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Jadotha

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@ dujac
I'm not going there.

@ jlemon: I send you and your family my most sincere hopes for a good home for Bear -- as that is what you feel is best. AND, as I said before, I appreciate the decision was agonising. In fact, as you are not too far distant, over the weekend, I discussed with my family the possibility of taking him, as we are all very proficient at caring for a dog with problems such as Bear is having. But right now we have our puppy and an older 'special needs' adopted IWH who requires a significant amount of daily care.
 
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gcman7

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I am so sorry to hear about your Bear :( I know how hard wobblers is........I had a Doberman named Boz that the vet diagnosed with wobblers. They had put him on a lot of medication and it was helping but very minimally. I did a lot of reasearch on wobblers as I was very unfamiliar with it since Boz was our first dog to ever be diagnosed with it. I ended up taking him to a chiropractor that works on animals and that helped him tremendously. Then I went to a holistic vet that actually took him off all of the medication that our normal vet put him on and gave us holistic medicine, I am not even sure what he gave us but we were willing to try anything to help him. After taking the medicine from the holistic vet and seeing the chiropractor, the improvement was amazing. Boz actually lived a active pain free life for three more years after diagnosis.

I am sure the decision you are making is very diffucult but I just want you to let you know that there are possible other options to ease his pain and yours! I hope everything works out :)

I'm sure a lot of you have seen my post about Bear and his diagnosis of Wobblers. Tonight my wife and I talked and came to the very hard decision that we are not capable of giving Bear the care he needs. We are now reaching out to the Mastiff community for someone to take over Bear for us. This is neither a quick or easy decision for us to make as Bear means so much to us and our kids. If someone were to take him we would prefer him to be the only dog in the family. He gets a long great with other dogs and kids but we would just prefer it that way. We would also like to see him from time to time if possible. He is currently on Phycox and Neuroplex. He does get around fine on the carpeting but cannot do hardwood or linoleum. Our vet said he has a good year left in him and maybe more. He tires easily outside and sometimes needs help getting back up the stairs. He is the definitive of Gentle Giant. I cannot watch my wife cry anymore when she sees him crying because he cannot get up or falls trying to play like a 10 month old Mastiff wants too. If no one can help its perfectly understandable as it will be a difficult road for Bear. If that is the case then we willl continue to care and love him until he gives up.

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Many pictures of Bear here
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Duetsche_Doggen

Well-Known Member
I've never had any experience with wobblers and can't even imagine the frustration and heartache your going through. It takes a strong person to admit that this is too much for them, it takes time, patience, and above all money. Don't let anyone discourage you about your decision, there topics that we are highly passionate about and sometimes we let our emotions get the best of us. Honestly we mean no harm. I hope Bear finds a good home.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
I've never had any experience with wobblers and can't even imagine the frustration and heartache your going through. It takes a strong person to admit that this is too much for them, it takes time, patience, and above all money. Don't let anyone discourage you about your decision, there topics that we are highly passionate about and sometimes we let our emotions get the best of us. Honestly we mean no harm. I hope Bear finds a good home.
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Robtouw

Well-Known Member
I wish you luck finding Bear a family that will love him through his illnesses. I have been in a situation where I had to make tough decisions but have always stuck by my family member, in this case, my dogs. My shepherd ended up with a type of rectal cancer, of course we had to be that 1 in a million. We spent thousands, hours comforting him, giving treatments, and helping him through pain. Lasco was a wonderful dog, he went to vet schools and we tried all sorts of new treatments and in the end I euthanized him with the help of my vet when we came to the conclusion that it was time. With my Rotti, I helped him through hip replacement and severe displaysia searching for any resource possible. As a senior, I had to help him back up after he pooped because his hips would lock and he would wobble. Then came bladder leakage and all sorts of meds. He had good days and bad. Some days he would just lay in my lap and ask to be cuddled others we played. It hurt watch him walk even after we built a entrance ramp. It was very difficult and I cried alot, not for me but for him but he made it clear he was not ready to go. He was very loving and very bonded to me. I've owned a retired race horse that was going to be euthanized after falling in the Kentucky and breaking his back. After rehab he lived a good long life fulled with therapy, treatments and a lot of long expensive nights. I completely understand hardship and the hurt involved in watching him deterorate, its hard and heartbreaking, I've been there several times but I feel good about my decisions to stay loyal to my very much loved pets to their end and I know that they trusted me, knew they were loved and were given the best possible life I could.

I am a person that takes adoping a pet seriously and will not do so unless I know that it will be a lifelong adventure. Growing up my mother allowed me to have pets, but when something happened that caused a problem such as a health issue or unwanted pregnancy they would suddenly run away or we would have to give them up. I hated that and I hated her for making that happen, I understand that she did not have the resources to pay for the probs but that did not make the experience any less tramatic for me. I think that watching my mother act as though pets were disposable helped shape my intense opinions of responsible pet ownership today and I absolutely refuse to "half-way" adopt any animal, its all or nothing for me!

Best wishes for beautiful Bear!
 

DennasMom

Well-Known Member
I wish the best for you and Bear.

It's obvious to me that you love him very much. Sometimes what's best for everyone is what is hardest - and for me, and I think for you, too - giving up a pet is the hardest thing to do. I have done it before, and it was excruciatingly painful - but the one we gave away is in the best family he could ever hope for, and it allowed our senior dog to enjoy his retirement years as well (without sneak-attacks!).

I'm sure seeing the pain in his family's eyes is not good for Bear, either. Dogs have amazing thresholds for physical pain, but can be very sensitive to our pain, too. If money is the only problem, I'm sure this community and others can help you with fund raising. But, I recognize there are other factors, too. I hope you find the resources Bear needs so everyone can relax and enjoy the time we all have left.

Best wishes,
-Tina
 

angelbears

Well-Known Member
I wish the best for you and Bear.

It's obvious to me that you love him very much. Sometimes what's best for everyone is what is hardest - and for me, and I think for you, too - giving up a pet is the hardest thing to do. I have done it before, and it was excruciatingly painful - but the one we gave away is in the best family he could ever hope for, and it allowed our senior dog to enjoy his retirement years as well (without sneak-attacks!).

I'm sure seeing the pain in his family's eyes is not good for Bear, either. Dogs have amazing thresholds for physical pain, but can be very sensitive to our pain, too. If money is the only problem, I'm sure this community and others can help you with fund raising. But, I recognize there are other factors, too. I hope you find the resources Bear needs so everyone can relax and enjoy the time we all have left.

Best wishes,
-Tina


Very well said. Thank you!
 

Marrowshard

Well-Known Member
I am a person that takes adoping a pet seriously and will not do so unless I know that it will be a lifelong adventure. Growing up my mother allowed me to have pets, but when something happened that caused a problem such as a health issue or unwanted pregnancy they would suddenly run away or we would have to give them up. I hated that and I hated her for making that happen, I understand that she did not have the resources to pay for the probs but that did not make the experience any less tramatic for me. I think that watching my mother act as though pets were disposable helped shape my intense opinions of responsible pet ownership today and I absolutely refuse to "half-way" adopt any animal, its all or nothing for me!

I had a similar childhood I think ... there were a few times my parents tried to do a dog for the family and it never ended well. The first was a puppy that was "too hard to train" and mysteriously vanished, never found out where. The second was a stray we adopted, she nipped me once and she got driven out into the country and abandoned, and the last was a Dalmation rehome who was "too big and playful" for the house and had to go back. Like you, I never really forgave my parents for treating an animal like that, especially the one they abandoned. I was very young and can't say for sure I didn't accidentally provoke her, and of course puppies will be puppies.
These days, though it cost us a lot in money and emotion, when we took on Ebony the BM we did so knowing we'd never let that happen. Her issue was widespread cancer, not wobblers, so she was in pain (liver, lungs, trachea, everything compressed so she couldn't breathe or eat) and eventually we chose to euthanize her rather than watch her starve herself to death. There is always a choice, even if it's unpleasant, but until my dying day I will not forget that my parents chose to treat animals like they were disposable. Like you, it has certainly colored my outlook on dealing with pet tragedies.

Jlemon, whatever you choose to do is entirely up to you and I think it's fair to say that everyone has their breaking point. For some, it occurs much sooner and that provokes a lot of dismay in the rest of us, but it really does come down to what you feel you can or cannot handle. You have to do what's right by you and by Bear. I really do hope you find some way to resolve the situation without euthanizing, and I agree a vet college or breed rescue may be able to help. When we were dealing with Ebony, the shelter we adopted her from offered to help us pay for any treatment the vet recommended, but by the time we got her diagnosis the x-rays had already shown we were too late. I can't remember where you got Bear (breeder, shelter, etc.) but it would definitely be worth a shot :)

~Marrow
 

babyjoemurphy

Well-Known Member
My heart is breaking here. We lost our last guy in April to twisted stomach. I wouldn't have hesitated to have paid for the surgery but we were an hour away from the University and the vet said he was already in cardiac arrest. Chances were almost NIL to making it. So I made the decision that instead of an extra hour of pain, and trust me when I say he was in pain and hardly breathing I PTS. As his person I had to do what was right for him not me. He was only 5. Someone else might have tried to make the drive, made it and everything turn out good. Or tried to make the drive and had their guy die in their car. Everyone deals with things differently.
I could take care of a sick pet, were my husband would have a hard time. I have mother instinct. When you add children to the mix, it adds more stress to this situation. Then marriages start collapsing. It is as easy as that. STRESS is a powerfull thing.
I may be all the way in left field here, but when you boil it all down it comes to one thing. If the family can't do it, then stress sets in, after stress comes breakdown and everything else falls apart from there. Animals ARE NOT disposable, but if another home can care and be happy then let it be. It will be better for all involved and Bear and family will be happy and at peace with the right decision for them. Yes I adopted my guy and it was right
Good luck with Bear keep us updated please
 

Jlemon

Well-Known Member
Yes we still have Bear. It just came down to we couldn't give him to anyone. He's no worse but he's no better. He doesn't play as much as he wants to and just enjoys laying on the deck in the sun watching the other dogs. Although it's a financial hardship my wife took a voluntary layoff so she can spend more time with him. We thank you all for the kind words and even those that spoke their mind.
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musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Thank you for the update, we've been wondering about you and Bear. Thank you to you and your wife for keeping Bear!
 

angelbears

Well-Known Member
Thank you so much for coming back. I think about bear. I'm truly sorry for your heartache. You are in a no win situation and there will be someone to criticize you no matter what choice you make. I hope you will stick around. I would love to get updates on your handsome boy. Hopefully in some way we can be some support to you.
 

Oak Hill Farm

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Thank you so much for coming back. I think about bear. I'm truly sorry for your heartache. You are in a no win situation and there will be someone to criticize you no matter what choice you make. I hope you will stick around. I would love to get updates on your handsome boy. Hopefully in some way we can be some support to you.

Very gracefully said. Agreed


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