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Pictures of Peeta my new Fila puppy

carlasue

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They didnt tell me anything and I just assumed Masstiff were all pretty even tempered and gentle like my sisters Saint Bernard so I made the mistake of not reasearchng the breed type, I love the little guy and he isnt going anywhere I just need to get a behavior coach to help me learn to train him. I think they just wanted the money, he is papered but that is the only info I was given I knew better than to impulse buy a puppy but he just won me over immediately. I will work with him and if he needs to just be at home that is fine with me he is smart and loyal he follows me everywhere and doesnt like to be away from me except to play with my two pitts who think he is pretty cool.
 

chuckorlando

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Theres nothing really to be scared of. Just pay attention and I would not make a habit of letting him run free in public. As a small pup it aint really an issue. But pnce they begin to distrust strangers it's a huge issue. Anyone the dog is around all the time you will likely be fine. Even grown, with enough time and attention you can bring new people around. But it will take alot of time. Your best bet is to keep the pup leashed and others out side of the strike range. I'm able to stand right there and talk with almost anyone. She just sits at my side. But just one fast movement and she's all go. So she will always be on a short leash so to speak. When we went riding buggies in Tn a month or so ago there was about 30 folks in our group. She did just fine. Sure we had those barking and lunging issues from time to time. But again she's never in a situation where she can do damage. You just have to be on your game and let others know up front she aint friendly.

These dogs typicly aint dog aggressive like a pit. But they may become the alpha or fight to become such. I've never had a issue with fighting as Kona just over powers our dane. The dane just lays down and takes second place. This may not be the case with all of them but something for you to keep an eye on.

In my opinion Filas are top notch animals. They are not hard to deal with at all. Basicly keep them away from the public or at least out of strike range. Kona trust me and if I aint worried she aint worried. for the most part
 

angelbears

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Chuck, the problem for us is that we don't have the physical strength to hold ours back, so we just don't get close enough that it is a problem. Cane is right at 170 and has a neck thicker than most mens waist. A choke collar really doesn't even phase him.
 

chuckorlando

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And you make changes so thats not an issue. I just dont want anyone thinking these dogs are bad. They really aint. Their great animals. You just have to learn what you can handle what situations safe for your pup. My wife would never be around folks holding Kona for that very reason. She simply could not keep her in her place. But theres simply nothing to be scared or worried about.

At the camp ground we had Kona on a lead that she simply could not break. We arranged the chairs so that the only people Kona could get by was me or the wife. Kona had a 10ft zone in any direction to walk including the cabin porch and door.

You need to know your dog and your self. If you cant physicly hold the dog and the dog is not gonna play games you would be foolish to do what I do. But even then you may find ways to have your out door fun. If you know what you can handle and how the dogs gonna act, it's not all that hard to keep a fila. No harder than keeping a child by any means. You put child locks and plug protectors and all the jazz up for a kid. Same concept diffrent means. You just have to be realistic about the whole situation.
 

allsierra123

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It's a lifestyle change. And no behavior coaching or training will turn a proper temped fila into a dog that will tolerate a stranger within the strike zone. I haven't heard of any with blue eyes. Juan might weigh in on this from what I have read the blue eyed denote mixed breeding.

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dogman#1

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filas dont come with blue eyes in either standard and is an automatic disqualification for show or breeding purposes. like most dogs some pups are born w/ blue-ish eyes which goes away pretty quick.
 

angelbears

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Chuck, you are so right! Filas are not bad dogs, they are the best dogs that I have ever owned. The problem is people get these dogs and don't even know what they have. As someone who loves and respects this breed I feel as if we are in a Damned if you do, Damned if you don't, situation. I don't like coming on these boards and talking about Filas and their temperament. On the other hand, I think it would be worse if we didn't. Fila are no longer a rare breed that only knowledgeable dog people can get their hands on. They are becoming main stream and are in the hands of byb's who are only in it to make money.

I would love to just be able to come on here and tell you how gentle Cane is with us. I have to torture him every day because of his skin problems. I have had to put creams and salves on open sores that burn like hell. When it has really hurt, he just bows his head with his eyes down cast and growls a little low rumble. Not at me, not in anger but in pain. He sits there and lets me do it, then when we are done, he gives me his sweet boy kiss. That my friend is the Fila. So devoted and trusting of their family. There is not a better breed out there as long as they are in the right hands.
 

dogman#1

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Chuck, you are so right! Filas are not bad dogs, they are the best dogs that I have ever owned. The problem is people get these dogs and don't even know what they have. As someone who loves and respects this breed I feel as if we are in a Damned if you do, Damned if you don't, situation. I don't like coming on these boards and talking about Filas and their temperament. On the other hand, I think it would be worse if we didn't. Fila are no longer a rare breed that only knowledgeable dog people can get their hands on. They are becoming main stream and are in the hands of byb's who are only in it to make money.

I would love to just be able to come on here and tell you how gentle Cane is with us. I have to torture him every day because of his skin problems. I have had to put creams and salves on open sores that burn like hell. When it has really hurt, he just bows his head with his eyes down cast and growls a little low rumble. Not at me, not in anger but in pain. He sits there and lets me do it, then when we are done, he gives me his sweet boy kiss. That my friend is the Fila. So devoted and trusting of their family. There is not a better breed out there as long as they are in the right hands.

very true.
 

Cody

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Chuck, you are so right! Filas are not bad dogs, they are the best dogs that I have ever owned. The problem is people get these dogs and don't even know what they have. As someone who loves and respects this breed I feel as if we are in a Damned if you do, Damned if you don't, situation. I don't like coming on these boards and talking about Filas and their temperament. On the other hand, I think it would be worse if we didn't. Fila are no longer a rare breed that only knowledgeable dog people can get their hands on. They are becoming main stream and are in the hands of byb's who are only in it to make money.

I would love to just be able to come on here and tell you how gentle Cane is with us. I have to torture him every day because of his skin problems. I have had to put creams and salves on open sores that burn like hell. When it has really hurt, he just bows his head with his eyes down cast and growls a little low rumble. Not at me, not in anger but in pain. He sits there and lets me do it, then when we are done, he gives me his sweet boy kiss. That my friend is the Fila. So devoted and trusting of their family. There is not a better breed out there as long as they are in the right hands.
That made me tear up a little!
Beautiful.
 

Oak Hill Farm

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Chuck, you are so right! Filas are not bad dogs, they are the best dogs that I have ever owned. The problem is people get these dogs and don't even know what they have. As someone who loves and respects this breed I feel as if we are in a Damned if you do, Damned if you don't, situation. I don't like coming on these boards and talking about Filas and their temperament. On the other hand, I think it would be worse if we didn't. Fila are no longer a rare breed that only knowledgeable dog people can get their hands on. They are becoming main stream and are in the hands of byb's who are only in it to make money.

I would love to just be able to come on here and tell you how gentle Cane is with us. I have to torture him every day because of his skin problems. I have had to put creams and salves on open sores that burn like hell. When it has really hurt, he just bows his head with his eyes down cast and growls a little low rumble. Not at me, not in anger but in pain. He sits there and lets me do it, then when we are done, he gives me his sweet boy kiss. That my friend is the Fila. So devoted and trusting of their family. There is not a better breed out there as long as they are in the right hands.

Best story, tearing up myself!


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Mooshi's Mummy

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Am I alone here in being a little bothered that the breeder seems to be selling Fila pups to just about anyone (no disrespect intended carlasue). But this Fila baby, who will soon grow to a full grown dog with hopefully with a proper Fila personality has been allowed to go to someone who knows next to nothing about the breed. Its great that everyone here is happy to listen and give advise and its GREAT that carlasue wants to get a trainer in. But will this trainer really know the breed and what they are all about? Im just a little nervous here because if I read this right when the puppy grows and starts protecting it people from other people then it will simply have run of the backyard with a doggy door. What kind of life is this for the dog? I dont think for one minute Fila's are bad dogs, I think they are fantastic dogs for the right kind of person in the right kind of envrionment that is suited to the Fila. I know I for one wouldn't dream of owning a Fila, I dont have the knowledge, strenght or environment for one and therefore it would be irresponsible of me to just get one because it was cute and I fell in love with its puppy face.

i really dont mean to sound horrible here but I have to ask....what about the dog?
 

chuckorlando

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Well of coarse it's horrible that this breader will not just sale the dog to anyone but not even educate then buyer on what this dog really is. But theres nothing to be done. You call them and explain your situation, and almost certainly be told to pound sand. But thats about all there is to do. I did alot of reading before I got Kona and it amounted to almost nothing in reality. Untill you own a Fila you will not understand. You might think you do like I did, but you dont. She's better off her getting real advice than any thing I've ever read simply because reading makes them seem like your avg agressive dog. They simply are not.

My real concern is what happened to the other pups. There is a litter out there for which only one has come looking for advice. And did'nt wait to seek advice till there was a problem. So I'm pretty sure this pup will be ok. But the other pups is what worries me. Cause like I said, had I not come here and the fila forum myself, I did'nt get it.

I've allowed my dogs for years to have run of the back yard via dog door. I have a tall board on board privacy fence and some chicken wire and wire fence in the mix as well. Thats not by any means all the attention the dog gets. But if we aint home or inside they can do their thing. Plus in my opinion, nothing in your back yard is safe if your dogs inside, nothing in the house is safe if the dogs out back. I dont have a problem with a dog having run of the yard. Provided the yard can hold the dog.

Far as training goes, well it dont matter much if they know the breed long as the pups young enough. You just dont want to train with a hard hand. But truth is, their easy to train. If your end goal is to have a Fila under military type control, well thats diff. By that I mean a true protection trained animal. One that will turn on and off on command. That I would assume would call for alot of breed experiance. But sit, stay, look, no, back, out, those are fairly easy with Kona and I aint no trainer. Just listen to the fine folks here like I did.
 

angelbears

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Thank you all. We all just love our dogs. Especially, mastiffs! They are just special. BTW, while we do have to clean and usually keep some kind of med on Cane. It is rarely that bad.

Mooshi, I hear you! For me it has always been about the dog. Filas are showing up in shelters in astoundingly high numbers if you consider what a small portion of the dog population they are. There is not much we can do except to warn people in the sternest way possible. Most show up here already owning the dog. Most don't really believe us because they have wonderful, playful pups but they do grow up.
 

Mooshi's Mummy

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Thats my concern angel....IMO a Fila is a dog to be taken seriously and with a great deal of respect (clearly you and chuck have that) and i am sure that carlasue will too as she is here already asking questions which is great. i just dont want to hear about the day when something goes wrong, terribly wrong because of that 'cute puppy face buy'. comments like 'I just assumed Masstiff were all pretty even tempered and gentle like my sisters Saint Bernard' tend to get my back up, education should come first in my books and while you cant real life get experience until you actually own the breed its flights of fancy that I worry about, expecially with a breed such as a Fila. I would consider myself a pretty seasoned dog owner but not enough for a Fila, not just yet and I am 45 years old with plenty of large breed experience behind me, training for others and dog assessing for a Akita charity. So lacking I am not, a Fila owner?? Nope Im not ready. Call me cautious maybe but not without cause.
 

chuckorlando

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I think most folks aint Fila owners. Unfortunately most dont realize this till they own one of these even tempered angles. hahahahaha. It's deff a huge issue. But all we can do is talk straight to folks when they want to ask for help. And like AB said, most think were full of sh%$. Oh it's just your avg aggressive dog. Oh a dogs how you raise it. Well these aint pits. Aint no raising it to like people. Thats where the real problem comes in. And thats why most folks should'nt have one as well. They dont like people, period, end of the whole concept
 

Mooshi's Mummy

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I think most folks aint Fila owners. Unfortunately most dont realize this till they own one of these even tempered angles. hahahahaha. It's deff a huge issue. But all we can do is talk straight to folks when they want to ask for help. And like AB said, most think were full of sh%$. Oh it's just your avg aggressive dog. Oh a dogs how you raise it. Well these aint pits. Aint no raising it to like people. Thats where the real problem comes in. And thats why most folks should'nt have one as well. They dont like people, period, end of the whole concept
You are very right there chuck! And people who get them for their cute puppy faces scare the crap outta me!! Wrong dog in wrong hands could be a lethal combo!!
 

chuckorlando

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Very lovable. hahahahahaha
 

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