are 3 parts to the series. Well worth the time to watch the videos.

*PUP NOT EATING WHEN YOU FIRST BRING THEM HOME

They are not used to their new environment and this is a natural behavior. Take the pup to a quiet place at meal times and sit and hand feed the pup. This will help the pup to eat when they are placed in a calm atmosphere, help you to bond with the pup and help the pup establish trust with you. As they become settled, they will naturally follow your routine.

*PROTECT THE PUP FROM DISEASE

Keep the pup in your yard and place newspapers down where they will walk on the ground. Keep the pup away from dog areas unless they have had their 2nd round of shots, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots is best so they will have some immunity to the infectious diseases, i.e. Parvo. This is very important!

*HOUSE TRAINING YOUR PUP

http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/house-training-your-puppy

*SOCIALIZE, SOCIALIZE AND SOCIALIZE SOME MORE

Socialize after they*ve had at least 2 round of shots preferably 3 rounds of shots to be safe. Prior to the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] or 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots, keep the pup in your own yard. If that is not possible, bring newspapers with you for the pup to walk on. Avoid dog parks and areas with a heavy traffic of animals.

Socialization can be the human park while the pup is on leash, riding in the car, sitting at the park or shopping center/mall, etc.

Tell strangers and strangers with pups “no touch, no talk, no look” at your pup as they approach. Bring your pup to sit while they approach. Have your pup approach the strangers and allow the pup to sniff them. Have a calm, controlled meeting. This shows your pup the correct way to greet strangers and other pups.

*TRAINING YOUR PUP

Start basic commands and reward with motivational treats (fav food or fav toy). Train for about 5 minutes per day and slowly increase the training time. Teach one command at a time. Once they master one command, move onto another command.


Number one command is sit. Teach the pup to sit, by placing a treat in front of his head and move it to the back causing him to sit to get the treat. When the pup sits, tell them good sit and give them the treat.

Second command should be "focus/look" This will help you tremendously when the pup is over 100 lbs. Put the pup into sit. With a treat in your hand (let the pup smell it), put the treat up to your eyes and tell the pup to look or focus. They may only do this for about 1-2 seconds. As soon as they look at your eyes, reward them. Generally, mastiffs do not like to look anyone in the eyes for long because that means a challenge to them.

Other commands are "down/off", "leave it," "wait" (short pause), "stay" (pausing until you release), drop it and "quiet/calm".

When you are training and when the pup does not do as you ask, then tell him no in a calm, stern voice and redirect back to the command. The only time a stern and loud NO should be used is when they are doing something that can cause harm to themselves or others.


Praise is the most powerful tool you have and the dog WANTS to please you. Show them clearly what you want, notice and praise when they comply, and learning goes much faster and pleasant for you both.

Mastiffs can be extremely stubborn and if you get frustrated with them, they will shut down and stop listening to you. Mastiffs do not do well with yelling or hitting. Hitting can result in some unwanted mastiff behavior meaning fear aggression, which equals biting.

*LEASH TRAINING

Have the wear the leash around the house to get used to it. Once they are used to the leash around their neck, then you can start the leash training. Have lots of motivational rewards on hand while doing the training. Consistency and patience is key.

If the dog pulls, do not walk until they stop and turn to look at you, then thank them with a motivational reward and start walking again. Tell him it's ok to walk by you start walking. When you have to stop, tell him stop or wait and tell him sit. Titan knows that when we are walking and I say, "wait," he has to stop and sit and wait for me to begin walking again. Requires a lot of consistent training and patience. Do this inside the house and then move to outside.

If they nip at you because they want to play, do the same. Stop, sit and wait. Reward the dog with motivational reward when they do the commands.


*PUPPY BITING/NIPPING/AROUND CHILDREN

Puppies will chew/bite anything they can find unless you re-direct the chewing/biting. Provide frozen washcloths or small towels, nylabones, ropes, deer antlers, Kongs with frozen yogurt so they can chew to their heart*s desire. Some people use boxes, be aware that the pup will continue to chew all boxes.

If you puppy is biting/nipping, then try the following. This behavior can sometimes take a lot of patience and consistency in training.

They bite and growl because that is how they played with their siblings.
When they bite, tell them “OW” in a high-pitched voice and “NO” in a stern, calm voice. NEVER HIT OR YELL AT A MASTIFF. Hitting can lead to fear aggression and yelling causes the pup to shut down on you and ignore you.

When the pup stops biting, tell them to sit and re-direct to one of the chew toys.

**Do not allow children and pup on the floor together. Pup will see them as playmates and nip at them. Picture the pup playing with their siblings.

Keep the pup on leash while the children are on the floor so you can have control of the pup. Pup and children should not be allowed to play alone.

Have the children hand fed the pup and help with training, i.e. teach the pup to sit, stay and come. This helps the pup to see them as non-playmates but as people in authority. These activities are great bonding exercises.

*EXERCISE

Puppies can exercise with natural movements and free play like running, stretching, playing on soft surfaces (grass and dirt). This type of exercise is actually healthy and good for their developing bodies but they do need to be able to pace themselves.

Structured exercise/play on hard surfaces and where they don't have they ability to pace themselves is where you need to be very careful. This type of exercise could harm the pup*s joints and bones. Puppies should not do any excessive exercise, i.e. walking, jumping, running and navigate stairs for the first 12 months to avoid injury.

Stairs should be maneuvered while on leash (even in the house) especially going down the stairs. Stairs should have carpet or rubber matting to give the pup traction. Mastiffs should be assisted up and down stairs until they are about age 12 months to prevent injury.

Most mastiffs can be very lazy but they still need to exercise. Generally, the amount of time to exercise is 5 minutes per each month of age.

*YOUR PUP AND HEAT (NOT THE FEMALE HEAT)

Remember, mastiffs do not tolerate heat. In the heat, reduce walk/exercise times. Have clean water available at all times. I freeze towels to either place on Titan or put on the floor for him to lie on in the summer to cool him off. Buy a kiddies* pool for the pup to play in to keep cool.

*DE-SEXING YOUR PUP

Mastiffs should not be neutered/spayed until 18 months to 2 years. NO MATTER what the vet says. Early neutering can cause growth problems and health issues. **Remember, you must be a very responsible dog owner to not neuter your pet to prevent unwanted pregnancies.**


Health Issues Linked to Spaying and Neutering Dogs


Enjoy your baby! Have lots of patience! The pup will reward you with love and loyalty!
 

afidz

Active Member
This isn't our first dog, just our first mastiff. My boyfriend very successfully trained Rufus, our first dog. I am not really concerned about him being poorly trained or disobedient.
I also know that the breeder didn't skimp on the brand of food. We are actually going to have to start paying more money than we currently do for dog food so the puppy can stay on the food he is eating now
So there are some new developments. The mom of the litter we were expecting from reabsorbed all of the puppies. It was confirmed today by the breeder's vet.
The breeder does have a litter on the ground right now, she had set aside a male for herself to introduce into her program, but since she lost an entire litter, she has offered him to us. We will be bringing him home on the 17th of July.
With that being said, we have a few other concerns. A few weeks after the current litter was born the mom came down with a serious bacterial infection and had to be admitted into a pet hospital. The vet confirmed that none of the puppies were infected. But because the mom was at the hospital, they were bottle fed most of their lives (they just started eating dog food). The breeder said their temperment is going to be a lot different because they were handled by humans at such a young age. My concern is the fact that they only had moms milk for a few weeks.
 

Slinger-girl

Well-Known Member
Well I'm not sure how different, all puppies should be handled at a young age and be very socialized regardless, that being said, as long as they received the colostrum from the mother in the first 48 hours, they should be just fine. Bottle feeding can lead to pneumonia from aspiration, so I would ask if that has occurred and if they have been on any antibiotics, just to put in your file, it is not a strike against because it is common, but I would still ask for the info. I have had to hand raise a couple litters and while I don't bottle feed (tube feed here) all have turned out just fine. Having a good formula is also important.

if the pups were a few weeks old when the infection occured, they probably were not bottle fed for very long, I typically start my pups on gruel at just a little over 3 weeks of age to take some pressure of the mom.
 

afidz

Active Member
I was Able to speak with the breeder a lot more in depth today about the puppies. She said they were feed mothers milk until just after 2 weeks. After the mom could no longer feed them she gave them goats colostrum and a few other supplements provided by vet to ensure that they would not miss any nutrients. They are now eating solid food. 3 weeks from tomorrow we get to bring him home! I can't wait!