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Raw Feeding..Where is the poop??

angelbears

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I agree with both of the above with one caveat: Dogs with skin or some other health issues should avoid carbs, which are sugars.

Our dogs are on the prey model and their meal times are only meat but our two girls get cheat treats all the time. Our male has dealt with skin issues most all his life so we are more strict with him but he does get a little something extra here and there.
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
If you want your dog to benefit from fruit or vegetable matter freeze it. Freezing breaks the cellulose wall and allows the nutrients to be absorbed in the dogs digestive tract. Grinding, pulping and pureeing still leaves that wall intact. I still sneak my dogs rice, noodles or potatoes but not enough to cause bulky stools or gas. Oh and both Carbs, fruits and veggies will contribute to gas in a dogs gut.
 

Sadies Mom

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I started adding frozen veggies to Sadie's diet and the burping and the farts were not pleasant. I have cut it down to only giving it as treats since everything else seems to give her the runs.
 

slim12

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Feeding green tripe with the veggies will help break them down but like RuthC said th digestive process for the dog is short and relatively quick. Green tripe is great for the dogs and they love it, but its like the ass from a dead skunk.
 

angelbears

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Feeding green tripe with the veggies will help break them down but like RuthC said th digestive process for the dog is short and relatively quick. Green tripe is great for the dogs and they love it, but its like the ass from a dead skunk.

Yep, that shit stinks but whenever one of mine get off track poop wise, it will get them back regular better than any med.
 

Gia

Active Member
Glad I found this thread I transitioned a week ago and I have been on poop watch an entire week because it was either not the 4 times a day as I was used to or it was too small :D I am over joyed no more horse poo!
 

Mary

New Member
I just joined today and am grateful for such a forum. My mastiff is 2yrs. 3mos old. Want to raw feed and at this point don't know how to start. Will continue reading in hopes of finding raw feeding info. I would love to see those little bitty poops too.:) Mary
 

musicdeb

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Glad I found this thread I transitioned a week ago and I have been on poop watch an entire week because it was either not the 4 times a day as I was used to or it was too small :D I am over joyed no more horse poo!
Yes, you will kinda freak out asking yourself, "where's the poop?" Titan usually poops every other day.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
I just joined today and am grateful for such a forum. My mastiff is 2yrs. 3mos old. Want to raw feed and at this point don't know how to start. Will continue reading in hopes of finding raw feeding info. I would love to see those little bitty poops too.:) Mary
Welcome Mary, you've come to the right place.
 

Mulldog

Active Member
see .. . theres the benefit of threads like this!!! i was worried!!! whew. thanks to those who started this forum and this thread, specifically.

Go Bodhi Go!!!!
 
Indeed this is the place to come! Ive had klaus about a week and 3/4 days of the raw diet. Just eating ground turkey and today chewing on a turkey neck! Good poop yesterday day and nothing yet today. But regular pee so I'm not worried. The raw diet is so far so good. I love this place!
Isarma
 

Bh-k9

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Feeding green tripe with the veggies will help break them down but like RuthC said th digestive process for the dog is short and relatively quick. Green tripe is great for the dogs and they love it, but its like the ass from a dead skunk.

The tripe is awesome I feed a healthy dose four times per week--IMO its what's keeping my 14 year old gsd looking and acting like an eight year old.
 

Bh-k9

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That sure sounds like way too much tripe to me.


Great! Glad it sounds like to much to you- my dogs, vet, and decoys seem to think other wise!

Have you ever watched animal planet? What's the first part of the animal carnivores go for???

There is a large section in the yahoo raw forum of people that ONLY feed tripe and nothing else.
 

DMikeM

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Yes sure they go after the soft easy to chew and digest stuff first. That does not mean it is the best of the animal as a food source. And I could not care any less about a yahoo group of peoples preferences. Excessive amounts of organ meat is not good for your dog. It is your choice but your dog may suffer from your preference.

"The digestive enzymes that are so touted as being beneficial, are only helpful to the herbivore while it is alive, since they need and have evolved to have them in their gut to help digest plant matter, and extract the 'good' from it, since the proteins are low quality. A ruminant's digestive enzymes have no benefit for a carnivore, since carnivores as a rule do not eat the stomach contents of prey, and have their own evolved digestive enzymes and probiotics that assist in digestion and assimilation of meat, the digestible constituents in bones, and fat.

Yes, its true, dogs - and wolves - do not eat the contents of the stomach. They shake the digesta out, and eat the stomach itself, except in the case of very small prey.

Tripe is just meat, plain and simple, And, if you check it out alongside other meats in the USDA Nutrient Database, its not a particularly high quality meat. It has value, yes, as a body part, and part of variety, but shouldn't be fed to extremes.


Its singular value is that its supremely stinky, and most dogs go wild over it. So, sicky and aged and other dogs that need encouragement to eat, or eat more, or even to try something new, will often eat it, or meat/organs 'marinated' in it, even if they refuse other foods."
 

Bh-k9

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Yes sure they go after the soft easy to chew and digest stuff first. That does not mean it is the best of the animal as a food source. And I could not care any less about a yahoo group of peoples preferences. Excessive amounts of organ meat is not good for your dog. It is your choice but your dog may suffer from your preference.



"The digestive enzymes that are so touted as being beneficial, are only helpful to the herbivore while it is alive, since they need and have evolved to have them in their gut to help digest plant matter, and extract the 'good' from it, since the proteins are low quality. A ruminant's digestive enzymes have no benefit for a carnivore, since carnivores as a rule do not eat the stomach contents of prey, and have their own evolved digestive enzymes and probiotics that assist in digestion and assimilation of meat, the digestible constituents in bones, and fat.

Yes, its true, dogs - and wolves - do not eat the contents of the stomach. They shake the digesta out, and eat the stomach itself, except in the case of very small prey.

Tripe is just meat, plain and simple, And, if you check it out alongside other meats in the USDA Nutrient Database, its not a particularly high quality meat. It has value, yes, as a body part, and part of variety, but shouldn't be fed to extremes.


Its singular value is that its supremely stinky, and most dogs go wild over it. So, sicky and aged and other dogs that need encouragement to eat, or eat more, or even to try something new, will often eat it, or meat/organs 'marinated' in it, even if they refuse other foods."


I own two filas, a malinoi, cane corso, and three Czech shepherds, I have a house that is a constant rotating door for behavior modifications of trouble k9s and the worst cases of Un adoptable game bred pitbulls. They eat four nice size doses of tripe a week. Not sure how four times a week tripe would be excessive that averages about 16 cups per month per dog. Any of these dogs will out work that boerboel on your aviator. So if excessive amounts of tripe gives me a healthier better looking dog, then fine you win it's excessive. I spend twelve hours a day with the dogs and have seen first hand what a difference green tripe has made in all the dogs no matter the breed.

Tripe is just meat?? B.s, tripe has semi digested fruits, vegetables, and grasses .. When was the last time your steak had broken down vegetable matter inside it?
 

Bh-k9

Well-Known Member
This was copied from dogs naturally magize


The same digestive enzymes and beneficial bacteria that help the ruminant animal digest foodstuff will do the same for your dog. Think how much money you can spend on digestive enzymes and probiotics in a bottle and those same wonderful, natural substances are in abundance in green tripe.

Digestive enzymes aid in digestion, meaning the body does not have to expend as much energy when digesting a meal. This means your dog gets the most nutritional benefit from his meals. Digestive enzymes also do much more than aid in digestion: they purify and cleanse the blood and remove toxins, parasites and fungus. They also improve metabolism, hormonal function and boost the immune system.

Cooking destroys digestive enzymes, so it is important that your dog’s tripe is not only green, but raw. If your dog eats a cooked or commercial diet, then he may be suffering from enzyme deficiency. The signs of this can include anxiety, lack of energy, chronic diarrhea and digestive problems, gingivitis, viral and bacterial infections and yeast overgrowth. If your dog suffers from any of these disorders, consider the value of adding green tripe to his diet or increasing the amount you currently feed.

The gut is populated by hundreds of different kinds of bacteria or microflora which are divided into the ‘good guys’ and the ‘bad guys’. The ‘bad’ bacteria are those responsible for health complaints and some of their members include e- coli, salmonella, campylobacter and listeria. These are the bacteria contained in foods and the environment that could potentially make your dog sick: if it weren’t for the protection of the ‘good’ bacteria.

The good bacteria improve immune function simply by out- numbering the bad bacteria and maintaining a healthy microflora in the gut. Green tripe is loaded with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, one of the bacterial ‘good guys’. Your dog’s gut can only feed so many micro-organisms, so the more ‘good’ bacteria he consumes, the less ‘bad’ bacteria will find anything to eat in his gut and they will get crowded out.

Many health issues are caused by imbalance in the microflora. Older dogs are especially prone to this as they tend to have lower levels of beneficial bacteria in their guts. Supplementing your dog’s diet with lots of raw, green tripe will help him maintain a healthy balance of microflora, manufacture more B vitamins, and prevent many health disorders.

If your dog already suffers from health issues, consider adding raw, green tripe to his diet. Acidophilus can be used to treat a myriad of health complaints.

More good news
Not only is tripe loaded with digestive enzymes and probiotics, it has the perfect ratio of calcium to phosphorus – 1:1. Green tripe also contains the essential fatty acids, Linoleic and Linolenic, in their recommended proportions. It can also be served in nice, large rubbery chunks which will provide your dog with good exercise and better dental health.
 

DMikeM

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Whatever you want big man. You can put your peepee away now yours is obviously far larger than mine, just like your doggie is better than my doggie. I wouldn't want to upset your balance or feeding routine you do it your way I do it mine. BTW my last 2 dogs were 17 and 18 at time of death, and my current older dogs are 14 and 15. My way is not the same as yours but it seems to work for us.
 

DennasMom

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Whew. Too much testosterone flying around here!!

I'll add my $0.02 worth of estrogen... Denna gets 2-4oz a day of green tripe with her her 4oz of organs over breakfast (1lb of boneless meat). I buy it by the case (ground, from greentripe.com) via our bulk order coop for under $3/lb - which is about what I pay for the beef roasts I get. So... for me, it's something Denna enjoys, I believe is good for her and isn't overly expensive.

People who feed just green tripe I think are missing out on some of the best points of feeding raw. Namely, that there is value in variety. I don't think green tripe is a complete food any more than I think beef is a complete food. You need the "whole prey" to get all the nutrients you need, and for us feeding from the grocery store, "whole prey" means adding in lots of variety in everything...

BTW - Mike, I think your dogs are awesome, so you're obviously doing something right in my book.

Ok, so maybe that was $0.04. :)
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
Yep my Testosterone just can't compare with his though so I beg out.

There is more than one organ meat and plenty of benefits from using everything you can get your hands on.

Thanks, I think my pups are awesome too.

Whew. Too much testosterone flying around here!!

I'll add my $0.02 worth of estrogen... Denna gets 2-4oz a day of green tripe with her her 4oz of organs over breakfast (1lb of boneless meat). I buy it by the case (ground, from greentripe.com) via our bulk order coop for under $3/lb - which is about what I pay for the beef roasts I get. So... for me, it's something Denna enjoys, I believe is good for her and isn't overly expensive.

People who feed just green tripe I think are missing out on some of the best points of feeding raw. Namely, that there is value in variety. I don't think green tripe is a complete food any more than I think beef is a complete food. You need the "whole prey" to get all the nutrients you need, and for us feeding from the grocery store, "whole prey" means adding in lots of variety in everything...

BTW - Mike, I think your dogs are awesome, so you're obviously doing something right in my book.

Ok, so maybe that was $0.04. :)