Anyone interested in a teenage b*#ch EM??? FREE for the taking

[cblond1121]

Are these behaviors attributed to the "teenage years"? Cheeno (intact male CC) just turned 16 months and within the last three weeks he has taken a liking to ripping all of the cushions off the couch and pulling the couch from the wall. This caused a hole in the corner of the couch (where I assume he was pulling from). Ai Yi Yi.... I really don't want to go back to crating him while I am at work for 8 hours a day.

 

[cinnamon roll]

Ggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....f*#k b*#*h!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so how is your girl doing? Has she learned manners around the trash can?

 

[cblond1121]

Also wondering what someone is supposed to do if these behaviors are only happening when the dog isn't supervised. A lot of these posts mentioned corrections, but if I don't catch him in the act, it isn't effective.

 

[cinnamon roll]

She will arrive at the airport at 9:45 tomorrow, send the B back when she is done dumpster diving! Oh yeah and done with heat.

I missed this thread & I'm very sad I did. I needed some laughs today & confirmation that all the issues I've been having with Duch being a bitch has been due to her bratty teenage phase. She has gotten much, much better around other dogs & people so I can't say HOW long it lasted but I can say it will end...stay strong! Mastiffs are sensitive creatures.....ok I'm laughing my ass off after saying that but I am semi-serious. My first EM, you could bust her in the middle of doing something she wasn't supposed to do & she would wag her tail while you used your stern voice to tell her no. She didn't care. Duch is kind of the same. She acts like Miss Badass while on the leash but take her off of it & the game changes completely!

Wanted to let you know that there is a trash can with a motorized lid but honestly I think Mystic would probably figure it out lol

 

[cinnamon roll]

In my experience if I don't catch them in the act( wether if be pottying in the house, Garbage, counter surfing) I do not correct them as it is too late. But that is IMO

Also wondering what someone is supposed to do if these behaviors are only happening when the dog isn't supervised. A lot of these posts mentioned corrections, but if I don't catch him in the act, it isn't effective.

 

[joshuagough]

That's not a question anyone can answer, some can be and others maybe learned behavior.. or a progression of behavior.

The dog isn't going to stop something he's doing if he's not taught it's not acceptable.

Why wouldn't you crate him?

Are these behaviors attributed to the "teenage years"? Cheeno (intact male CC) just turned 16 months and within the last three weeks he has taken a liking to ripping all of the cushions off the couch and pulling the couch from the wall. This caused a hole in the corner of the couch (where I assume he was pulling from). Ai Yi Yi.... I really don't want to go back to crating him while I am at work for 8 hours a day.

 

[cblond1121]

That's not a question anyone can answer, some can be and others maybe learned behavior.. or a progression of behavior.

The dog isn't going to stop something he's doing if he's not taught it's not acceptable.

Why wouldn't you crate him?

I am not opposed to going back to crating him, I just feel like that is taking a step backwards. I don't know how to proceed.

 

[joshuagough]

You can use the object as training on your own time and have the dog in a controlled environment when you can't supervise them.

I crate all our pups till 12 months of age, I've played with the timing with a few dogs and have about perfected it.

I work with them thru every aspect of training and will build free time in our house in short time sessions around 11 months, then when 12 months rolls around we allow free roam.

Recently finished this on our female and she has free roam of the house without issue.

Also wondering what someone is supposed to do if these behaviors are only happening when the dog isn't supervised. A lot of these posts mentioned corrections, but if I don't catch him in the act, it isn't effective.

 

[joshuagough]

Not at all, it's what I always resort to when a dog has a behavior issue.. its a bit of a re-grounding or groundwork process.. they are in a crate or on a leash. If the dog has been solid prior to this.. about a month of the structured work in o.b. and crating usually re-instills what my expectation of the dog is.

It's worked wonders on just about everything I've faced. Dogs are den animals.. building a bond with a crate as a safe haven for the dog is a great thing, one of the best tools you have.

I am not opposed to going back to crating him, I just feel like that is taking a step backwards. I don't know how to proceed.

 

[cblond1121]

You can use the object as training on your own time and have the dog in a controlled environment when you can't supervise them.

I crate all our pups till 12 months of age, I've played with the timing with a few dogs and have about perfected it.

I work with them thru every aspect of training and will build free time in our house in short time sessions around 11 months, then when 12 months rolls around we allow free roam.

Recently finished this on our female and she has free roam of the house without issue.

I wish there was a step-by-step guide on how to allow your dog more and more access in the house.

He was fine with being confined to a "back room" where his crate and food was located. Then in November, we came home to a hole chewed/scratched in the drywall. Patched that up and again in late January he chewed/scratched a hole in a different wall of the "back room". We didn't patch that up right away so we gave him roam of the house with that "back room" blocked off (knowing if we left him back there without the hole being fixed he would continue at it). Then about two weeks ago he started with the couch. I thought it was because he wasn't being exercised as much (due to sub-zero temps). He went for a good walk yesterday and a 40 minute walk with me this morning. I don't get it.

I wish dogs could talk.

 

[cinnamon roll]

Mystic loves her crate.

When I am not home she knows she has to go in her crate. And she goes happily.

Her crate is her den(safe spot)

 

[joshuagough]

Start here: Leerburg Dog Training | The Groundwork to Establishing Pack Structure with Adult Dogs , some of this doesn't apply to you but the actual structure part is of the most benefit to you.

Your view on your dog being in the crate is largely different than his view of it, that's just a emotional thing you have to work thru. If you don't want your house or your things destroyed.. crate him.. when he is out work on solid o.b. and then after 3 months or so of this allow him to be out in the house free while you run to the store. Even if he does good with no issues, go back to crating him for a few weeks, then increase his time out in the house while you do something.

Then you contiue the process.

There's no stead fast "1+1 = week and he'll be ok" rule.. your effort level greatly effects how quickly he will progress and given he has gotten away with tearing up things it will take effort and a bit of time but it's something you can work thru and he'll be solid as can be once your finished.

I wish there was a step-by-step guide on how to allow your dog more and more access in the house.

He was fine with being confined to a "back room" where his crate and food was located. Then in November, we came home to a hole chewed/scratched in the drywall. Patched that up and again in late January he chewed/scratched a hole in a different wall of the "back room". We didn't patch that up right away so we gave him roam of the house with that "back room" blocked off (knowing if we left him back there without the hole being fixed he would continue at it). Then about two weeks ago he started with the couch. I thought it was because he wasn't being exercised as much (due to sub-zero temps). He went for a good walk yesterday and a 40 minute walk with me this morning. I don't get it.

I wish dogs could talk.

 

[cblond1121]

Thank you for your help and patience.

He does fine for short periods of time - 2 or 3 hours. It seems like when we go to work for 8 hours is when he does his destruction.

Back to the crate it is. I know I try to relate human emotions to my dog - I need to stop doing that. I just hate the thought of him having nothing to do but lie down in a cage all day.

 

[joshuagough]

No worries, dogs can get bored & he may hear something that causes him to try and get out of the room also (there's many variables here).

Secondly your just like every other dog lover, no shame in that.. once you buy a few couches you start to think differently

As for him lying in a cage all day. I can post some 8 hour videos of all three of mine (who are free in the house) sleeping in the same spot all day, if it makes you feel better lol.. its no different. You're not keeping them from watching their soap operas or getting on facebook :razzberry:I assure you!

Thank you for your help and patience.

He does fine for short periods of time - 2 or 3 hours. It seems like when we go to work for 8 hours is when he does his destruction.

Back to the crate it is. I know I try to relate human emotions to my dog - I need to stop doing that. I just hate the thought of him having nothing to do but lie down in a cage all day.

 

[cblond1121]

Today's damage :-( Didn't see the mattress until now.

He doesn't so anything like this when he is alone for a few hours. It's the whole day that does it to him. And he definitely doesn't do it when we're home.

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[joshuagough]

Uh, oh.. I guess you have a excuse to either go shopping or find a good furniture repair man

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Today's damage :-( Didn't see the mattress until now.

He doesn't so anything like this when he is alone for a few hours. It's the whole day that does it to him. And he definitely doesn't do it when we're home.

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[Jadotha]

We got a can with a locking, foot-operated lid, too! It is quite robust, and the dogs could knock it over and it stayed un-dented and locked. In general, Boris's Demon Puppy behaviour peeked at about 13 mths, and began showing big improvement at around 15 mths.

I am wondering if you remain angry after you chastise her, and continue to speak crossly to her? What seems to work with Boris is after expressing displeasure with what he had done -- or is in the middle of doing -- we ask him to do something for which we can praise/reward him, restoring our harmony.

 

[cinnamon roll]

Okay this morning she has taken it to a WHOLE new level.

Andy was bacon the for the boys this today and he stepped out of the kitchen into the dining room and BAM she stands up on the GD STOVE AND TOOK ALL THE BACON!!!!!!!!! WTF??????????????????????????????

She has never taken food off a counter or stove, she has taken it off the coffee table but never this.

 

[joshuagough]

LOL you just got pawned by a 4'legger :razzberry:

I like bacon also, can't blame her.

Okay this morning she has taken it to a WHOLE new level.

Andy was bacon the for the boys this today and he stepped out of the kitchen into the dining room and BAM she stands up on the GD STOVE AND TOOK ALL THE BACON!!!!!!!!! WTF??????????????????????????????

She has never taken food off a counter or stove, she has taken it off the coffee table but never this.

 

[Al and Julie]

CR I will take the dog if you just take the 17 years old girl that knows everything and everything is whatever. Guess we all have our demons.