How much to feed: Raw

[joshuagough]

Looking for some advice on oz's/lbs - per pound of dog to feed when going raw?

Also I got a list from a local chicken distributor, what of these would you feed and which wouldn't you & why? Thinking of this as a starting point.

Livers frozen

Gizzards frozen

necks frozen

backs fresh

leg qtrs bulk frozen

leg qtrs fresh

drums small frozen

Thanks for your time..

 

[ruthcatrin]

Usual starting point is 2.5% of the dog's ideal (or estimated) adult weight. Highly active dogs, or pups, may end up eating more.

To START, for your intro to raw, skip the organs. Later, once the dog is adapted you'll want them yes.

 

[angelbears]

In a regular food rotation all those would be fine. Personally, I don't do the necks or backs, too bony and I can get leg quarters cheaper. Check to see if you can get chicken feet, combs, heads.... I use them as treats and they are excellent for their joints.

I was just looking at some expensive joint sups and in bold letters on the front " Now includes chicken cartilage".

 

[musicdeb]

I agree, I would feed Titan most of what was listed except the necks and backs. I feed Titan turkey necks and he prefers drumsticks over leg quarters. He's weird...

 

[joshuagough]

Thanks I will ask if they have those as well, these are all finished good so unless they sell it to a store I don't know that I can get it.

I've been reading for about 2 months now, what's included in your rotation?

In a regular food rotation all those would be fine. Personally, I don't do the necks or backs, too bony and I can get leg quarters cheaper. Check to see if you can get chicken feet, combs, heads.... I use them as treats and they are excellent for their joints.

I was just looking at some expensive joint sups and in bold letters on the front " Now includes chicken cartilage".

 

[ruthcatrin]

Yah in general we skip necks and backs, but for starting out when you usually need extra bone to avoid diarrhea they're handy.

 

[angelbears]

Chicken -- All

Pork -- No weight bearing bones. Ribs( I stock up on these when on sale), Butts and picnics, I debone and save the bone for beans. These are the cuts that I can find for 1.50 or less. Of course other cuts in that price range I will buy it. I usually don't feed the bone in pork chops.

Beef -- Ground beef, Green tripe, heart, roast. I don't feed any beef bones but I will let them have a beef rib for a snack and take it away when they strip the meat off.

Turkey --Any turkey meat, the only bone I feed is the neck and butt.

Duck -- All

Organs -- From all animals.

The above items are the staples, I have fed lamb, frog legs, fish( they all hate fish but love shrimp)), anything that comes close to my target price of 1.50 or less per pound.

The more variety the better.

---------- Post added at 08:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 PM ----------

Ruth have you found a source for unicorn tongues yet? :lolbangtable:

 

[angelbears]

Ruth have you found a source for unicorn tongues yet? :lolbangtable:

 

[ruthcatrin]

Ruth have you found a source for unicorn tongues yet? :lolbangtable:

Lol! Not yet!

I get goat fairly frequently, treat it about like pork bone wise, oh and my boys love pork necks....

If you can get rabbit, the whole animal is edible,

 

[joshuagough]

Good deal thanks for typing all that out, everything I listed I can get for less than .55 a pound, that's for the fresh legs on my list. I'm going to try to find a beef source and I want to try them on some fish. Dunno where I could get rabbit or duck yet..

I'm guessing Tucker will end up around 185, not sure.. thinking I'm going to do 3.0% which equals 44.5 ozs or 2.77lbs a meal x 2. Yall doing twice a day?

Chicken -- All

Pork -- No weight bearing bones. Ribs( I stock up on these when on sale), Butts and picnics, I debone and save the bone for beans. These are the cuts that I can find for 1.50 or less. Of course other cuts in that price range I will buy it. I usually don't feed the bone in pork chops.

Beef -- Ground beef, Green tripe, heart, roast. I don't feed any beef bones but I will let them have a beef rib for a snack and take it away when they strip the meat off.

Turkey --Any turkey meat, the only bone I feed is the neck and butt.

Duck -- All

Organs -- From all animals.

The above items are the staples, I have fed lamb, frog legs, fish( they all hate fish but love shrimp)), anything that comes close to my target price of 1.50 or less per pound.

The more variety the better.

---------- Post added at 08:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:46 PM ----------

Ruth have you found a source for unicorn tongues yet? :lolbangtable:

 

[ruthcatrin]

Three technically, though for Apollo breakfast is more of a snack, he isn't usually hungry first thing any more, but since we're feeding Arty then I end up having to give him something.

 

[angelbears]

Mine get fed twice a day.

Cane is about 170 and gets 1 1/2 pounds each feeding, this does not include snacks.

Ziva is about 120 and is on the fat side, so she only gets 14 oz each feeding.

Asian markets are great for duck, fish, rabbit and pork organs.

I was getting a lot of their meat from a wholesaler. That was close to what I was paying. However, I'm retired and I have extra time to shop for bargains and discounts at our local grocery stores. I'm spending a little more on their food but I have cut our families food bill in half.

 

[musicdeb]

Titan is fed twice a day as well. angelbears, you always find better meat prices than I do in the Dallas area. Kroger has chicken legs on sale this week for .99 a lb. Yea!!!!!

 

[DennasMom]

I just posted this on another thread... so here 'tis again:

Denna gets about 26 lbs of 'stuff' each week (2% of expected adult weight per day x7):
13+ lbs boneless beef, venison and/or pork
10+ lbs poultry (which turns into ~2.5 lbs bone and 7.5 lbs meat) mostly turkey, I think Denna has an issue with chicken.
1lb 5oz beef or pork liver
1lb 5oz kidney (or spleen, or pancreas depending on what I can find)
plus 2 raw eggs (per week)

I still feed her twice a day, so it's just over 1.5lbs of 'stuff' for each meal. She would prefer more... but when we tried that, she put on weight and lost her girly figure.

I'm finishing off some chicken drums now. Denna does chew them - most of the time. But, they're a swallowable size and choking hazard, so I won't be getting those again. Chicken quarters would be good - if I can confirm we don't have a chicken allergy... so far, so good.

SO, from your list:

Livers frozen - yes

Gizzards frozen - yes (these are considered meat, not organ)

necks frozen - no, too much bone, and size is choking hazard

backs fresh - no, too much bone

leg qtrs bulk frozen - YES

leg qtrs fresh - no, size is choking hazard

drums small frozen

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Well... the copy/paste didn't exactly work... didn't see the "leg qtrs fresh"... that would be "YES". The 'drums small frozen' would be NO.

 

[DennasMom]

Well... the copy/paste didn't exactly work... didn't see the "leg qtrs fresh"... that would be "YES". The 'drums small frozen' would be NO.

 

[joshuagough]

Thank you Denna's Mom.. the guy is loving some chicken, it's pretty neat to watch him eat now.

 

[Sadies Mom]

Thank you Denna's Mom.. the guy is loving some chicken, it's pretty neat to watch him eat now.

I love to watch Sadie enjoy her chicken. I feed her twice per day and I do 3% of her expected adult weight since she needs to gain weight. She lost 8 lbs in a week while she was on rice/hamburger, so she is trying to get caught up.

 

[joshuagough]

The wife and I just finished bagging 200lbs of chicken, then cleaning up the kitchen.

Should last us 36 days from what I've figured up, that was a lot of work.

 

[Wyo- Dogue de Bordeaux]

Not to hi-jack the post but could someone explain to me what exactly raw feed means? It any part of it cooked? I had asked my vet about this who totally freaked out and wanted me to put my dog on royal canine, but when doing the points in dog food the food he is on now is better. We have thought about doing this but there is nobody here in Wyoming to even ask. I guess that is what you get living in a very rural area.

 

[Sadies Mom]

Most vets freak out when you tell them. They do not have a clue, so I am not surprised. This is what I have followed so far and Sadie is doing great. She has been battling diarrhea her whole life and she is finally solid!! I was very nervous before I started, but I found this link and it then it did not seem so hard. Raw feed is exactly that, only raw meat. Not cooked. You will know exactly what you are feeding your dog. Do your research, take the plunge and good luck!!
http://preymodelraw.com/how-to-get-started/