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Dog-Reactive DDB Puppy (5.5 months)

gnomad

Member
My heart is sinking over how Puca is continuing to react toward dogs. I'm struggling to understand how he could have just come to me this way as a 3 month old puppy. From the first time I introduced him (At 3.5 months) to a dog in public he showed signs of rejection. Fear, irritation, etc. Lowered tail, bowed head, occasional showing of the teeth if dogs got too close to him, obviously only tolerating being sniffed. I have tried different possible environments in which to expose him. I have no idea why he is like this or how to correct/redirect his behavior. A big indication that it was getting worse was on a trip to Tractor Supply. We were in the store, not too many people around, but there was a couple with a dog in there. Adult pit mix or something, friendly enough. It walked past us barely paying attention to us and once Puca saw him he immediately began barking. Most recently I decided to take him to a festival. I knew there would be people and other dogs but Puca loves people and is well mannered. Of course my heart sank when we were standing in a tent with a vendor talking and another dog walked past (probably 15-20ft away), as soon as Puca saw him he tried to take off after him, of course barking like a lunatic. I couldn't believe it! I thought we had recovered and we continued on. Shortly after, we passed a severely overweight female Dachshund. Puca walked in her direction, they were probably maybe two feet away from each other before this little dog ran up and snapped in Puca's face. Of course I immediately pulled him away but he was already reacting and sounded like he was going to kill her. I have no idea if Puca's body language was threatening to her or if she was just a nasty dog. From my angle, behind Puca, he was just sniffing. I was saddened to see that there were some ill-behaved dogs there. Later on from inside another tent, I saw a different Dachshund bark and lunge at a dog. Puca and I had been within sight of THIS Dachshund earlier and neither paid each other any mind. I can't stand when people take aggressive dogs out into public and I have a feeling I am turning into one of those people that I can't stand. Puca's behavior is so unpredictable. I've contacted his breeder and she hasn't had this problem with her male or the puppy they decided to keep. She says that her female is ok around other dogs but becomes reactive once they get in her face. None of the other puppies from the litter have reported any behavioral issues such as this. I am at a loss. Any advice would be much appreciated. I am looking into training classes now. I just do not know what to do.
 

mcarrel

Well-Known Member
Idk maybe I am different than others but, while I socialize my pups in social settings I never place them in a position where dogs are just allowed to walk up to them as young puppies. When Kronos was 3 months+ I started taking him to places like Petsmart, "human" parks etc to "see" dogs and people but I kept him at a distance from strange dogs and allowing people just to run up to him (no matter how cute he was :D ) Later as he got older and wanted to approach friendly dogs who also wanted to be approached I let him. Sometimes what doesn't seem like a bad experience to us is actually unpleasant or frightening to a puppy and the get reactionary later in similar situations. As an adult Kronos is indifferent to most strange dogs unless they challenge him, he likes female dogs but he is not trustworthy around male dogs near his size or dominant males. Except for the small yippy dogs he just ignores them. My first DDB was socialized with everyone and everything as an adult he didn't like any strange dogs small medium or large.
 

mcarrel

Well-Known Member
Maybe you can try to socialize him with well behaved friendly dogs of your friends. rather than just random dogs in public.
 

Wilsy

Well-Known Member
I can't help with why Puca behaves that way towards other dogs but from the signs you are describing it sounds like he is scared. We have a 20 month male DDB called Wilson. He as a puppy just wanted to play with every dog he saw but after having to put up with many months of other owners allowing their 'friendly' small dogs to run straight up to him barking and then nip at his feet and neck (while I yell at their owner!), Wilson has turned more wary of dogs approaching in close proximity. He seems to now require about 6 feet of personal space around him lol! To help with this we use a 'sit' as a default position. So when we are walking and a dog on its leash is approaching us we move Wilson off to the side a bit and tell him to sit and he gets a treat. He stays sitting, I keep praising, he remains calm and I hand out treats until the dog has gone past then we carry on our walk. We have also recently introduced the 'touch' command. My plan is to in time keep Wilson moving past an approaching dog by getting him to touch my hand as we walk past, so diverting his attention away from the other dog and me rewarding him with a treat. I know you say you can't stand it when people take their aggressive dogs out in public but the only way to train a dog is out in public. You can train your dog as much as you want in your living room or garden but the only way to properly train a dog is out in the real world. Yes bad stuff happens, like I say I end up yelling at small dog owners to not let their 'friendly' dog launch an attack on my dog, but I tend to think I am educating them that just because you have a small dog it does not make aggression ok. (Rant over now :) ).
 

irina

Well-Known Member
I second not allowing contact and diverting attention onto you. He is a puppy now, does not yet outweigh you and is cute, so people might cut him some slack, but it will not be like this forever. If involved in a fight, he will be to blame even if the other dog started it. I made the mistake of allowing my puppy to meet other dogs and people, then I had to retrain to regain control. Next time I will know better. Dogs do not need to meet in public. Keep your dog in a sit off to the side focused on you. Tell the other owners to keep their dogs away because yours is not allowed to socialize. If they say their dog is friendly, reply that yours is not. And do not take him anywhere with other dogs in close proximity, until he learns to ignore them and remain focused on you.
 
Without actually seeing his posture and body language by the way you have described I couldn't say whether he was excited, scared, or aggressive. At that age it most likely that he is scared. Meaning keeping social interactions to a controlled minimum. It would really help if you could get someone to record you during some instances for example so that we can see the way he reacts. There is so many indications of the way a dog is feeling in a given situation dependant on body language. There are a lot of factors that go into things like this and we are only getting about 25% of the required info to give a really good advice to help in this situation. At his age the best thing you could do is work on training obedience well, structured walks, and allowing him space to be comfortable enough in any given situation. Build his confidence in himself and his trust in you as a handler and everything else will fall in place. The WORST way for two dogs to meet is while they are both attached to a leash. IMO
 

gnomad

Member
Okay, so my first step is I'm going to buy a collar that says "No Dogs." I'm hoping this will keep people with dogs away from us. I'd rather they just assume my dog is aggressive and stay away, which they will. We are no longer going to dog parks. It's just too risky. Some dogs he has no problems with and then others he is entirely too reactive toward. I'm currently trying to find a decent training program but I live in a pretty rural area and there isn't much around. :/
 

Hector

Well-Known Member
Training classes will help you understand how to get your dog to focus on you. Try to find a positive, reward based class. You want to learn how to motivate and communicate with your dog without just jumping into compulsion type training. People are good about ignoring warnings and signs. With some people, you have to almost be rude for them to back off so just be prepared for that. If you go to the dog park, stay outside and use the other dogs as distraction training. For a young dog with reactivity issues, I would aim for your dog to look at other dogs without reacting and then do some recall on the leash.
 

DennasMom

Well-Known Member
It does seem - at first glance - to be a fear reaction. I would talk to lots of trainers in your area and see if you can find a puppy play group for him to attend. If he can interact with puppies his own age, that might help him understand that not all dogs are a threat. // Next - out in public - I agree, get him to focus on YOU, and let YOU address the "threat" of the other dog. Tell him in ways that he can understand (that's the hard part), that you are in control, and he has nothing to worry about. Put him in a sit and keep the other dog at a "safe" distance. If the other dog comes toward you, tell you pup "let's go" and move away. Teaching him to just 'walk away' is a good lesson, too. //Going to obedience classes and other structured events with dogs you know will be under control will give you more opportunities to challenge him and let him know what you expect. Be consistent, patience and generous with treats and/or praise when he does react the way you want, and he should "get it" eventually. Keep us posted!!