Mastiff/Wolf Hybrid?

Discussion in 'General Mastiff Discussion' started by DMikeM, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. DMikeM

    DMikeM Active Member

    Not that I would want this but has anyone heard of it? Been thinking ever since my episode with Jade and that wolfdog jumping my fence what would the outcome be like. How would it look, what would the temperment be like (scary I bet). Would they be trainable or just junkyard dogs. If anyone comes accross pictures point us the way.
     
  2. ruthcatrin

    ruthcatrin New Member

    Ugh. I'm thinking hard tempered TM without the guard/protection instinct
     
  3. northernmastiff

    northernmastiff New Member

    Never met one myself but if you google Mastiff Wolf cross, you can see a few pictures so it has been done.

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  4. mastiffico

    mastiffico New Member

    you never know might be the best dogs ever
     
  5. northernmastiff

    northernmastiff New Member

    Could be a great dog but I don't agree with Wolf Hybrids because there is a certain quality in wolves that shouldn't be mixed with dogs. I love wolves. One of my best memories as a kid was spending my day with my neighbour's full wolf (he had found a den when hunting and decided to keep a living trophy as well, real scumbag of a guy but his wolf was wonderful). At one time I had wanted to have a wolf dog but that all changed for me when I stood in front of a captive wolf and looked him in the eyes. They aren't meant to be kept, not sure what it is but they shouldn't be kept in a cage and creating a hybrid is just a different type of cage for the pups. I know you can trace back dogs to wolves but there is something about it that screams wrong to me. Just like Ligers. I know it can be done but why, why is there a need to cross a lion and a tiger. Just seems wrong. :) Probably just a strange tick that I have. LOL.
     
  6. ruthcatrin

    ruthcatrin New Member

    High content wolf dogs can be pretty awesome dogs, as long as you're really prepared to deal with them. And I don't care how much dog experience you have, it takes a certain mindset to own and manage them, without them escaping and driving your neighbors neurotic.....I've got enough primitives experience I probly COULD, but I can honestly say I don't want to.
     
  7. masteneo

    masteneo New Member

    Well , mike it wouldnt be the 1st time you had to hang out with wolves. LOL!:p
     
  8. DMikeM

    DMikeM Active Member

    I really don't have a problem with them at all just when people don't take care of what they are supposed to. I did feel pretty darned bad ass walking a 160LB Wolf/Husky Hybrid down the town sidewalk though, especially being as I was only about 150lb myself. No one messes with a person that has a dog whose head come up to about your chest while he is on all fours or sitting next to you.
     
  9. n_tabatha

    n_tabatha New Member

    That's What My Puppy Is. We Rescued Him. His Mother Was A German Shepherd and Grey Wolf and The Father Was An English Mastiff. He Is 7 Months. Great Dog. Very Smart and Protective. :) In The Picture He Was About 3 Months Old.
     

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  10. DDSK

    DDSK New Member

    I dont want any pet that might maul me or most of the members of my family.
     
  11. TWW

    TWW Well-Known Member

    Know someone who has this combo, it is not you or your family you have to worry about being mauled, as long as your a very good trainer.

    Huge amount of aggression toward new animals and some new people.
    Personally would worry way to much to own if they got out.
     
  12. Catia

    Catia New Member

    I lived next door to a shepherd/wolf mix for years.

    This dog would rip my face off in a heartbeat, & despite a 6ft fence and my yard being tiered 4 ft higher, so at least 10 ft before he could kill me, this pooch tried to get at me every time I walked on that side of the house, & I was always cautious.
    The owners swore if I came in the house & met him I would see how good he was & it might make things better for me when working on that side of the house. I declined, as I had too many close calls with the pooch. He did a wonderful job of guarding that side of my house though!!!!

    I also don't think it's a good mix, something slightly berserk & wild & primal that I feel is unfair to keep as a pet. He was beautiful though.
     
  13. raji

    raji Member

    My first dog, when I was in college, was a wolfhybrid/newfoundland mix-clearly not a planned breeding! He was a really interesting mix of the two breeds and a truly amazing boy. He looked more wolf with the newfy's body. That was hands down, the smartest dog I've ever owned. We had him for nearly 12 years and have stories for days of the things he could and did do! He could open any door, to the point we had to put a slide lock up high on our pantry, he would turn on the tv when we were away, one day I walked next door to visit my neighbor- guess I'd been there too long, because Cody let himself out of our house, walked across the yard and let himself right into her kitchen! I would board him at my vet's, I came back from one vacation and the vet(who lived on property) told me about someone setting off his alarm, which brought him with his shotgun and the armed police inside to find Cody hanging in the employee lounge! He said he'd never had a dog escape before, so after that when he boarded they just let him roam at night! I truly could ramble on with Cody stories forever! He was my heart dog and I had him for nearly 12 years. He was nearly 200 lbs(and that was NOT all muscle-i was young and stupid back then and he loved people food). One negative quality he had was he absolutely hated kids! I can only imagine what a wolf and mastiff mix could be like-but I am thoroughly predjudiced about a would hybrid!
     
  14. HULK101113

    HULK101113 New Member

    I understand some dogs have a stigma about them but I believe that they will act like there owners (master)
     
  15. ruthcatrin

    ruthcatrin New Member

    Urm no, the owners make a difference, but there really is a genetic imprint to certain behaviors and temperments. And if you own a mastiff you'd better get used to that fact quick.
     
  16. DMikeM

    DMikeM Active Member

    The wolf hybrids I have dealt with are different from dogs. Dogs will look you in the eye and either accept it or look away. Wolves and hybrids will either look away or attack you but wont keep the eye to eye contact. Jerking the collar on a Hybrid for correction is a tricky thing. The large male my GF had would stop and then look at you like you were nuts and taking him for a walk seemed to be on his terms not yours. I was the only other person besides her that could walk him or her female, I could even wrestle with and bite them and neither of them ever broke my skin even with a correction from them to me. But being pinned under a 130+lb wolf with his paws on your chest makes you think hard about what got you in that spot in the first place.
    Never think a hybrid is a dog no matter how little the amount of wolf in it. Wolves do not have the thousands of years of domestication that a dog has. This makes me wonder if Kangals are the same as wolves in nature.
     
  17. HULK101113

    HULK101113 New Member

    Ummm iv had 2 mastiffs before now with our 3rd the 2 adult mastiffs we had since pups and had no dramas with aggression but we're not talking about mastiffs here
     
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  18. ruthcatrin

    ruthcatrin New Member

    Then you ought to know better than to make stupid statements like that. A lab is not a mastiff is not a wolf-hybrid. There are behaviors and temperments that are geneticly imprinted and there's only so much an owner CAN do to modify how those are expressed.
     
  19. HULK101113

    HULK101113 New Member

    And obviously I'm not entitled to my own opinion on an open forum?
    Thanks for your input
     
  20. ruthcatrin

    ruthcatrin New Member

    So you're going to tell me the only difference between your mastiff's temperments and a lab's temperment is your fault? Cause by that standard they'd be indentical if you handled them "right".
     

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