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teodora

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Hello from Welly, NZ - we are the very new pack of a Cane Corso puppy, 7 weeks old (Jack). He's a sweetie, we love him lots and need all the advice we can get to raise him properly and make him a good citizen :)
 

musicdeb

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Welcome aboard and congrats on your new family member~ Pics are necessary of Jack! :)

The following tips/suggestions are based on my experience as a dog mommy, forum member*s posts and volunteering at an animal shelter for a year.

*CRATE THE PUP

You want to crate train the pup. Make sure you have a blanket, stuffed animal (about their size) and white noise (ticking clock or ipod with soft music) so the pup can sleep. The pup is used to cuddling with siblings.

Make the crate the pup*s happy place to go to when he wants to sleep, decompress or just hang out.

*SECURE THE PUP NEAR THE FAMILY

You want to keep the pup in a room with a family member. Mastiffs need to be near their family members.

*FOOD

Find out what kind of food the shelter/rescue/breeder was feeding the pup and continue to feed it to the pup until you transition to a newer food because most shelters/rescues/breeders use the cheapest food, meaning it is not very good for the pup.

Slow transition to the new food is as follows to prevent diarrhea. If at any time during the transition, the pup has diarrhea return to previous amounts of food per feeding. If you are switching flavors made by the same manufacturer, you should not have to do a slow transition.

Amount per feeding:

Day 1-4 ¾ cup of old food and ¼ cup of new food.

Day 5-9 ½ cup of old food and ½ cup of new food.

Day 10-14 ¾ cup of new food and ¼ cup of old food

Day 15 Start 100% of new food

Generally, mastiffs are allergic to grain and chicken found in kibble. You can check www.dogfoodadvisor.com for dog food ratings and customer feedback. Mastiff puppies should eat Large Breed adult food because puppy food has too much calcium which causes fast growth. Slow and steady growth for a healthy mastiff. Protein in the food is not an issue unless the pup has kidney issues.

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1659&aid=652

Dog Food FAQs: Protein

Check out Acana Regionals, Wellness Core, Earthborn Holistics, Fromm*s, Innova Natures Table or Taste of the Wild grain free. Chewy.com is a great place to order dog food and they offer free shipping.

You may want to check out the raw diet for your pup. Raw diet can be fed to young pups. Check out the sub forum on raw diet that has a wealth of information. It is not recommended to feed the pup kibble (one with grains) and raw food. Do your research re: raw diet and form your own opinion.

*PUP NOT EATING WHEN YOU FIRST BRING THEM HOME

They are not used to their new environment and this is a natural behavior. Take the pup to a quiet place at meal times and sit and hand feed the pup. This will help the pup to eat when they are placed in a calm atmosphere, help you to bond with the pup and help the pup establish trust with you. As they become settled, they will naturally follow your routine.

*PROTECT THE PUP FROM DISEASE

Keep the pup in your yard and place newspapers down where they will walk on the ground. Keep the pup away from dog areas unless they have had their 2nd round of shots, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots is best so they will have some immunity to the infectious diseases, i.e. Parvo. This is very important!

*HOUSE TRAINING YOUR PUP

http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/house-training-your-puppy

*SOCIALIZE, SOCIALIZE AND SOCIALIZE SOME MORE

Socialize after they*ve had at least 2 round of shots preferably 3 rounds of shots to be safe. Prior to the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] or 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots, keep the pup in your own yard. If that is not possible, bring newspapers with you for the pup to walk on. Avoid dog parks and areas with a heavy traffic of animals.

Socialization can be the human park while the pup is on leash, riding in the car, sitting at the park or shopping center/mall, etc.

Tell strangers and strangers with pups “no touch, no talk, no look” at your pup as they approach. Bring your pup to sit while they approach. Have your pup approach the strangers and allow the pup to sniff them. Have a calm, controlled meeting. This shows your pup the correct way to greet strangers and other pups.

*TRAINING YOUR PUP

Start basic commands and reward with motivational treats (fav food or fav toy). Train for about 5 minutes per day and slowly increase the training time. Teach one command at a time. Once they master one command, move onto another command.


Number one command is sit. Teach the pup to sit, by placing a treat in front of his head and move it to the back causing him to sit to get the treat. When the pup sits, tell them good sit and give them the treat.

Second command should be "focus/look" This will help you tremendously when the pup is over 100 lbs. Put the pup into sit. With a treat in your hand (let the pup smell it), put the treat up to your eyes and tell the pup to look or focus. They may only do this for about 1-2 seconds. As soon as they look at your eyes, reward them. Generally, mastiffs do not like to look anyone in the eyes for long because that means a challenge to them.

Other commands are "down/off", "leave it," "wait" (short pause), "stay" (pausing until you release), drop it and "quiet/calm".

When you are training and when the pup does not do as you ask, then tell him “no” in a calm, stern voice and redirect back to the command. The only time a stern and loud NO should be used is when they are doing something that can cause harm to themselves or others.


Praise is the most powerful tool you have and the dog WANTS to please you. Show them clearly what you want, notice and praise when they comply, and learning goes much faster and pleasant for you both.

Mastiffs can be extremely stubborn and if you get frustrated with them, they will shut down and stop listening to you. Mastiffs do not do well with yelling or hitting. Hitting can result in some unwanted mastiff behavior meaning fear aggression, which equals biting.

*LEASH TRAINING

Have the wear the leash around the house to get used to it. Once they are used to the leash around their neck, then you can start the leash training. Have lots of motivational rewards on hand while doing the training. Consistency and patience is key.

If the dog pulls, do not walk until they stop and turn to look at you, then thank them with a motivational reward and start walking again. Tell him it's ok to walk by you start walking. When you have to stop, tell him stop or wait and tell him sit. Titan knows that when we are walking and I say, "wait," he has to stop and sit and wait for me to begin walking again. Requires a lot of consistent training and patience. Do this inside the house and then move to outside.

If they nip at you because they want to play, do the same. Stop, sit and wait. Reward the dog with motivational reward when they do the commands.


*PUPPY BITING/NIPPING/AROUND CHILDREN

Puppies will chew/bite anything they can find unless you re-direct the chewing/biting. Provide frozen washcloths or small towels (make sure the cloths are big enough the pup cannot swallow them), ice cubes with treats frozen in the middle, nylabones, ropes, deer antlers, Kongs with frozen yogurt so they can chew to their heart*s desire. Some people use boxes, be aware that the pup will continue to chew all boxes.

If you puppy is biting/nipping, then try the following. This behavior can sometimes take a lot of patience and consistency in training.

They bite and growl because that is how they played with their siblings.
When they bite, tell them “OW” in a high-pitched voice and “NO” in a stern, calm voice. NEVER HIT OR YELL AT A MASTIFF. Hitting can lead to fear aggression and yelling causes the pup to shut down on you and ignore you.

When the pup stops biting, tell them to sit and re-direct to one of the chew toys.

**Do not allow children and pup on the floor together. Pup will see them as playmates and nip at them. Picture the pup playing with their siblings.

Keep the pup on leash while the children are on the floor so you can have control of the pup. Pup and children should not be allowed to play alone.

Have the children hand fed the pup and help with training, i.e. teach the pup to sit, stay and come. This helps the pup to see them as non-playmates but as people in authority. These activities are great bonding exercises.

*EXERCISE

Puppies can exercise with natural movements and free play like running, stretching, playing on soft surfaces (grass and dirt). This type of exercise is actually healthy and good for their developing bodies but they do need to be able to pace themselves.

Structured exercise/play on hard surfaces and where they don't have they ability to pace themselves is where you need to be very careful. This type of exercise could harm the pup*s joints and bones. Puppies should not do any excessive exercise, i.e. walking, jumping, running and navigate stairs for the first 12 months to avoid injury.

Stairs should be maneuvered while on leash (even in the house) especially going down the stairs. Stairs should have carpet or rubber matting to give the pup traction. Mastiffs should be assisted up and down stairs until they are about age 12 months to prevent injury.

Most mastiffs can be very lazy but they still need to exercise. Generally, the amount of time to exercise is 5 minutes per each month of age.

*YOUR PUP AND HEAT (NOT THE FEMALE HEAT)

Remember, mastiffs do not tolerate heat. In the heat, reduce walk/exercise times. Have clean water available at all times. I freeze towels to either place on Titan or put on the floor for him to lie on in the summer to cool him off. Buy a kiddies* pool for the pup to play in to keep cool.

*DE-SEXING YOUR PUP

Mastiffs should not be neutered/spayed until 18 months to 2 years. NO MATTER what the vet says. Early neutering can cause growth problems and health issues. **Remember, you must be a very responsible dog owner to not neuter your pet to prevent unwanted pregnancies.**


Health Issues Linked to Spaying and Neutering Dogs


Enjoy your baby! Have lots of patience! The pup will reward you with love and loyalty!
 

Mag-Pie

Well-Known Member
Hello and welcome to the forum! This is the place for all your questions and concerns. You already got great advice from musicdeb, following it will ensure you set a good foundation for the future. For answers to any specific questions you might have, search the forum and you will see a ton of information, you just have to weed through it. Or you can always start a new thread. Good luck and best wishes to you and your new pup. Please post pics, we love pics!!!
 

teodora

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wow, many many thanks - very useful info! :)

This is Jack this morning:

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He's a smart boy: no mess in the house, he sleeps in his crate in our bedroom from day 1 and he's happy there at night. He comes when we call him and he knows SIT and DROP. And he knows NO but he prefers to ignore it most of the time. "NO" can cause some tantrum as well. He gets angry, then sorry, then he comes to cuddle and have a nap on my lap...

Left to his own devices he would chew us out of house: curtains, furniture, wooden floors, walls, and pretty much whatever else is in front of his nose. And he would chew kids. Especially my 8 y.o. The good part is that he is a gentle boy and he has a soft mouth, the bad part is that he has sharp teeth anyway. And he stalks. Silently. He stalks, jumps on kid's back and bite. He's playing, BUT in a couple of months that's not gonna be funny at all...

In the 3rd day in our home he inspected the back yard and tried to eat all the leaves he could find. We recovered most of them with "DROP" command, but apparently not all of them - so he got an upset stomach that sent us straight to the vet.
Now I have him on leash outside at all times but I don't know if this is the right thing to do... He can't roam freely, not even in our fenced yard, and i feel for him.

He's on Hill's Science Diet for large breeds, puppies. He doesn't like it very much but he seems to be healthy, shiny and active with it, especially after the stomach pb.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Jack is precious! Check the calcium and phosphorous levels on the food, puppy food is not recommended for mastiffs as it causes them to grow too quickly which = unhealthy mastiff. Slow and steady growth is key because they continue to grow until 2-3 years of age. You may want to reconsider the food as Hill's Science Diet is not a good food.

Check the calcium and phosphorus chart I posted in the food section of my first post.
 

teodora

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oh, i didn't know ! :( Diet was recommended by his vet - he was on Pedigree Vital and Purina Tux: Vital with rice and chicken makes his stool very loose, and Tux is a treat, not the usual food....
Thanks, I'll do a bit of research to see what exactly is best for a Mastiff baby.
 

teodora

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right... That one is not very cheap either, so I could as well buy a good food for my puppy. Can you guys please recommend some proper food - i did some research and I am more confused than ever. A puppy needs all the nutrients on the other side he doesn't need - and I don't see the point to give him - high energy food. He's less than 4 months, he doesn't have complete immunization yet, i can't take him on the beaches and exercise him properly as we're not allowed outside with other dogs/ in parvo risks areas, and any high energy food will just make him a turbo machine running around our small yard....
I'm quite frustrated because this is an important stage in his young life, and i can't get him outside: i can't teach him to walk beside us, and we're missing a lot of lessons for him/great moments for us, but that's it: i will wait for him to get the last vaccine, i don't wanna risk his health.
 

musicdeb

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I'm not sure what foods are available to you in New Zealand. Check dogfoodadvisor.com for food ratings and customer feedback, however, I'm not sure if all the foods in NZ are listed.

Go with with a large breed adult or all stages food. Check the calcium and phosphorous levels to be sure they are not too high. If you can give us a list of some of the foods you are interested in, we can check them out and give you our feedback.

RE: walking outside. Follow the leash training tips in the info I posted earlier. At 8-9 weeks, which is about the time you will be able to walk him outside, he will be afraid of everything and stay close to you.

When walking Jack, do not cuddle or baby him when he becomes afraid. Bring motivational reward with you when you go out to walk.

When he becomes afraid, bring him to a sit and have him look/focus at you while you are standing in front of him. Reward him when he sits and looks/focuses on you. After a few minutes/seconds, when he*s relaxed (good opportunity to learn his body language as to when he is becoming afraid), start walking again after you have put your shoulders back and taken a deep breath. You can teach him “let*s go”, “walk” or just start walking.

Continue walking and watch his body language. If you see he*s becoming afraid, repeat the above steps.

As with all training, this requires consistency with motivational reward/positive reinforcement and LOTS of patience.
 

teodora

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thank you for advice. There are heaps of brands, some of them seem to be pretty well known, others are kinda noname... : Acana (for now i guess this would be the best choice), Addiction, Advance, Eukanuba, Go!, Hill's Ideal Balance, Hill's Science Diet (Jack's food now), Iams, K9 Natural, Now Fresh, Nutrience, Nutro Natural Choice, Organix, Orijen, Pro Plan, Royal Canin, Wishbone, and of course Pedigree and Purina ....
I can also order online from intl. shops, so this wouldn't be a pb.

Jack is quite well balanced: he doesn't get spooked. We had some walks in our back and front yard. We had fire alarms & firetrucks passing by, some aggressive stray cats in the garden at night, fireworks, and so on. He looks very interested but calm: he doesn't cry, freeze, run or hide. He stands his ground. I want to take him to the ocean for a walk- there are some wild beaches around. I don't know if that would be too risky: i hope not.
The only thing he strongly dislikes is travelling by car and he keeps pushing to get on my lap while i am driving. I don't know if this is a temporary issue - and what should I do to make his life easier in the car. I didn't have this problem with any of my dogs before. They all loved to jump in the car and take long rides.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Does he ride in the back seat? Keep his leash on him so you can have control of him in the car. If he starts to get into your lap, teach him "stay". Bring motivational reward with you in the car and use the opportunity to train him what you want him to do.

If you change his food, remember to do a slow transition.

Slow transition to the new food is as follows to prevent diarrhea. If at any time during the transition, the pup has diarrhea return to previous amounts of food per feeding. If you are switching flavors made by the same manufacturer, you should not have to do a slow transition.

Amount per feeding:

Day 1-4 ¾ cup of old food and ¼ cup of new food.

Day 5-9 ½ cup of old food and ½ cup of new food.

Day 10-14 ¾ cup of new food and ¼ cup of old food

Day 15 Start 100% of new food
 

teodora

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10x. :)
i tried front seat, back seat, my kid holding him, with or without his blanket, with or without his crate... with or without AC, and basically any possible place in the car - no chance. He's desperately running/climbing/jumping all over the place and when i try to keep him still or on leash he cries like he's hurt. Well, he cries anyway in the car, but not on that high pitch tone: i drove 40 km yesterday with a serenade all the way back and forth... I'm pretty sure he would jump straight out the window if given any chance. I tried water, treats, food, toys - no avail. He's just fine as long as the car doesn't move.
 

swanguy7

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right... That one is not very cheap either, so I could as well buy a good food for my puppy. Can you guys please recommend some proper food - i did some research and I am more confused than ever. A puppy needs all the nutrients on the other side he doesn't need - and I don't see the point to give him - high energy food. He's less than 4 months, he doesn't have complete immunization yet, i can't take him on the beaches and exercise him properly as we're not allowed outside with other dogs/ in parvo risks areas, and any high energy food will just make him a turbo machine running around our small yard....
I'm quite frustrated because this is an important stage in his young life, and i can't get him outside: i can't teach him to walk beside us, and we're missing a lot of lessons for him/great moments for us, but that's it: i will wait for him to get the last vaccine, i don't wanna risk his health.

Are u in New Zealand ? Well in Australia I find blackhawk to be best value for money for my dogs and they love it and do well on it . About $115 for 20 kilo bag or $60 for 10 kilo bag
 

teodora

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Are u in New Zealand ? Well in Australia I find blackhawk to be best value for money for my dogs and they love it and do well on it . About $115 for 20 kilo bag or $60 for 10 kilo bag
Blackhawk Holistic Puppy Food-Lamb and Rice?

I found it - great value for money indeed, i try a 3 kilo bag first and i hope Jack will like it :) Thanks a lot!
Yep, we're in South Wairarapa, NZ.