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New to Fila's

Hello and greetings from Oklahoma

Although not new to dogs or even large breeds (GSD, Anatolians, Akbash, etc) I am new to Filas. We have a large estate (160 acres) where I raise sport horses, have two beautiful daughters, a husband and a small assortment of critters (other dogs, turkey, cats, etc).

I'll be honest, the Fila was not my first choice but they were in the "short list" and when I happened across someone who had an accidental litter and they lived VERY close to us it seemed like fate had given me a shove. I had done quite a bit of research on all of the breeds, and now since acquiring Samson I've done even more. I've already resigned myself to the fact that despite me taking him everywhere to desensitize him, I will need to pen him when we have legitimate service workers over, people looking to purchase horses, out of state family visiting etc. - and I'm fine with that, it's just taking the good with the bad. But something I can't find and I think I need to ask directly from people who have owned them is....
How will the behavior of our other dogs influence and shape his behavior while he grows? Has anyone else had a diverse dogs environment when they brought in a Fila puppy, and if so, did you notice it's impact?

I have a male Anatolian cross (protective, loves us deeply, aloof to strangers but warms up quickly and can borders on goofy at times), a border collie who is the ruling queen and the kids favorite, and a pit/lab/something cross (we really aren't sure...she's odd), who loves everyone and everything- her tongue is in overdrive as soon as she see's people- she reserves her instinct to kill to only stray dogs. So this is why Samson is here...While each have their own job and are good at it, I'm not sure if any of them would stand ground if someone who wanted to do harm would show up in the middle of the night (especially if they had a gun).

He is by far one of the smartest dogs I've owned. In 2 days time he has learned what "bedtime" means, figured out how to go up and down stairs on his own, navigates a 2400sq house and how to swing around the glass door when we open it to come in (rather than trying to walk through it) and he's only 6 weeks old.

TIA!
Katherine
 

raechiemay

Well-Known Member
I have no experience with Filas other than bits of pieces of info I've read here. I have learned that while they are beautiful dogs, their temperament is not right for my lifestyle. I'm single, nearly 26, in & out all the time, working 2 jobs & don't think a Fila would thrive in my home. I know other Fila savvy people will come on & offer advice. You've come to the right place so welcome! :)

And yes we love pics. Especially puppy pics.
 
Samson Day 3.jpgSamson Day 1.jpgHere are two of him! I will also happily take critiques if others think that he's not a Full Blood... I'd rather know what he is (or could be) so I can better arm myself instead of blindly insist he's something he's not. :) (been there...done that...still have the bruise to show it)
 

raechiemay

Well-Known Member
Did you see the parents? My first thought when I looked at the 2nd pic was Cane Corso. Although it's kinda hard for me to tell & I'm not good at playing the breed guessing game lol. I would think if he was full Fila his head would appear to be a little more "droopy" if that makes sense.
 

AKBull

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Staff member
Welcome to the board!

I'm no Fila expert, but I don't see much Fila in there, if any? Cute pup nonetheless!
 

Amanda F.

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Welcome! I don't know much about fila's except for little bits here and there on this forum. My first thought was also corso.
 

m0rg4n

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Mira always looks more Cane Corso to me in spite of being EM/Newf/Fila, and when she was a pup everyone thought she was a lab. I think it's always hard to tell at that age.
 

chuckorlando

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Could we get some better pics. Dont see a lot of fila in there but I could be wrong. Fila's tend to be more houndy looking.

Are you worried the other dogs may make a fila softer? If so, a real fila aint gonna change what it is regardless of how other dogs act. If it's raised with the animals it will probly be fine with them. Kona would need some special intraductions to bring a new animal in the house though.
 
LOL...I love playing the guessing game! And I've already had people tell me he's a lab too, glad to know I'm in good company! I learned awhile ago that unsolicited advice should be politely acknowledged and then to change the subject. :eek:)

He doesn't have the pronounced "hound droop" that I've seen in pictures on the web, but then again pictures I saw of his sire and dam didn't show excessive droopiness in their ears, flews and skin either. His sire was from the "do Camping" lines - I'm interested to hear pro's and con's!

I'm actually not worried about the other dogs making him soft, it's more of a "what should I expect". My Anatolian was very uninfluenced by my other dogs, which is good because my border collie is a nut who loves to chase the horses when I work them and I didn't need two of those, but I wasn't sure about this breed since I hear mixed reviews on "prey drive" vs. "guarding".

I'll get more pictures, I seem to take a few dozen a day.
 

chuckorlando

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Well they all guard. Kona will kill anything comes in the yard. She's fine with our other dogs. But she has to show whos the boss alot. Like barking right in their face. She's a real bitvh. ahahahaha
 

dogman#1

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Piatt, I have known quite a few Filas, bred a few, visited breeders in Brazil, been to Fila only shows and I did not see a fila when I saw that pic of your dog... I thought cane Corso as well, sorry.

BTW this has nothing to do with the color of the fur that as we know is a mixed bred trait under the CAFIB standard and fine with the FCI standard. The head is wrong, snout is shorter than the skull, expression is wrong, ear insertion is incorrect, the dog has a square figure, lack of sufficient skin, tail insertion seems high... it can be the pictures but it doesn't even remind me of a fila, I wouldn't even say mixed with a fila, I think it is a completely different breed.

Now, I do love the look of the lil pup whatever he is. Great bone and looks really healthy. I love his eye separation which always gives them a look of inteligence IMO. very cool lil pup, he looks like he is gonna be a pain in the arse, lol. Good luck with him.
 

Tiger12490

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Ye u also thought CC when I saw the little guy could we see more pics could really tell us something

Tapd on my skyrocket
 
Dogman, THANK YOU! I've been following your posts since you seemed to have extensive knowledge of the breed. Ironically the breed I had chosen was CC, (Brimstones Cane Corsos), a friend of mine has two she purchased and adores them. I wasn't sure if it was wishful puppy hoping that made me question him or if he was just an odd looking Fila.
Question- he doesn't seem to like any normal toys. balls, ropes, rubber squeeky toys, fuzzy toys, etc. My daughters teddy bear? Loves. The string to the blinds, adores (which I'm breaking him of because it won't be funny when it crashes to the floor). Ditto for chew bones. Every puppy I've ever had loves pig ears. Not him.

I've had dozens of dogs in my life and although each is different I've never had such a finicky pup.

On an up note- he slept through the night without a peep and only left me one pee spot!
 

raechiemay

Well-Known Member
Try getting a kong for his size, filling it full of no flavor yogurt & freezing it overnight. Might get his interest going & keep him busy for a while. Sometimes I'll put a spoonful of peanut butter in D's kong & push it towards the middle. Keeps her busy for about an hour, maybe 2 trying to lick all of the pb out.
 

ravendarat

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You can always get one of those genetic testing kits to see what your dog is. I dont know about down there but I know up here in Canada the kits go for about 60 bucks. I am not sure how accurate they are but might be worth a shot.