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This is Mabel

mabel

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Hello, obviously I am new to the forum, my name is Scott and my new pups name is Mabel. I am a 40yr father of 3 boys (14,12,11) and we just picked up our new pup a couple days ago. Mabel is 9 week old Mastiff. She doesn't have papers and didn't come from an expert in breeding. All I can say is both parents looked like pure mastiff to me. I simply couldn't part with the amount of money needed to get a registered puppy. The breeders seemed like really good people and the dogs all looked well adjusted so I bit the bullet and took the chance.

I have always wanted a dog but have never had one. I decided I wanted a Mastiff for a few reasons.

- My health isn't great so I can't be with a dog needing a lot of exercise
- I have a big house and big yard but it isn't fenced so I wanted a dog that could be happy in the house most of the time.
- I don't like small yappy dogs.
- I've always liked big dogs like Rottweilers, Dobermans, Germans, etc... but don't wan't an aggressive dog at all.

After two days so far so good. Mabel was nervous and shy when she first came home but I think that is over. I have crated her the last two nights and no big concerns. House training is going to be a concern because she is kind of sneaky. I can take her outside for quite a while to go and she doesn't always but as soon as I leave her out of my sight for a minute she finds a corner or a room we forgot to shut the door to and boom lol.

She sleeps a lot! When she decides she is tired she simply won't move. I think that is somewhat normal? However when she wakes up after a long nap she is ready to play and then just as quick she is ready to nap again.

I bought a couple chew toys before she got here and she didn't seem to like them, she liked my curtains and couch more. I bought a variety of things today and she seems to be happier with them now. My middle son is trying to teach her "drop it!" and then give her something better. I'd say it's working 50%.

Anyhow I don't want to ramble, just thought I would make a post as I am sure I will be back here looking for advice.
 

Sharrielynne

Well-Known Member
Well good luck with your new baby, you are certainly going to need it, a mastiff, even an easy going one is certainly going to be hard work for you, they still need to be watched if you don't have a fence, and she will still have to have some exercise, different mastiffs have different levels of energy, at 9 weeks puppies still want to sleep a lot so that is fine, however if you want to house train the onus is on you I'm afraid. As soon as she wakes from a sleep (and I mean as soon as, not 5 minutes later) take her outside, tell her pee pee or whatever you feel comfortable with and wait until she goes which will not be long, but wait until she goes! then praise her and take her back in. No 2's wait until she has been fed and then take her out and wait until she goes, it really doesn't matter if you use the same command the dogs seem to work out it is a toilet command.If you don't take the time now, boy will you have problems, a six month old Mastiff can pee lots!!!! Same goes for 1st thing in the morning and last thing at night, she will have accidents at first, she is still a baby and learning.

If you are prepared to be patient and take note of your dogs needs, you will be rewarded with a loving big member of your family. It doesn't matter if she is a cross, there are lots of them around and they prove to be loyal loving pets.

My girl likes the soft plush toys and I think a lot of other mastiffs do as well, just make sure eyes and anything that could be swallowed are taken off.

Mastiff puppies grow really fast and are incredibly clumsy for the most part, so if you have anything breakable, make sure it is moved to a place of safety.

Also, one last thing, you have a girl who is going to come into heat in 9 to 18 months, have you thought what you are going to do with an unfenced yard at that stage? Please do not have her spayed before the age of 2 as there are serious health complications with their growth plates!

Phew! After all that mate welcome to the forum. I hope that if you need any help and advice you will not hesitate to ask. There will always be someone who can give you advice.

Photo's of Mabel would be nice as well!
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Welcome aboard and congrats on your new family member~

The following tips/suggestions are based on my experience as a dog mommy, forum member*s posts and volunteering at an animal shelter for a year.

*CRATE THE PUP

You want to crate train the pup. Make sure you have a blanket, stuffed animal (about their size) and white noise (ticking clock or ipod with soft music) so the pup can sleep. The pup is used to cuddling with siblings.

Make the crate the pup*s happy place to go to when he wants to sleep, decompress or just hang out.

*SECURE THE PUP NEAR THE FAMILY

You want to keep the pup in a room with a family member. Mastiffs need to be near their family members.

*FOOD

Find out what kind of food the shelter/rescue/breeder was feeding the pup and continue to feed it to the pup until you transition to a newer food because most shelters/rescues/breeders use the cheapest food, meaning it is not very good for the pup.

Slow transition to the new food is as follows to prevent diarrhea. If at any time during the transition, the pup has diarrhea return to previous amounts of food per feeding. If you are switching flavors made by the same manufacturer, you should not have to do a slow transition.

Amount per feeding:

Day 1-4 ¾ cup of old food and ¼ cup of new food.

Day 5-9 ½ cup of old food and ½ cup of new food.

Day 10-14 ¾ cup of new food and ¼ cup of old food

Day 15 Start 100% of new food

Generally, mastiffs are allergic to grain and chicken found in kibble. You can check www.dogfoodadvisor.com for dog food ratings and customer feedback. Mastiff puppies should eat Large Breed adult food because puppy food has too much calcium which causes fast growth. Slow and steady growth for a healthy mastiff. Protein in the food is not an issue unless the pup has kidney issues.


Check out Acana Regionals, Wellness Core, Earthborn Holistics, Fromm*s or Taste of the Wild. Chewy.com is a great place to order dog food and they offer free shipping.

You may want to check out the raw diet for your pup. Check out the sub forum on raw diet that has a wealth of information. It is not recommended to feed the pup kibble (one with grains) and raw food. Do your research re: raw diet and form your own opinion.

*PUP NOT EATING WHEN YOU FIRST BRING THEM HOME

They are not used to their new environment and this is a natural behavior. Take the pup to a quiet place at meal times and sit and hand feed the pup. This will help the pup to eat when they are placed in a calm atmosphere, help you to bond with the pup and help the pup establish trust with you. As they become settled, they will naturally follow your routine.

*PROTECT THE PUP FROM DISEASE

Keep the pup in your yard and place newspapers down where they will walk on the ground. Keep the pup away from dog areas unless they have had their 2nd round of shots, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots is best so they will have some immunity to the infectious diseases, i.e. Parvo. This is very important!

*HOUSE TRAINING YOUR PUP

http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/house-training-your-puppy

*SOCIALIZE, SOCIALIZE AND SOCIALIZE SOME MORE

Socialize after they*ve had at least 2 round of shots preferably 3 rounds of shots to be safe. Prior to the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] or 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots, keep the pup in your own yard. If that is not possible, bring newspapers with you for the pup to walk on. Avoid dog parks and areas with a heavy traffic of animals.

Socialization can be the human park while the pup is on leash, riding in the car, sitting at the park or shopping center/mall, etc.

Tell strangers and strangers with pups “no touch, no talk, no look” at your pup as they approach. Bring your pup to sit while they approach. Have your pup approach the strangers and allow the pup to sniff them. Have a calm, controlled meeting. This shows your pup the correct way to greet strangers and other pups.

*TRAINING YOUR PUP

Start basic commands and reward with motivational treats (fav food or fav toy). Train for about 5 minutes per day and slowly increase the training time. Teach one command at a time. Once they master one command, move onto another command.


Number one command is sit. Teach the pup to sit, by placing a treat in front of his head and move it to the back causing him to sit to get the treat. When the pup sits, tell them good sit and give them the treat.

Second command should be "focus/look" This will help you tremendously when the pup is over 100 lbs. Put the pup into sit. With a treat in your hand (let the pup smell it), put the treat up to your eyes and tell the pup to look or focus. They may only do this for about 1-2 seconds. As soon as they look at your eyes, reward them. Generally, mastiffs do not like to look anyone in the eyes for long because that means a challenge to them.

Other commands are "down/off", "leave it," "wait" (short pause), "stay" (pausing until you release), drop it and "quiet/calm".

When you are training and when the pup does not do as you ask, then tell him no in a calm, stern voice and redirect back to the command. The only time a stern and loud NO should be used is when they are doing something that can cause harm to themselves or others.


Praise is the most powerful tool you have and the dog WANTS to please you. Show them clearly what you want, notice and praise when they comply, and learning goes much faster and pleasant for you both.

Mastiffs can be extremely stubborn and if you get frustrated with them, they will shut down and stop listening to you. Mastiffs do not do well with yelling or hitting. Hitting can result in some unwanted mastiff behavior meaning fear aggression, which equals biting.

*LEASH TRAINING

Have the wear the leash around the house to get used to it. Once they are used to the leash around their neck, then you can start the leash training. Have lots of motivational rewards on hand while doing the training. Consistency and patience is key.

If the dog pulls, do not walk until they stop and turn to look at you, then thank them with a motivational reward and start walking again. Tell him it's ok to walk by you start walking. When you have to stop, tell him stop or wait and tell him sit. Titan knows that when we are walking and I say, "wait," he has to stop and sit and wait for me to begin walking again. Requires a lot of consistent training and patience. Do this inside the house and then move to outside.

If they nip at you because they want to play, do the same. Stop, sit and wait. Reward the dog with motivational reward when they do the commands.


*PUPPY BITING/NIPPING/AROUND CHILDREN

Puppies will chew/bite anything they can find unless you re-direct the chewing/biting. Provide frozen washcloths or small towels (make sure the cloths are big enough the pup cannot swallow them), ice cubes with treats frozen in the middle, nylabones, ropes, deer antlers, Kongs with frozen yogurt so they can chew to their heart*s desire. Some people use boxes, be aware that the pup will continue to chew all boxes.

If you puppy is biting/nipping, then try the following. This behavior can sometimes take a lot of patience and consistency in training.

They bite and growl because that is how they played with their siblings.
When they bite, tell them “OW” in a high-pitched voice and “NO” in a stern, calm voice. NEVER HIT OR YELL AT A MASTIFF. Hitting can lead to fear aggression and yelling causes the pup to shut down on you and ignore you.

When the pup stops biting, tell them to sit and re-direct to one of the chew toys.

**Do not allow children and pup on the floor together. Pup will see them as playmates and nip at them. Picture the pup playing with their siblings.

Keep the pup on leash while the children are on the floor so you can have control of the pup. Pup and children should not be allowed to play alone.

Have the children hand fed the pup and help with training, i.e. teach the pup to sit, stay and come. This helps the pup to see them as non-playmates but as people in authority. These activities are great bonding exercises.

*EXERCISE

Puppies can exercise with natural movements and free play like running, stretching, playing on soft surfaces (grass and dirt). This type of exercise is actually healthy and good for their developing bodies but they do need to be able to pace themselves.

Structured exercise/play on hard surfaces and where they don't have they ability to pace themselves is where you need to be very careful. This type of exercise could harm the pup*s joints and bones. Puppies should not do any excessive exercise, i.e. walking, jumping, running and navigate stairs for the first 12 months to avoid injury.

Stairs should be maneuvered while on leash (even in the house) especially going down the stairs. Stairs should have carpet or rubber matting to give the pup traction. Mastiffs should be assisted up and down stairs until they are about age 12 months to prevent injury.

Most mastiffs can be very lazy but they still need to exercise. Generally, the amount of time to exercise is 5 minutes per each month of age.

*YOUR PUP AND HEAT (NOT THE FEMALE HEAT)

Remember, mastiffs do not tolerate heat. In the heat, reduce walk/exercise times. Have clean water available at all times. I freeze towels to either place on Titan or put on the floor for him to lie on in the summer to cool him off. Buy a kiddies* pool for the pup to play in to keep cool.

*DE-SEXING YOUR PUP

Mastiffs should not be neutered/spayed until 18 months to 2 years. NO MATTER what the vet says. Early neutering can cause growth problems and health issues. **Remember, you must be a very responsible dog owner to not neuter your pet to prevent unwanted pregnancies.**


Health Issues Linked to Spaying and Neutering Dogs


Enjoy your baby! Have lots of patience! The pup will reward you with love and loyalty!
 

TricAP

Well-Known Member
Welcome to Mabel and her new family!

We're also first time mastiff parents to Angus who is now 11 weeks (although I've been around dogs my entire life.) You've come to the right place for advice. The people on this forum has so much knowledge and are so great about sharing it! Good luck with you new baby - and I do mean baby. Remember when your human kids were little and everything went into their mouth? Think of Mable is the same way - everything new goes right to the mouth. Depending on his mood Angus likes soft toys and some days its the hard ones for biting and chewing on. For a while it was an empty milk jug with a wine cork inside to make noise. This morning it was a braided toy made from old blue jeans. Last night it was the dodo bird with squeaker (not dead yet) while we were trying to watch a movie.:)
 

Penelope's Mom

Well-Known Member
Welcome aboard. Now that you have a mastiff, you'll never want any other breed. They're amazing. Hope we get to see some pic soon. :)