Stud??????

[trulytheone30]

I have a female DDB. I am considering breeding her when she's older! What does it cost to use a Stud? Explain please!!!

 

[fixitlouie]

All depends on the stud. If stud has certs. In my line of work 1000.00 stud fee and 3rd pick of litter...

 

[ruthcatrin]

Health tests for both bitch and stud DDB should include:

Hip Cert from OFA or Pennhipp: OFA cert cost me $600 including Elbows
Elbow Cert from OFA: cost included in Hip cert
Cardiac Cert from OFA: $37 when I did it at a reduce rate via a local club
Shoulder Cert from OFA: not required by my breed, you'll have to check
Eye Cert from OFA or CERF: $37 reduced rate via local club
Thyroid cert from OFA: I've not done this officially but the bloodwork usually costs about $100
Pateller Cert from OFA: not required by my breed you'll have to check

And you should consider testing for vWD.

Plus stud fee (can easily go well over $1000 depending on the breed and stats of the stud).

Plus medical costs for the bitch during pregnancy.

Plus medical costs for pups and bitch after birth and till at least 8 weeks of age.

And thats assuming all goes well. If they end up requiring an artificial insemination that costs more. And a C-section for birthing is frequently an emergency procedure, costing a fortune. Its not unheard of for a bitch to savage the stud during mating, or vis-versa. Or for the pregnancy or birthing to go horribly wrong, all resulting in major medical bills. Never mind if the pups get sick.

And since these guys can have litters of 10 or more you're potentially looking at having to keep 10, or more, puppies if you can't find homes for them. Or having to take back one or more pups when the home you place them in turns out to suck.

 

[ruthcatrin]

And all thats without even considering WHY you're breeding. What is it about your bitch that makes her worth sending on her genes. Conformation title? Working title? Proof of working ability? Therapy cert??

 

[AKBull]

And all thats without even considering WHY you're breeding. What is it about your bitch that makes her worth sending on her genes. Conformation title? Working title? Proof of working ability? Therapy cert??

The least bit to qualify a breeding in my eyes is at least a health cert to go for a "pet quality" home.

 

[ruthcatrin]

Honestly, if you're breeding for a pet home (as in, you're actually trying to produce companion dogs, not just selling a pup from your conformation litter as a pet quality dog), I'd want to see not only the health certs, but also an obedience title and/or a therapy cert. Prove to me that your dog is highly train-able and stable in all sorts of situations.

 

[trulytheone30]

All this helps! Not really sure if I want to breed her yet! She is still a pup. I got her for a pet, but may breed much much later!!!! Just am not aware of ins and outs of it all! I have always been a dog owner but I have always have small breeds. I am aware of costly vet bills! Gesshh! Thanks alot!!

 

[ruthcatrin]

Well, the first question is do you have breeding rights for her? Is she AKC or UKC registered?

If the answers to those is yes, then I'd suggest looking at classes for obedience and/or conformation handling with an eye towards eventually getting her one or both of those championships. Other than that it'd depend on what your goal is for the breeding.

Most of the above health certs can't be done till the dog is at least one, and some not till the dog is two. Hip and elbows may require seeing a specialist, cardiac and eyes WILL require seeing a specialist, for the thyroid your vet can draw the blood but it has to be sent to a specific set of labs. But you'll want to start planning for them, if only by setting aside the money now, the hip/elbow portion requires sedation and xrays and so is expensive unless you get lucky.

Also, right before breeding both the stud and bitch need to be tested for brucellosis, even if they're both virgin. Canine brucellosis is an transmissible STD, it can cause fertility problems, result in dead puppies, and is actually human transmissible (and no, it doesn't require sexual contact with your dog for you to get it).

 

[WalnutCrest]

...and not every CH'd dog/bitch needs or deserves to be bred...

 

[ruthcatrin]

Nope, they don't and shouldn't, but its a direction, for someone who's considering breeding, to work in.

 

[WalnutCrest]

Nope, they don't and shouldn't, but its a direction, for someone who's considering breeding, to work in.

+1

Research pedigrees, understand what is meant by "breed type", and learn how it passes (or doesn't!) from generation to generation so you'll know what to look in any animal you breed to determine whether or not the animal you bred should, in turn, be bred from.

 

[trulytheone30]

Yea, I talked to my vet & we discuss breeding. He told me about the exam and testing, but he never mentioned a dog STD. I am just enjoying her as she grows from my little baby to a giant over night, lol! I just like to educate myself as much as possible to ensure that I do everything the proper way from the start. We had a wiener dog for 8 years before he passed away, so I am not aware female needs and behaviors.
I have read a bunch about STUD and fees. And wondered how it worked!!!!
Thanks for info/tips!!