Countrygirl
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ok let me see if I get this strait...lol, showing a breed is more important than the bloodline they come from that's considered a working breed? and the higher the title the better off you are as a breeder right? lol
ok let me see if I get this strait...lol, showing a breed is more important than the bloodline they come from that's considered a working breed? and the higher the title the better off you are as a breeder right? lol
No one said that. As for the bloodline, well that is subjective. Because one person likes one type of CC from a particular blood line, doesn't mean another will. There has been lots of "mixing" that can be seen in some bloodines more then in others. In some the boxer/BM influence is more apparent then the Corso As for showing, it is supposed to be comparing the individual dog against the written standard, which at this point of time for the CC is based on a working breed. Form to function, meaning that the Corso standard is written to promote the dog best suited structurally to achieve it's purpose as a working breed. It should not be the be all end all. Just because a breeder has a GCH on one of their dogs does not make them a great breeder, or even a good one. In my opinion I want to see various titles or dogs working towards them, including but not limited to IPO, Ringsport, Agility, OB, weight pull, luring, HIT as well as the very minimum CGC/CGN titles, Therapy titles, ATTS... The Corso was NOT a one trick pony, it was a utilitarian breed. These dogs should be able to go as far as you are willing to take them. A breeder with multiple dogs doing multiple tasks, who still maintains a consistent type, is what I personally look for in a successful breeder.ok let me see if I get this strait...lol, showing a breed is more important than the bloodline they come from that's considered a working breed? and the higher the title the better off you are as a breeder right? lol
Why wouldn't you health test? I mean really, why not? If it is money then that there shows me that the breeder is not what I would want to work with. Again health testing is a tool. All it is is knowing what you have to work with. Why would a breeder not want to know that? I would not dismiss a dog based on health tests alone, but the knowledge of what it's hip scores (for example) are would definitely be plus in deciding a pairing. All of these tests we are given should be nothing more then tools to use, if applied properly great things can be accomplished.
But.... I thought there was some consensus that the show judges were pushing the breeds into crazy places - i.e. noses to short, too tall, too short, overbuilt, too skinny, un-athletic, un-healthy, etc, etc.
I would think a breeder of working dogs who actually works his dogs and has, say, herding titles, would be someone looking to better the breed more so than someone who just goes to a beauty contest.
Just curious...is there any money in showing? Do the winners actually make a profit after all the traveling and dog expenses are calculated? Or is the purpose of showing to bring more esteem to your dog so you can then breed it and THEN make a profit? Or is showing just a wonderful expensive hobby? Like horseback riding.
I agree 100%, but because a dog can move and jump doesn't mean it is not dysplastic . I would not rule out a dog that doesn't have great hips on that alone, but KNOWING what the dogs hips are is, for me at least, is one piece of the puzzle. I know a dog that is dysplastic, but have seen this dog move effortlessly and jump like there is no tomorrow, when he gaits he floats. It is a dog I have seen in person, played flirt pole with, so know his movement first hand. His off spring have been quite successful. Luckily he can't read an x-ray, so is unaware of his condition I have also seen dogs with great hips on the X-Ray who have horrible movement and structure. I just think if we have access to these tools why not utilise them.I understand what your saying but there are breeders that have never and wont ever test ...and there dogs come out with less problems than the ones that do test....because the testing does not mean your dog wont be displastic nor does it mean the offspring wont be.....im going to do it with Kronos for the hell of it...but there are a zillion dogs around the world who work there entire lives with no problems and they haven't been tested...I think health testing is more crucial in dogs that dont get worked...sometimes the work can test the dog for you..just my 2 cents
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Depends on the breeder but yes some do make BANK. Like race horses.
Like any venue sport or show its EXPENSIVE and the profits made are no where near the amount spent. But if you love your hobby cost, shouldn't matter.
That's what I thought! I rode horses for years and did some shows, never made a dime off it, sure did spend a lot! I wouldn't trade those years for anything though Thanks for responding
I just enjoy throwing money away My breeder is VERY selective about who can use his dogs (as am I and we have a mutual agreement in regards to this), neither he nor I will recoup what we have put into Black Jack achieving his AKC and CKC Ch. But making money was never the intent.Just curious...is there any money in showing? Do the winners actually make a profit after all the traveling and dog expenses are calculated? Or is the purpose of showing to bring more esteem to your dog so you can then breed it and THEN make a profit? Or is showing just a wonderful expensive hobby? Like horseback riding.
I'm jealous, haha, I would love to ride and do gaming events but horses terrify me, lol.
I just enjoy throwing money away My breeder is VERY selective about who can use his dogs (as am I and we have a mutual agreement in regards to this), neither he nor I will recoup what we have put into Black Jack achieving his AKC and CKC Ch. But making money was never the intent.
Oh believe me, I excel at that hobby lmao!Well that's a hobby in itself! lol
Just curious...is there any money in showing? Do the winners actually make a profit after all the traveling and dog expenses are calculated? Or is the purpose of showing to bring more esteem to your dog so you can then breed it and THEN make a profit? Or is showing just a wonderful expensive hobby? Like horseback riding.